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Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

Before anyone jumps in and says piece together your own kit

I'm interested in a bolt on application with only 8psi I'm not interested in track days or taking it to the strip for drag. This will be for street use. Having said that... why are all the H22 kits for 97 + ludes? I thought the engine bay was essentially the same.

I did come across a kit for 4th gen h22 at dragturbokits.com but when I contacted them they said they no longer make kits?
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Prelude H22 and H23 Turbo Kit.- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

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Re: Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

I came across treadstone yesterday... 2nd line in that page says...

"97-01 H22, 92-96 H23" which seems to be the case for all the sites selling kits. I guess I can try calling them tomorrow to see whats up.
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Re: Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

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I came across treadstone yesterday... 2nd line in that page says...

"97-01 H22, 92-96 H23" which seems to be the case for all the sites selling kits. I guess I can try calling them tomorrow to see whats up.
the h22 and h23 heads have the same exhaust bolt patterns and i believe the same intake port too. so a turbo kit for a h22 will work for a h23 also.

the only thing you may come into an issue would be with the chargepiping. if they have prebent bends to go a certain length and one engine bay has different dimensions, the prebend chargepiping may need modifications.
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the h22 and h23 heads have the same exhaust bolt patterns and i believe the same intake port too. so a turbo kit for a h22 will work for a h23 also.

the only thing you may come into an issue would be with the chargepiping. if they have prebent bends to go a certain length and one engine bay has different dimensions, the prebend chargepiping may need modifications.


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the h22 and h23 heads have the same exhaust bolt patterns and i believe the same intake port too. so a turbo kit for a h22 will work for a h23 also.

the only thing you may come into an issue would be with the chargepiping. if they have prebent bends to go a certain length and one engine bay has different dimensions, the prebend chargepiping may need modifications.
Wow dude. You would be more right if you said a Ferrari is essentially a Prelude.
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Re: Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

So is it safe to say that there is no such kit available for a 4th gen h22 at the moment? Which means I should piece a kit myself.
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So is it safe to say that there is no such kit available for a 4th gen h22 at the moment? Which means I should piece a kit myself.
Pretty much. Get the piping and intercooler from eBay. It's cheap and really doesn't need to be too precise. Then get a turbo used and rebuild it (or new if you're lucky enough to have the money). Then, finally, get a manifold built or used. I guess a cheap one will work, but maybe not for long.
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Re: Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

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Wow dude. You would be more right if you said a Ferrari is essentially a Prelude.
since you two are so knowledgeable, care to enlighten us all as to what the op should look for?
also care to clearify what i stated is wrong?

if youre stating something is wrong with what i said about the exhaust manifolds, that is my bad. a h22 head has its own bolt pattern, h23 manifold will work on an f22aX heads. f23 and f22b are same.

i would like to know if what im saying or thinking is wrong since i would like to know the correct answers. im still new to the whole f/h series, ive worked with b/d series engines for years.
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since you two are so knowledgeable, care to enlighten us all as to what the op should look for?
also care to clearify what i stated is wrong?

if youre stating something is wrong with what i said about the exhaust manifolds, that is my bad. a h22 head has its own bolt pattern, h23 manifold will work on an f22aX heads. f23 and f22b are same.

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that's what was wrong, nothing about the charge piping.

i actually bought an almost complete turbo kit for a 5th gen and retrofitted it to make it work with my 95 H23, then F22.
obviously i needed a different manifold, which placed the turbo and wastegate in SLIGHTLY different locations, so i wasn't able to use the one charge pipe that came directly off the turbo.
if i did have an H22, the manifold, turbo, downpipe, wastegate, and all 4 charge pipes would've bolted DIRECTLY in place. which means the 5th and 4th gen engine bays are nearly identical.



as for your first question:
So, you wanna go turbo, huh?
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if i did have an H22, the manifold, turbo, downpipe, wastegate, and all 4 charge pipes would've bolted DIRECTLY in place. which means the 5th and 4th gen engine bays are nearly identical.



as for your first question:
So, you wanna go turbo, huh?
Soooo... I could use the 5th gen turbo kits for my 4th gen H22
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Soooo... I could use the 5th gen turbo kits for my 4th gen H22
Did you read the entire thread he linked?
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Re: Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

I did its a great read. Just haven't gone through ALL of the links in there yet. It seems like most ppl have questions about H23 ---> H22 compatibility. I'm talking 4th gen/5th gen H22 compatibility.

