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Turbo Parts list

So I'm trying to come up with a list of what I'll need. I'm creating an excel to just input the items, what I've bought, what I need to find, and their prices.

Goals: just around 250 whp. Stock h23a1. with around 140k miles.
Here's what I have so far, keep in mind it's all on stock internals:

F1 stage 2 clutch, 11lb flywheel-bought
RC 440cc or 550cc injectors - missing
TiAL 38 mm wastegate-missing
Walbro 255lph fuel pump-missing
BOV -TBD
Turbo charger- attached is the one I want, but it's subject to change. any thoughts?
IC&Piping by go-autoworks.com - missing
Downpipe go-autoworks.com -missing
Dumptube (Suggestions?) -missing
Oil Feed Line fast-turbos.com - missing
Log manifold (suggestions?) - missing

Anything else I'm missing? I heard of a catch can but I'm not sure exactly what that is. Or it's purpose.

Any input is appreciated.
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-SOME SORT OF TUNING!!!!

-gauges - not necessary but extremely handy. and a pod.
-random gaskets/nuts/bolts
-vacuum tubing
-boost controller
-intake (again, not necessary. i never ran one)



all i can think of off the top of my head
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Re: Turbo Parts list

yes, I had things that I was going to get, but didn't put them up lmao.

Tuning-
Gauges-
Where would I get those nuts gaskets and bolts?
Is a boost controller necessary having a waste gate?

What's the catch can for?

And I seen like a golden eagle vacuum manifold i think?

I know there's something else.
Oh yeah, ECU??
p28 with hondata perhaps?

What about spark plugs?
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If you want to save $100 your stock fuel pump can handle up to 300HP.
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yes, I had things that I was going to get, but didn't put them up lmao.

Tuning-
Gauges-
Where would I get those nuts gaskets and bolts?
Is a boost controller necessary having a waste gate?

What's the catch can for?

And I seen like a golden eagle vacuum manifold i think?

I know there's something else.
Oh yeah, ECU??
p28 with hondata perhaps?

What about spark plugs?

Sorry forgot to say a boost controller is only necessary if you wanna turn the boost UP from the wastegate pressure. With no boost controller, your only going to run wastegate psi.
Vac manifold.... not really needed. You only need 2 sources of vacuum; BOV, and boost guage. Since your wastegate line can go to your turbo.
Spark plugs; good call, 1 step colder. NGK7's I ran, I believe.
Tuning; find a tuner first in your local area who knows what he's doing, than ask what he's most comfortable tuning with.
And I can guarantee you that the downpipe that comes in that kit isn't going to fit w/o major modifications. You're most likely going to need to cut/notch your cross member, if you don't need a traction bar.
The IC piping kit, should fit a lil better, but your still gonna hafta modify the engine bay to make it fit.


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If you want to save $100 your stock fuel pump can handle up to 300HP.
$100 is damn cheap insurance to make sure you don't lean the engine out and make it go boom
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Sorry forgot to say a boost controller is only necessary if you wanna turn the boost UP from the wastegate pressure. With no boost controller, your only going to run wastegate psi.
Vac manifold.... not really needed. You only need 2 sources of vacuum; BOV, and boost guage. Since your wastegate line can go to your turbo.
Spark plugs; good call, 1 step colder. NGK7's I ran, I believe.
Tuning; find a tuner first in your local area who knows what he's doing, than ask what he's most comfortable tuning with.
And I can guarantee you that the downpipe that comes in that kit isn't going to fit w/o major modifications. You're most likely going to need to cut/notch your cross member, if you don't need a traction bar.
The IC piping kit, should fit a lil better, but your still gonna hafta modify the engine bay to make it fit.
Oh okay, Yeah I won't be turning boost up anytime soon lol.
How would I make two sources of vacuum?
Sorry I'm a little new to this still.

For the spark plugs it's just NGK7's and then for my specific engine? I heard people like changing the measurment of them or something?

Hmm, you think so? I'm not really buying a kit, at least I don't think I am lol. I emailed the place and they supposedly "custom fabricate" the down pipe and stuff for your specific appliation, but who knows.

Hopefull I don't have to change it too much. lol.

I'ma have to look up some tuners nearby.


