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Old 04-12-2009, 10:13 PM
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H22 vs other honda engines

Ok i know very little about engines but i've always wondered why every civic owner seems to think that the B16 engine is like god on wheels.

i have had a couple friends with civics over the years, and know tons more people who have them. the most common engine swaps they seem to do are B16 (DOHC 1.6 liter vtec i belive if i got the name right) out of civic Si's or B18 (1.8 litre version of above?) out of the integras... i could be completely wrong about these engines, i don't reallly care about anything but my H22 but i am curious as to why people would pick these to swap in over an H22 which is a 2.2 litre DOHC vtec engine, rated 200 (or 195) at the crank? are they that much lighter? take boost better? nobody who actually wants to do the swap can seem to give me actuall factual data, they just rant about how they are the best and i just wouldn't understand.... of course last time i checked my friend's almost stock lude was beating stock Si Civics at the track, but i dunno.... so somebody enlighten me here please
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

I believe on of the main reasons the B16 and B18 swaps are so popular are because there are more of them out there and because it's easier to do than the H22.
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

Not 100% on this, but I the reason they do B16/18 over H22 is cause it's cheaper, lighter, smaller, safer to boost, etc... K series are more powerful but more expensive. There's alot of guys on here that know WAAAY more than me so let's wait see what they have to say.

I beat a friend of mine who had a na b16 on the highway with my auto lude, but had it been at the track I know he would have smoked me. I met some guy at the track this weekend with an H22 in a civic and he normally ran low 14's. Said his best time (ACCORDING TO HIM) was high 13's.
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

Well here lets start off with the biggest arguements for these...

B16- Light. Very light. Decent hp, High rev limit, decent for boost. Cheap as hell. Really. If you can find a B16b its 185 horsepower and 9200 rev limit.

B18- Light. Cheap. Great hp gain(b18c5 is 195 ponies same as h22), Rev limit is 8900. More torque than b16 but not an h22. Very popular for high hp builds. Great building blocks.

Both of those, the JDM ones come with LSD Transmissions. And I believe so does the GSR here in america (b18c5)

H22- Heavy. And decently expensive. High overall power output. A lot of Torque. Great for doing track runs. Did I mention heavy?


You can get some more info here. First one is for the B series (Just scroll down and look through the b16 and b18 things) And the second link is for the h22.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_h_engine
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

there is a whole bunch of reasons. the b18/b16 are light high reving non-frm cylinder sleeve(h22 does have those sleeves). safer for boosting. thebig reason is price and that they are so popular that they have a huge aftermarket support (which is prolly the reason your friends think its better). one thing though the h22 swap is a huge for civics and it is getting more and more light and more people are swapping them in cause they are finding out how easy the h22 makes power.
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

j-series swap FTW!
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

depends what you really want out of the car. h22 makes good drag engine in a civic.but if ur like me and like cornering b18c feels just right...dont get me wrong if you set up ur suspension right h22 wont feel that bad but u can feel the difference..
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

As a person who has owned a Civic & Integra, i have to say that the b18c is a siick motor.

The b16a is overrated once you've driven a h22. Then again, what am i saying? i drive a K series now lawl

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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

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j-series swap FTW!
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easily can get over 270hp
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

They are just jealous of our big blocks



I'm just leaving it at that... I have a headache and don't want to fry my brain trying to explain all this in detail... the basics have been said anyway.

The B-Series engines just have a lot more options. Have been done a lot more and any Idiot can throw one together now really.... no offense to anyone that has one cause I'm sure I eventually will again for a daily but it's the truth.

An H22 is just a pain to put into a Civic or Integra... a lot more expensive and some custom work.
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

Some guy on preludepower.com is putting a type-r (B18C) into a 3rd gen prelude...Looks pretty sick.
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Some guy on preludepower.com is putting a type-r (B18C) into a 3rd gen prelude...Looks pretty sick.
Thats a perfect example of easy way out since the 3rd gens come with b-series engines
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

No it's not since the B20A as fitted to the Prelude isn't interchangeble with any other B-series engine.
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haha sorry i should have made the sarcasm a little thicker.
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

thanks for all the input everybody, this site rocks
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Re: H22 vs other honda engines

cuz it not all about hp. B16 are cheap as hell, rev high and not to much less hp then a h22 but really it comes down to price and how ez it is to do.
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