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APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

Welll i own an prelude 5th gen and rescently installed the afc neo my friend gave me and it claims to add an automatic 7-10HP but also says that if tuned just properly can add up to 20!

I also have the manuall but its all way confusing.

If you know much about this product just chat about it...the tuning option is all about the air flow to fuel ratio and vtech (when to kick in) pretty interesting. but if you recomend a tune or have an questions or comments lets talk about it.
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

im dieing in my seat right now......im going to order 30 of these...

no seriously, when someone gives you something RESEARCH it before you install it.

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"A'PEXi introduces the first digital fuel computer that combines fuel computer functions with a VTEC engagement controller.

The V-AFC features a user-definable, eight-point, adjustable fuel curve that can be set in 500 RPM increments. The range of fuel adjustment is +/- 50% at each of the user-defined setting points.

The Fuel Adjustment function considers wide/narrow throttle and low/high camshaft settings, from which four different fuel maps are created (wide-low, wide-high, narrow-low, narrow-high).

The integrated VTEC Controller adjusts the point at which the engine switches from the Lo to Hi cam during acceleration, as well as when the engine switches from the Hi to Lo cam during deceleration."
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

yeah i have the apexi VAFC I, but i'm waiting to install it and tune it at the sametime, you said your friend gave it to you so im assuming its been tuned to HIS MOTOR AND HIS MODS.

I would recomend holding off on the install till you can get it properly tuned on the dyno by someone who knows what their are doing.

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edit: whats the chip? that your refering to?
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

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im dieing in my seat right now......im going to order 30 of these...

no seriously, when someone gives you something RESEARCH it before you install it.
I did do research on it...says its safe to install with no tune whats so ever and with that it makes the air/fuel ration more efficient add a few horsepower. i have yet to mess with tuning it thats why i am gathering more info before i do that
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

yea im actually running on them as we speak mods i have are an unknown intake, exhaust, pulley, NGK plat & Wires, and so far it was tuned by Jotech with those minor mods and im pushing 157.3 right now
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

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yea im actually running on them as we speak mods i have are an unknown intake, exhaust, pulley, NGK plat & Wires, and so far it was tuned by Jotech with those minor mods and im pushing 157.3 right now
I have 2000 prelude BASE h22 with short ram intake, aem pulleys, dc sport heads apexi exhaust, apexi afc neo, and new wires and plugs coming soon. Hopefully hitting 230+ HP:)
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

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I have 2000 prelude BASE h22 with short ram intake, aem pulleys, dc sport heads apexi exhaust, apexi afc neo, and new wires and plugs coming soon. Hopefully hitting 230+ HP:)
lol sorry im not trying to be a dick but your not going to hit that mark.

edit: nvm, i thought you where talking about WHP but even for BHP thats a little high.
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

it doesnt really matter what car the afc neo is tuned to. (when i installed my greddy ecu it was tuned to a 200sx turbo touring but still my engine started and ran perfectly but ran better once it was tuned).all that matters is once you have the afc noe wired up that you get it properly tuned to your car..and chances are you will make no more than 3-5 hp from it and if tuned correctly, have better throttle response, change ur vtec shiftpoint and have better fuel economy.
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

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lol sorry im not trying to be a dick but your not going to hit that mark.

edit: nvm, i thought you where talking about WHP but even for BHP thats a little high.
thats just my estimate i have never looked into dyno but i live near one in cincy. But im sure i will be close to 230 at 8000 RPMS.....
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thats just my estimate i have never looked into dyno but i live near one in cincy. But im sure i will be close to 230 at 8000 RPMS.....
no chance..
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

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no chance..
Reallly? H22 is registered at like 200 hp at 7600...
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

yes 200hp at the flywheel not the wheel..at the wheels you will get about 150 -170 hp depending on the condition of ur engine..with the mods you have i doubt very much you will even touch 200hp at the wheels..actually im certain of it..
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

so if i dyno what would you guess my hp around?
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

even with auto or stick stock they says 30% is taken away from both 200hp engine so when i had my car stock it was pushing 131.7 but with minor mods and the Neo im pushing 157.5 for an auto i noe i noe manual all the way lol
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

with your current mods?? im guessing about 205hp (at the flywheel) and a few extra lbs ft tq.. provided u change ur vtec shiftpoint correctly..bearing in mind this is also taking into account the type of fuel that you use. high octane fuel can give an extra couple hp. but dont be dissapointed if you dont get any gain at all..the main reason for an afc neo or greddy emanage is to increase throttle response and valve / ignition timing as well as correcting detonation..so overall your car will feel more responsive and get better gas mileage if done properly..until you get into the nitty gritty of tuning such as upgrading valve trains or going forced induction then the e manage can help you squeeze that little bit extra out of your mods without damaging your engine and to stop ur fuel mixture from becoming too rich or too lean by adjusting your a/f ratio...

adjusting the vtec shiftpoint should only be done if better gains can be made by lowering the shiftpoint..but this requires some trial and error by the mechanic thats tuning ur car
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Re: APEXI AFC NEO! ?(Chip)?

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with your current mods?? im guessing about 205hp (at the flywheel) and a few extra lbs ft tq.. provided u change ur vtec shiftpoint correctly..bearing in mind this is also taking into account the type of fuel that you use. high octane fuel can give an extra couple hp. but dont be dissapointed if you dont get any gain at all..the main reason for an afc neo or greddy emanage is to increase throttle response and valve / ignition timing as well as correcting detonation..so overall your car will feel more responsive and get better gas mileage if done properly..until you get into the nitty gritty of tuning such as upgrading valve trains or going forced induction then the e manage can help you squeeze that little bit extra out of your mods without damaging your engine and to stop ur fuel mixture from becoming too rich or too lean by adjusting your a/f ratio...

adjusting the vtec shiftpoint should only be done if better gains can be made by lowering the shiftpoint..but this requires some trial and error by the mechanic thats tuning ur car

Oh oh alright i got you and yes all i feed my car is shell v power..you know shell is going to start putting nitrogen in there gas...just heard my dad say something about it....he owns a few shell stations.
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