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If you want to save $100 your stock fuel pump can handle up to 300HP.
Hmm, I'd rather be on the safe side. lol It's already risky as it is.

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seems like you have a good plan and that turbo is a decent for your set up enough power to get you where your going but spool up time will be awesome!
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On the spark plugs you are referring to the gap. You will most likely be on 7 psi so stock gap will probably do fine. They can tell you that at the parts store when you buy them. The thing about plugs is if your power band is breaking up then sometimes it is caused by blow out. Which is when your spark is getting blown out by all the air your bringing in. So what you do is make the gap smaller and it will not blow out.
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seems like you have a good plan and that turbo is a decent for your set up enough power to get you where your going but spool up time will be awesome!
So it won't have hella lag? I ain't tryna have it spool full boost hella late. I only have 6500 rpms
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On the spark plugs you are referring to the gap. You will most likely be on 7 psi so stock gap will probably do fine. They can tell you that at the parts store when you buy them. The thing about plugs is if your power band is breaking up then sometimes it is caused by blow out. Which is when your spark is getting blown out by all the air your bringing in. So what you do is make the gap smaller and it will not blow out.

Ohh okay, that makes sense. Isn't there a specific gap that it needs to be? I've heard of like .032 or .028 or something like that
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I would just ask what the stock gap is at the parts store and then start from there.
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Oh also the catch can. It is placed in line with the breather on the vc and will hook up to the intake or intake side of the engine. It pulls vapor out of your vc and motor and anything like oil and such will stay in the catch can. So you will need to empty it every so often.
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So it won't have hella lag? I ain't tryna have it spool full boost hella late. I only have 6500 rpms
well thankfully us having heavy cars we came with a bigger displacement motor which means more air which that air helps spool up our turbos a tad faster than your every day civic would and my buddy has a 50/52 trim turbo on his b16 and my 60/62 h22 spooled up faster than his by a bit.... furthermore he swapped to a b20 a week later (cracked sleeve on the b16) and his spooled up faster then mine after that... but if your goal is 250 you can easily see that on a smaller turbo (w/o maxing out a samll turbo's capability) and have vertually no lag @ WOT
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I would just ask what the stock gap is at the parts store and then start from there.
Oh okay. Sounds good man, thanks.


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Oh also the catch can. It is placed in line with the breather on the vc and will hook up to the intake or intake side of the engine. It pulls vapor out of your vc and motor and anything like oil and such will stay in the catch can. So you will need to empty it every so often.
Hmm, okay. Ima have to look more into this. I get what you're saying, it's like where that little air filter at the top corner of the valve cover right? that's the little breather part? Sweet, I read of someone putting a little valve, to empty it.




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well thankfully us having heavy cars we came with a bigger displacement motor which means more air which that air helps spool up our turbos a tad faster than your every day civic would and my buddy has a 50/52 trim turbo on his b16 and my 60/62 h22 spooled up faster than his by a bit.... furthermore he swapped to a b20 a week later (cracked sleeve on the b16) and his spooled up faster then mine after that... but if your goal is 250 you can easily see that on a smaller turbo (w/o maxing out a samll turbo's capability) and have vertually no lag @ WOT
Hmm okay, I see. Well that's good then haha. SOmeone over on h-t said this "Stick with a Garrett 4 bolt turbocharger. Stay in the 50 trim or 57 trim category and stay 4 bolt turbine housing."

Does the turbo I posted not fall under this category? It's made from precision, that's the only different I see i think lol.
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Just an updated parts list.

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looks good man. you might be able to save some money by simply just getting a 3'' exhaust made at an exhaust shop honestly.

ill look on my bill and see how much mine was but it was custome made from the downpipe to the muffler 3'' all the way back w/ no cat. and house to a magnaflow 3'' inlet muffler. (and is not loud at all honestly even with out the cat) in fact with a 2.5 inchs exhaust with a cat on it b4 it was turbod it was even louder than what it is now. main reason is bc the turbo muffles the sound to a great extent, and if you run an open dump tube you not only get more power that way but sounds sick once you start spooling up!

and they also made the dump tube for me also (not to happy with how it looks so will buy the poilished one from treadstoneperformance.com and then angle cut it.

