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Possible 5th gen turbo build

So lately ive been thinking I want to go turbo. Yes I have read the "so you want to go turbo" thread. After shopping around i have a small list together. I just want to post it hear to see if im missing anything/ should go with different parts. I was hoping to make about 600whp.

So I found a kit....here and it looks to contain a majority of the parts needed.

I plan to sleeve the block of course with "Darton Flanged Dry Sleeves"

"ARP Head Studs"
"JE 9.0:1 Pistions"
"Eagle Rods"
"Clevite Bearings"
"1000cc Injectors"
"Wharlbro 255l fuel pump"
"Hondata s300"

Now I had a few questions. One do i need to do anyhead work? Im thinking yes. Two same for the crank, thinking yes as well.

So anything missing? Thanks guys.
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Re: Possible 5th gen turbo build

headwork wouldnt be required, but cams/retainers/springs would definately net more power.
the stock crank is extremely strong from the factory. i believe they can take atleast 700hp, if not more.
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Re: Possible 5th gen turbo build

List looks good, that phearable kit looks legit, had no idea they started selling entire turbo kits. But don't be surprised if you gotta ditch both AC and PS due to that manifold.


Headwork isn't necessary. Yes it'll net more hp (if all the headwork components are paired properly to each other) and it'll allow you to rev higher/make more power higher, but the head isn't the weak point on H motors.
But hell, you're already talking about a 10K build, whats another ~4K??
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List looks good, that phearable kit looks legit, had no idea they started selling entire turbo kits. But don't be surprised if you gotta ditch both AC and PS due to that manifold.


Headwork isn't necessary. Yes it'll net more hp (if all the headwork components are paired properly to each other) and it'll allow you to rev higher/make more power higher, but the head isn't the weak point on H motors.
But hell, you're already talking about a 10K build, whats another ~4K??
By my calculations its around 6k, plus whatever it is for the axels that SoFla recommended, not sure on good brands for those though. Oh add about 1500 for shop work.
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Re: Possible 5th gen turbo build

You could also buy eBay kit for piping, intercooler, manifold, and upgrade turbo, bov, and wg separately. Could be cheaper
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By my calculations its around 6k, plus whatever it is for the axels that SoFla recommended, not sure on good brands for those though. Oh add about 1500 for shop work.

Not to burst your bubble, but you need to keep shopping.

What about; intake, exhaust, ECU, tuning, radiator/fans, t-stat, hoses, oil/water pumps, tensioners, gauges, seal and gasket kit, clutch and flywheel.... need me to keep going?!




And 1500 for shop work?!
I paid 1100 for bore/hone, deck, and align hone. That's me doing the ENTIRE short block assembly myself. I'm assuming your not doing that.
Average cost of sleeving a block alone is 1K.










Like I said, easily 10K.
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Not to burst your bubble, but you need to keep shopping.

What about; intake, exhaust, ECU, tuning, radiator/fans, t-stat, hoses, oil/water pumps, tensioners, gauges, seal and gasket kit, clutch and flywheel.... need me to keep going?!

And 1500 for shop work?!
I paid 1100 for bore/hone, deck, and align hone. That's me doing the ENTIRE short block assembly myself. I'm assuming your not doing that.
Average cost of sleeving a block alone is 1K.

Like I said, easily 10K.
lol the reality smack speech.... gets me everytime ..... F*CK IT... LETS DO THIS!
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lol the reality smack speech.... gets me everytime ..... F*CK IT... LETS DO THIS!

We all do stupid (read; EXPENSIVE) stuff when we financially shouldn't.


Like me turbo'ing my car while I was in college, leaving me $200 in my bank account, than my engine blew up
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We all do stupid (read; EXPENSIVE) stuff when we financially shouldn't.


Like me turbo'ing my car while I was in college, leaving me $200 in my bank account, than my engine blew up
hahaha I think the majority of us are in that same boat!.... well more like a john boat because we can't afford anything better due to the constant spending on the car lol.... anyway all i can say is best of luck with the build man!
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Not to burst your bubble, but you need to keep shopping.

Like I said, easily 10K.
Id be also concern about suspension and brake parts, you definetly need powerful brake kit and sway/traction bars and so on that you get the power to ground as well.

aftermarket differential(s) also costs something like 900$
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Id be also concern about suspension and brake parts, you definetly need powerful brake kit and sway/traction bars and so on that you get the power to ground as well.

aftermarket differential(s) also costs something like 900$


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Not to burst your bubble, but you need to keep shopping.

What about; intake, exhaust, ECU, tuning, radiator/fans, t-stat, hoses, oil/water pumps, tensioners, gauges, seal and gasket kit, clutch and flywheel.... need me to keep going?!




And 1500 for shop work?!
I paid 1100 for bore/hone, deck, and align hone. That's me doing the ENTIRE short block assembly myself. I'm assuming your not doing that.
Average cost of sleeving a block alone is 1K.










