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H23 Boostin! :)

Ok here's the deal. I will be building my H23 non vtec engine. It will be placed in my 2000 Ek civic. Yes I will be running forged pistons and dependable rods. I will also be replacing the stock bearings to make sure they won't blow. Camshafts will be in the mix. Guys my question is, I want a dependable turbo. I have a turbo (JDM sport turbo) capable of 35psi. Obvioulsy I will not running that much on a daily driven car. But I also heard of the TD05 (eclipse turbo). What would you guys pic, TD05 (WATER cooled turbo) or an OIL cooled turbo?

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I would think oil cooled is best
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Re: H23 Boostin! :)

can i just ask why h23? its going in a civic so why not all motor H22? im sure you can hit 12's with motor alone
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What in the wide wide world of sports is a (JDM sport turbo)?
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lmao @ "JDM sport turbo"
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can i just ask why h23? its going in a civic so why not all motor H22? im sure you can hit 12's with motor alone
I want Turbo because I do love the bov sound plus the power. I mentioned jdm sport Turbo because the Turbo itself is called "JDM sport Turbo" look it up
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Wow. Well Done. You will want an Oil cooled setup with a remote oil reservoir. Just a HUNCH.

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Re: H23 Boostin! :)

Might wanna reconsider your turbo choice...

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Uh guyan, is your Hutch parkway senses tingling? Mine are... Lol!

OP, I'll give you a freebie: holset, garret, turbonetics. Jdm sport kits use poorly refurbished units that run fine in labs but don't cut it in real life. Your search starts here.
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lol.. just do an H22a swap and call it a day. it will be alot better then what youre trying to do
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Re: H23 Boostin! :)

I thought the h23's head had a better flow. Plus I don't want to mess around with vtec. I'd rather not have it lol yes I said it guys. I don't want vtec lol its great and all but I want to be different
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An H22 head has a lot more flow than the h23. The ports are way bigger, and the lift and duration of the valve train make it a far better piece. Where did u get this h23?
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Don't worry, you'll be plenty different with your eBay turbo!
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An H22 head has a lot more flow than the h23. The ports are way bigger, and the lift and duration of the valve train make it a far better piece. Where did u get this h23?
My friend bought it of a kid in conneticut. Then I bought it off my friend.

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Ebay turbo? Who? lol. Because I'm not sticking with an Ebay turbo kit. Actually I was looking to get a TD05 but I wanted to see what was better.
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It's true; ignorance is bliss.
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I wouldn't recommend forged pistons on a daily
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Thanks abel. But why wouldn't forged pistons be good in my case?
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I thought the h23's head had a better flow. Plus I don't want to mess around with vtec. I'd rather not have it lol yes I said it guys. I don't want vtec lol its great and all but I want to be different
The only stock benefit of an H23 is manual tensioner (which can be swapped to an H22 anyway)
It has the same torque but at a lower RPM, other than that, the H23 is only a solid alternative to the F22 if you don't plan to do more than bolt-ons.
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if you plan to make get power out of an h23a1 you have to go in hard body. it wont be cheap, im telling you cause im doing it and im in about $4500 on the block and parts
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Im also looking at options for my H23..

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I found these in 10 mins of searching.. I havent started on my engine yet even, im ALMOST done with a suspension list.. and i have done DAYS if not WEEKS of countless hours of reading...
What has your Turbo done for u lately, waht do u want from it and what are u willing to do for it ?
Sounds like u want a serious engine, take it that way.
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http://www.preludezone.com/forced-induction/1373-best-turbo-setup-h23.html
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http://www.treadstoneperformance.com...26&phot_key=92


I found these in 10 mins of searching.. I havent started on my engine yet even, im ALMOST done with a suspension list.. and i have done DAYS if not WEEKS of countless hours of reading...
What has your Turbo done for u lately, waht do u want from it and what are u willing to do for it ?
Sounds like u want a serious engine, take it that way.
Thanks bro this was the type of questions I was looking for. I do want a serious engine. I'm not giving up on this. Stickin to my guns and will beef this engine up. I thought watercooled turbos were rare to get my hands on but looks like there not.
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The only stock benefit of an H23 is manual tensioner (which can be swapped to an H22 anyway)
It has the same torque but at a lower RPM, other than that, the H23 is only a solid alternative to the F22 if you don't plan to do more than bolt-ons.
Thanks for some info on this bro
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Ya, u seem all rarin to go.. It reminds me of me back in 98' lol..
It's a slow process, u may pick it up fast, or not..
EXAMPLE : Find 5 or more companies that make connecting rods for your vehicle, then bookmark them and do slow research, toss the ****ty ones and highlight the things that really interest you, and u will soon have a formidable bucket list of parts...
If u dont have a good working knowledge of engines, then get that first..
Please first understand what an engine is doing before u try to understand what a Turbo does for an engine.. If not u MAY get some preconceived notions... But by looking at one of those threads and skim reading real quick, i already learned that forged pistons are not so recommended for a DD, but sleeves sure are...
Overall, do what fits u... But it seems like u are a "modification missile" and u need a little guiding... Dont get all excited and **** before u learn to rev match

Tip #28 - oil heats up slower than water, thus cooling takes longer too...
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[QUOTE=static420;590599]Ya, u seem all rarin to go.. It reminds me of me back in 98' lol..
It's a slow process, u may pick it up fast, or not..
EXAMPLE : Find 5 or more companies that make connecting rods for your vehicle, then bookmark them and do slow research, toss the ****ty ones and highlight the things that really interest you, and u will soon have a formidable bucket list of parts...
If u dont have a good working knowledge of engines, then get that first..
Please first understand what an engine is doing before u try to understand what a Turbo does for an engine.. If not u MAY get some preconceived notions... But by looking at one of those threads and skim reading real quick, i already learned that forged pistons are not so recommended for a DD, but sleeves sure are...
Overall, do what fits u... But it seems like u are a "modification missile" and u need a little guiding... Dont get all excited and **** before u learn to rev match

Haha damn man. What can I say? I am a missle for performance parts but any who I am not quick to pull the trigger bro. I have been researching a bit. Like once a week. But I do need a bit of guiding. That is why I joined this forum. I get what you are trying to say and any feedback is appriciated. I am not ignorant I do want to build this once and build it right. Ya kno? Like the whole water cooled and oil-cooled turbo. Just wanted to know more knowledge from anyone who has had experience with either or.
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Have you read this?
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Wow! Now we're talking! Even after you digest all this delicious info, you're gonna go deeper just to improve the projects that sit before you. When I mean remote oil reservoir I mean it. If you get a decent turbo charger, you will consume oil. Nothing can change that, but get a refrigeration unit to keep the resevoir at 30-60*, you're golden. So many ideas bro. Turbo is the way to go!
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When I mean remote oil reservoir I mean it. If you get a decent turbo charger, you will consume oil. Nothing can change that, but get a refrigeration unit to keep the resevoir at 30-60*, you're golden. So many ideas bro. Turbo is the way to go!
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Aww man, I haven't seen this one, but then again I haven't begun to do homework on Turbos yet. +1
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