but if your goal is 250whp you may be able to get possibly a smaller turbo to help with turbo lag like i previously posted and spool up quicker while still reaching your powergoal easily. that being said 4g's is quite a bit for stuff i mean you may be able to save money buy simply buying the hks ssqv i bought the authentic one and love the sound and was way cheaper than the price on yours. i got a good deal on 1000cc injectors but maybe search around for some deals also.

and noticed you had rear cranks eal on the list... make sure you get your car running top notch before slapping a turbo on man will only save a headache in the long run!
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looks good man. you might be able to save some money by simply just getting a 3'' exhaust made at an exhaust shop honestly.

ill look on my bill and see how much mine was but it was custome made from the downpipe to the muffler 3'' all the way back w/ no cat. and house to a magnaflow 3'' inlet muffler. (and is not loud at all honestly even with out the cat) in fact with a 2.5 inchs exhaust with a cat on it b4 it was turbod it was even louder than what it is now. main reason is bc the turbo muffles the sound to a great extent, and if you run an open dump tube you not only get more power that way but sounds sick once you start spooling up!

and they also made the dump tube for me also (not to happy with how it looks so will buy the poilished one from treadstoneperformance.com and then angle cut it.

but if your goal is 250whp you may be able to get possibly a smaller turbo to help with turbo lag like i previously posted and spool up quicker while still reaching your powergoal easily. that being said 4g's is quite a bit for stuff i mean you may be able to save money buy simply buying the hks ssqv i bought the authentic one and love the sound and was way cheaper than the price on yours. i got a good deal on 1000cc injectors but maybe search around for some deals also.

and noticed you had rear cranks eal on the list... make sure you get your car running top notch before slapping a turbo on man will only save a headache in the long run!
Hmm Okay, I see. Maybe I might do that. It's just I'd like to buy a bunch of things from one place so that I can get a good price on them.

Sweet. I think I'll go with 3" exhaust for sure. The only thing is, I heard for 3" dp you need to notch some shiet, which I don't really wanna do lol.

Ahh I see. Well now I was recommended getting a turbo kit, from the go-autoworks place, but I'd have to see if Greg from there would be able to piece together a kit for me. It's around 2 grand for the kit, but I'd have to crunch some numbers to see if it's even worth it for me.

Yeah Idk on parts like these I'd rather not buy used. Yeah I could probably find some deals, it's just I don't have the patience to look, nor do I want any more problems than what I'm already gonna get myself into lol.

Yeah I'll have to see what I need to do lol. I think pretty much it would just be my main relay. Because sometimes my car doesn't wanna start. But right now my battery is like completely dead so I haven't really turned it on much lol.

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no porb man hope you get all your little probs fixed first and foremost! anyways i was in the same boat on used parts, however coming across 1000cc precision injectors for 125$ shipped i couldnt pass it down lol.

and yes i believe anything over 2 inchs the sub-frame will need to be cut I however got a traction bar to eliminate any cutting and it stractly replaces the piece that needs to be cut. and also helps with wheel hop significantly! and to help out i did not once cut it or have to even consider modifying it to make any turbo parts fit. it really does help with ease of installation!
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Hmm Okay, I see. Maybe I might do that. It's just I'd like to buy a bunch of things from one place so that I can get a good price on them.

Sweet. I think I'll go with 3" exhaust for sure. The only thing is, I heard for 3" dp you need to notch some shiet, which I don't really wanna do lol.

Ahh I see. Well now I was recommended getting a turbo kit, from the go-autoworks place, but I'd have to see if Greg from there would be able to piece together a kit for me. It's around 2 grand for the kit, but I'd have to crunch some numbers to see if it's even worth it for me.

Yeah Idk on parts like these I'd rather not buy used. Yeah I could probably find some deals, it's just I don't have the patience to look, nor do I want any more problems than what I'm already gonna get myself into lol.

Yeah I'll have to see what I need to do lol. I think pretty much it would just be my main relay. Because sometimes my car doesn't wanna start. But right now my battery is like completely dead so I haven't really turned it on much lol.

Thanks for your input bro!



So you think your gonna be able to do a huge project such as putting a turbo on a car that was never designed for one, without having to do a little bit of modifications such as cutting, trimming, notching, bending, banging, hammering, moving?!?!

