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So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

So I was just looking online at parts and stuff and i came across H22 superchargers. So Is a turbo easier, cheaper, better for the engine than a supercharger, or is the other way around? Also, can you use stock internals with a supercharger?
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

What is turbo? What is a super charger?


since you have a 4th gen, just abandon all hopes right now about SC'ing. its not happening.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

what makes you say that, is it impossible. Trust me it will take a year to save for that. I already have to get a h22.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

clearance issues with the firewall, cutting into the shock tower, brake booster getting in the way, needing a custom made SC bracket made by some dude who hasn't been seen/heard from for 5+ years.......
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that makes alotta sense.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

well its not like can't be done then just good luck with that build lol
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

do it....i want to see how it goes.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

It can be done, but like someone said, you have to rape/dismember the firewall and a bunch of other ****. But personally, if I had the time/skills to do fab work and ****, I would love to listen to my SC prelude every day. It's up to you man. If you decide on staying N/A, still not a bad choice. it's what I'm doin. :D H22's are fun.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

supercharge>All motor or turbo
supercharger or all motor>Turbo

supercharge it or keep it all motor or GTFO =] I really think there are to many people turbo'n there cars now.There is never anyone going all motor or supercharging just because everyone wants to have 400+ hp that they never use or will use.Most likely dont need to have in the most part.So my opinion would be supercharger but it prob wont happen so all motor.Cams,gear,valve train,maybe a nice P&P
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

it's not about haveing 400+hp it's about the $$$$$. Wouldn't u want the most bang for ur buck?
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

No sir the most you will get will always be turbo exactly why everyone does it and reason for why I think its overrrated.how about instead power spend a bunch of money in suspension\handling\etc or all visual one of the other two things commonly overlook.Mainly suspension.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

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visual one of the other two things commonly overlook.Mainly suspension.
I'm sorry I cannot agree with you at all except for the over looked suspension.

Turbo fortunately has been created to do what??? MAKE MORE POWER FOR LESS MONEY.

A supercharger is great, but what a lot of people fail to recognize is that TORQUE on a FWD car is like putting wings on an elephant. Its pointless.

Torque is a great thing to have. Super low end torque (supercharger systems) is an enemy of FWD vehicles (hence why I would never buy an SS Cobalt)

If you want the power, and dont want to spend bookoo dollars on NA or supercharged applications a turbo is the most reasonable upgrade. Why spend extra money on somethin that you spend nearly half as much, and have more performance for your dollar?

Turbo. all the way.

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Just take a look around. The fast FWD drag cars are turbo'd not S/C'd.

The RWD Monsters are mostly S/C. With a few exceptions for Supra, 300zx, etc etc.
Look around. Notice that most S2000's are S/C'd??? And RWD?? coincidence?????? I think not ...
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

Agreed with Smokey...to a point.

He's right, huge amounts of torque in a FWD isn't an incredibly great thing, but personally, I'd rather have all the torque there, and as a result learn to drive it like that than to have a big turbo spool up. Exmple story coming:

A mate's older brother, bought himself a N12 Pulsar ET Turbo. Google image it if they didn't come over there. Essentially one of the hot hatches of the mid-late 80s that tried to cash in on the "turbo craze". First weekend he had it, he understeered into not one, but four different gutters, because the turbo would spool up mid corner (and in one of those full boost wasn't very high, 3500rpm or something) and because he wasn't used to it, it caught him off guard every time. I'm sure that someone with a bit more inteligence would be able to get around this, (he was/is a bit of a dumbarse) but it always sticks in my mind.


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since you have a 4th gen, just abandon all hopes right now about SC'ing. its not happening.
There was a bloke on PO.com who had a JRSC on his JDM 4g SiR. Forget who it was though...
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Still I got tired of turbos quick.Its fun every once in awhile >>>IMO!!<<<but id rather have the torque and the sc sound.May be pointless but its still fun and very nice sounding.BUTTTT if its hard to swap a sc in a 4th gen then id do mad suspension. ST F&R Sway bars,Neuspeed upper strut bar,Explicit Rear 4 point rear Strut bar,Tanabe F&R Lower Tie's,Tein Coilover\suspension setup,Megan racing or some other control arms I dont know how many are made for 4th gens,some nice forged rims and good falken tires.
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There was a bloke on PO.com who had a JRSC on his JDM 4g SiR. Forget who it was though...
its easier on the JDM cars cuz they're brake booster is on the RH side, making more room for the pulleys/belts

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Still I got tired of turbos quick.Its fun every once in awhile >>>IMO!!<<<but id rather have the torque and the sc sound.May be pointless but its still fun and very nice sounding.BUTTTT if its hard to swap a sc in a 4th gen then id do mad suspension. ST F&R Sway bars,Neuspeed upper strut bar,Explicit Rear 4 point rear Strut bar,Tanabe F&R Lower Tie's,Tein Coilover\suspension setup,Megan racing or some other control arms I dont know how many are made for 4th gens,some nice forged rims and good falken tires.

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You're going to spin whether you go turbo or supercharger.
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

Of course, but relatively speaking its easier to keep traction going turbo. Neck (twokexlv6coupe) of course is different like always and is putting out a good amount of Tq. and I think he said he reaches peak boost at 3500 rpms ... which is nuts.

The bigger debate really here is ... what is more reasonable? He is looking for price, and ease of installation/maintaining, and Power.
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Did you ever supercharge your Lude? I'm from Mi too and that would be awesome to see
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Re: So what better Turbo or Supercharger?

yep all depends on personal preferences...

ive never modded my car, only maintenance, but if I were to want more power id go with SC or all motor...for the reasons other posters have already mentioned.

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