I finally got a call back from one of the guys at turbo-kits.com he said the down pipe may need to be extended to reach the cat and he wasn't 100% certain but he believes the IC piping won't fit through certain openings in the front end of the car and that they would need to be enlarged.
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Re: Turbo kit 4th gen for H22

your gonna need to do a shiitload of hacking to the front bumper, bumper beam, and engine bay to fit almost any IC piping + IC, it doesn't matter whether its for a 4G or 5G.

so please don't go into this project thinking it'll be completely bolt-on and that you won't need to hack/cut/modify/fabricate anything, cuz that won't happen.
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your gonna need to do a shiitload of hacking to the front bumper, bumper beam, and engine bay to fit almost any IC piping + IC, it doesn't matter whether its for a 4G or 5G.

so please don't go into this project thinking it'll be completely bolt-on and that you won't need to hack/cut/modify/fabricate anything, cuz that won't happen.
Sweet! I bought this car with the intention of it being a project car so I have no problem cutting up stuff! I do appreciate all the feedback. I'm not really sure which route I'm gonna take. I may end up building my own kit after all...
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yes, piece together your own kit
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Turbo kit for 1996 H22

Going to continue on this thread... After a lot of looking and researching I've decided to piece together a kit for my '96 H22. Below is a parts list that's still a work in progress. Your input/feedback/experience is much appreciated!

Turbo setup for street use with a goal of 280hp on stock H22 internals with 7-8psi and a good tune.

Parts:
Spoolin Performance cast manifold: I think this will be sufficient given my HP goals. Wastegate placement looks ok and I like the warranty. I decided not to go the Ebay route here...

Garrett T3/T4E, 50 trim compressor...need feedback please....was reading up on trim and a/r and wasn't sure how critical these variables are for my application/goals. A/R seems more relevant to where you want the power. Trim has more to do with airflow capacity. Also is an oil pressure regulator needed with journal bearing turbos?

38mm TiAL wastegate

IC and Piping (w/flange for HKS BOV) - Any recommendations on IC size? I know some hacking is needed here. I've also read Ebay is good for low boost applications like this?

HKS Blow off vavle - sounds sweet

Stealthmodeperformance oil line kit

Walbro 255 fuel pump

450cc DSM injectors peak and hold - I believe works with the '96 clips and resistor box. Inner part of plastic ring needs to be slightly enlarged.

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P72 ecu with Hondata

OBD2 to OBD1 wiring harness

Tune
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Contact your tuner before purchasing engine management. Some, like myself, refuse to tune certain ones or prefer others.
For sure. The tuner is very familiar with Hondata.

Nobody else has any feedback on this setup?
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Going to continue on this thread... After a lot of looking and researching I've decided to piece together a kit for my '96 H22. Below is a parts list that's still a work in progress. Your input/feedback/experience is much appreciated!

Turbo setup for street use with a goal of 280hp on stock H22 internals with 7-8psi and a good tune.

Parts:
Spoolin Performance cast manifold: I think this will be sufficient given my HP goals. Wastegate placement looks ok and I like the warranty. I decided not to go the Ebay route here...

Garrett T3/T4E, 50 trim compressor...need feedback please....was reading up on trim and a/r and wasn't sure how critical these variables are for my application/goals. A/R seems more relevant to where you want the power. Trim has more to do with airflow capacity. Also is an oil pressure regulator needed with journal bearing turbos?

38mm TiAL wastegate

IC and Piping (w/flange for HKS BOV) - Any recommendations on IC size? I know some hacking is needed here. I've also read Ebay is good for low boost applications like this?

HKS Blow off vavle - sounds sweet

Stealthmodeperformance oil line kit

Walbro 255 fuel pump

450cc DSM injectors peak and hold - I believe works with the '96 clips and resistor box. Inner part of plastic ring needs to be slightly enlarged.

Gauges

P72 ecu with Hondata

OBD2 to OBD1 wiring harness

Tune

Mostly everything looks good.

Off Garrett's website, re oil pressure restrictor;
"Garrett ball bearing turbochargers require less oil than journal bearing turbos. Therefore an oil inlet restrictor is recommended if you have oil pressure over about 60 psig."



FYI, I have an IC, piping, HKS SSQV, DSM 450's, and OBD2-1 harness layin around that I need to get rid of
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FYI, I have an IC, piping, HKS SSQV, DSM 450's, and OBD2-1 harness layin around that I need to get rid of
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