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So you think your gonna be able to do a huge project such as putting a turbo on a car that was never designed for one, without having to do a little bit of modifications such as cutting, trimming, notching, bending, banging, hammering, moving?!?!

Good luck, is all I gotta say.
lol the cars gonna be a chop shop in the next couple months ... lol just trying to scare you buddy its not as bad as it sounds.... but yeah be prepared to get balls deep with a hack saw
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Dremel, FTW!
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Dremel, FTW!
hell yeah turning crazy metal work into arts and crafts :)
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no porb man hope you get all your little probs fixed first and foremost! anyways i was in the same boat on used parts, however coming across 1000cc precision injectors for 125$ shipped i couldnt pass it down lol.

and yes i believe anything over 2 inchs the sub-frame will need to be cut I however got a traction bar to eliminate any cutting and it stractly replaces the piece that needs to be cut. and also helps with wheel hop significantly! and to help out i did not once cut it or have to even consider modifying it to make any turbo parts fit. it really does help with ease of installation!

Yeah I feel it lol. Some deals you Just can't pass up haha.

And f.uck me....-___- lol. Yeah I know there's gonna be some cutting if I'ma be cutting might as well get the whole 3 " dp to 3" exhaust right.. lol
Hmm Is the traction bar hard to install??

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So you think your gonna be able to do a huge project such as putting a turbo on a car that was never designed for one, without having to do a little bit of modifications such as cutting, trimming, notching, bending, banging, hammering, moving?!?!

Good luck, is all I gotta say.
Gee.... thanks. lol
Obviously I know there will be modification.... my point is just trying to MINIMIZE the amount I have to cut.. lol

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lol the cars gonna be a chop shop in the next couple months ... lol just trying to scare you buddy its not as bad as it sounds.... but yeah be prepared to get balls deep with a hack saw
I need to get my hands on a dereml then lol.
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dremels can be found at home depot or any home store, and will help with essentially any mild projects you have with your house car or anything really.

and no not hard at all it will require an impact so make sure you can acquire something to get it tight and make it right lol.
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dremels can be found at home depot or any home store, and will help with essentially any mild projects you have with your house car or anything really.

and no not hard at all it will require an impact so make sure you can acquire something to get it tight and make it right lol.
Ohh okay. It shouldn't be too expensive right.

And oh okay. Impact? IMpact gun? lol. ****..
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yes an impact gun youll need an air compressor to unless you have a bad ass snapon electric impact maybe a performance shop can assist in putting it on i couldn't see labor being more than an hour worth of work considering they have alift and the tools at the palm of their hand (in which case they should and will.) the reason i say performance shop bc i doubt merchants will allow to put that on or dealers etc. its going to need to be soemone who is used to that specific stuff etc. or maybe a buddy who has a air compressor at the house.
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I took the front crossmember off with simply hand tools, no air what-so-ever.
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I took the front crossmember off with simply hand tools, no air what-so-ever.
tu-shay (or how ever you spell it) lol well i have an air compressor in the garage i didnt really tempt it w/o using it so i guess i shouldnt of said that w/o trying first hand just assumed since it was part of the chassis essentially lol.

sorry for the confusion man!
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tu-shay (or how ever you spell it) lol well i have an air compressor in the garage i didnt really tempt it w/o using it so i guess i shouldnt of said that w/o trying first hand just assumed since it was part of the chassis essentially lol.

sorry for the confusion man!


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yes an impact gun youll need an air compressor to unless you have a bad ass snapon electric impact maybe a performance shop can assist in putting it on i couldn't see labor being more than an hour worth of work considering they have alift and the tools at the palm of their hand (in which case they should and will.) the reason i say performance shop bc i doubt merchants will allow to put that on or dealers etc. its going to need to be soemone who is used to that specific stuff etc. or maybe a buddy who has a air compressor at the house.
Ohh okay. I see. hmm. I'd have to look into performance shops nearby.. Maybe BlackTrax in Milpitas would be able to do such a thing lol.

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I took the front crossmember off with simply hand tools, no air what-so-ever.
Damn. Lol. I guess it is possible then.

Traction bar, LSD. and I should be set with traction right? of course tires as well, but, I think My kumho ecstas should hold up pretty well.
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