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Old 09-07-2006, 12:49 AM
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ECU Discussion

We have been having members on here with a lot of ecu issues so I thought I would start a discussion on it.

Note: anything that is not on topic will be deleted in this thread.

I'll start off with some basics

92-96 Preludes have a P13 ecu. Both in The U.S. and Japan.
97-01 Preludes have a P5P ecu. Both in the U.S. and Japan.

h22a OBDI ecu is a P13 ecu
h22a OBDII ecus are P5P and P5S (if I remember correctly the P5S ecu is from the H23 EUDM obd2 accord and the prelude type s).


The Prelude SI that have H23 in them have a P14 ECU; and cannot be used with a vtec engine. So if you have a prelude SI and you've done or planning a h22 swap you need to get the p13 ecu. The P14 will not work.


Now for other options. There are some of you (most if not all) that when you do an engine swap you want to get the best bang for your buck with ecus. There are other choices you can consider aswell.

If you have a H22 you can choose from :
P72,P28,P30,P61,P08J,P30J,P72J,p06

If you have a h23 none vtec you can choose from:
P74,P75,P06,PR4,P72,P28,P30,P61,P08J,P30J,P72J

NOTE: These ecus must be chipped with a H22 map in order to work properly with the h22 or h23 ecus. They have way different maps and timing on these ecus are drastically different as well. So running them unchipped is not a good idea.


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PS. I would love to have the infomation on the second and third gen ecu's aswell.
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Just to add:

You can use a P14 ECU with a JDM F22B, but you'll need to install a knock sensor, and you'll run a little rich. Also, you can run an H22 with a P14, but you won't have VTEC, so it's not a good idea unless you really need to
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i have a p14 and a p13 harness problem with my p13 is that its cut from the firewall so what i wanted to do was use my p14 harness and wire the vtec in myself but the p14 harness has a lot more sensors than my p13 so im phukt =/
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I so forgot about this thread. Flavah you still need help wiring vtec?
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Does ATTS get turned off when you switch ECU's?
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if you're not using the sh ecu then yes it will turn off.
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So switching to a p72 or p28 it would shut off?
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Ya I have a similar question. I have an 01 SH and have a VAFC right now which rely limits my tuning capability's. Say I am decently modified and want a rely good tune but dont want to go hondata cuz it disables my ATTS. Basically what I am asking is what exactly should I do for the best tune without disabling ATTS. I am decently modified and staying N/A.
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VAFC, AFC Neo or Emanage would do the trick.
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I have a VAFC now do these other products offer for more "tunability" than it. My knowledge of tuning is pretty limited to any input on this subject would help.
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I have a VAFC now do these other products offer for more "tunability" than it. My knowledge of tuning is pretty limited to any input on this subject would help.
I'd suggest keeping the vafc. To me it doesn't make sense to change to another one that does basically the same thing...
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add the p06 to the list of ecu's. It is a p28 board, minus the vtec components. you can convert it to vtec.
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So I am pretty much screwed when it comes to tuning?
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yes basically lol... believe or not your the first sh owner who has ever posted it like that so far lol.
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^^^^^e-manage is a pain in the ass and doesnt work right for me.
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Yeah man, short of the OBD-I w/ tuning soft/hardware... you might as well stick with VAFC... E-Manage is too damn expensive for me to justify buying it for myself at least. (I'm in your boat as well, with a Type SH... I'm not going back to OBD-I until I am ready to Delete my ATTS, or until I'm ready to swap a base motor/tranny in)
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Yeah man, short of the OBD-I w/ tuning soft/hardware... you might as well stick with VAFC... E-Manage is too damn expensive for me to justify buying it for myself at least. (I'm in your boat as well, with a Type SH... I'm not going back to OBD-I until I am ready to Delete my ATTS, or until I'm ready to swap a base motor/tranny in)
think of it as a long term investment...it will come in useful if you decide to do other mods like boost and nos in the future
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think of it as a long term investment...it will come in useful if you decide to do other mods like boost and nos in the future
Yeah... but I loose my ATTS function (without loosing the ATTS's weight) in the meantime, and to be honest with you, I have no need to do an OBD-I tune until I do extensive modification... It doesn't justify me loosing my ATTS and it's complete overkill for the I/H/E that I'll be running between now and when I'm ready to build my motor.

Same with the E-manage... I'm not spending that kind of money to tune for I/H/E.
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hey guys... i"m running obd 1 p28 chipped on my prelude.. would going with an aem ecu be the best idea, becuase my turbo feels like its breaking up, not catching.
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So E-manage doesnt delete ATTS and allows for quite a bit of tunability. I am pretty far past the I/H/E mods so do you think it would be a good investment?
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The blue box.. yeah sure, it's just like a vafc. the black box (ultimate), I wouldn't get that. Too many horror stories about that one.
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