Like I said, easily 10K.

Intake: k&n on the turbo

Exhaust: dump tube out of the side of the fender

Ecu: hondata s300

Like I said in my op that the list is what I have found so far but I knew I was missing things.
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Id get a more powerful pump than the 255. Id also run bigger than 1000 but thats just me. May need to run a bigger feed and return line too.
yeah agreed depending on your power and fromt he sound of this whole thread it seems as if you want to achieve over 600whp... well at 20-25psi on a medium size turbo a test was conducted. and the walbro 255lph fuel pump started to not keep up aaround 600whp the best was an external in line pump they tested... but the best all around that i noticed for cars in the 600-800whp range will be the aeromotive stealth fuel pump!

ill search for the charts to back up whatg i just said in a bit i just cant remember at all where i saw this.

EDIT: found it purty quick actually heres the flow chart test for all commonly bought fuel pumps for our hondas!

http://realstreetperformance.com/sto...on-test-5.html
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Re: Possible 5th gen turbo build

remember that we're talking about FWD so why do you need 600hp? its not fast if all what the front wheels can do is just burn rubber!
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remember that we're talking about FWD so why do you need 600hp? its not fast if all what the front wheels can do is just burn rubber!

don'cha know, tire smoke gets all the b!tches!
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Well lets go with a mark of 400whp, still need a bigger fuel pump than the wharlbro 255, and will I need new axles?
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Here's my best friend's parts list. The block is capable of holding 800hp, but the turbo and intercooler he has restricts him to a little under 500;

Laskey Racing short block
- Benson sleeved block
- Benson balanced and micropolished crank
- CP pistons and rings
- Pauter
- ACL Bearings
- OEM (TypeR) oil pump
- Lower gasket set
- Blueprint and assembly
also OEM timing belt, tensioner, and water pump.
moroso steel oil pan.
Laskey Racing stage 3 head
- PortFlow port & polish, SuperTech Stainless Steel nitride coated intake valves, Incanal(sp.) exhaust valves dual valve springs, titanium retainers, competition 3 angle valve job, surfaced to a mirror like finish and assembly

Full Race ProAm traction bar
T1 Race development catch can
Taylor battery relocation kit
yellow top optima battery
AEM fuel rail
carbon lined 1-5 synchro kit from mfactory
4.05 final drive from mfactory
helical LSD from mfactory
Skunk2 tuner 1 cams
ACT 12.5lb flywheel
ARP head studs
ATI super dampner
competition Stage 5 clutch with upgraded pressure plate
Walbaro 255 fuel pump
aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
Precision 1000cc injectors with clips
BDL cam gears
BDL 70mm throttle body
Edelbrock vickerx intake manifold
BDL cam seal
Greddy Full auto turbo timer
PWR half size radiator

AFI Street turbo kit
-AFI Tubular 304 ss Ramhorn manifold
- AFI 3" 304 ss down pipe with stainless braided flex and O2 bung
- AFI DIY dump tube kit
- AFI/Garrett 26X6.5X3.5 Back door intercooler
- AFI 2.5" mandrel bent and bead rolled black texture powder coated charge piping
- Garrett T3/TO4E Turbocharger- .57 trim
- Tial 38mm Waste gate
- Tial 50mm Blow Off Valve
- PWR 4 ply silicone couplers
- AFI Braided Stainless Teflon oil line kit
- T-Bolt clamps
- Billet fittings and turbo oil drain kit
- All Misc. Hardware and Gaskets
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Oh yeah, and he's about $16K deep into it, considering tuning and dyno time as well.
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Oh yeah, and he's about $16K deep into it, considering tuning and dyno time as well.
Damn thanks man!! This really helps! I'll have to look at it closer tomorrow when I have more time.
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Re: Possible 5th gen turbo build

this would be one of those things not to cheap out on, if you decide to cheap out on it, then, just buy the turbo psssst soundboxes as shown on mightycarmods on youtube lol...

that will get you plenty of girls
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this would be one of those things not to cheap out on, if you decide to cheap out on it, then, just buy the turbo psssst soundboxes as shown on mightycarmods on youtube lol...

that will get you plenty of girls
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lol all im saying is dont cheap out
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I have a 2000 Honda Prelude h22a4 I'm young to the Honda family done a lil research. Now any suggestions of a good solid daily driven turbo build setting?
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We all do stupid (read; EXPENSIVE) stuff when we financially shouldn't.


Like me turbo'ing my car while I was in college, leaving me $200 in my bank account, than my engine blew up
I did this ^^^^^^^^^
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glad i wasn't the only one hahhahaa
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glad i wasn't the only one hahhahaa
Yup, I was broke as hell. And had to pay for school with no financial aid left lmao
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Id be also concern about suspension and brake parts, you definetly need powerful brake kit and sway/traction bars and so on that you get the power to ground as well.

aftermarket differential(s) also costs something like 900$
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