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new on the market... a real electric supercharger!

i know this thing works as i just finished building my own... and you can't do it for less than $4000!

check it out, this guy knows his stuff:
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Re: electric supercharger

Hmm. Definitely intriguing...the site is very vague, though...

I'd like to see some proven numbers and perhaps a detailed description of the actual design.
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Re: electric supercharger

looks legit.. costs a sh1tload
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Re: electric supercharger

Unfortunately I don't live anywhere near a dyno shop so I can't provide real numbers but I will post some pictures soon of the installed components. I am currently tuning it myself using AEM's FIC. As soon as I got it close I will be able to do a virtual dyno run using Auterra's Dynascan software which will provide a full chart of the results.
Also, since this is my own home built one I am not getting the results that the commercially available one from Superpowerchargers my motor/compressor wheel is direct drive compared to the other setup which utilizes a overdrive transmission with a 1:2.5 ratio.
So I am only getting about 60'000 rpms instead of the other one at 50'000 x 2.5 = 125'000 rpms.
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Re: electric supercharger

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Re: electric supercharger

Search for superpowercharger on YouTube and watch all of the videos by James Diamond... I know this system will work as proclaimed as he overcame all the challenges through professional engineering. It may cost a lot but remember it is not vehicle specific so u can pull it out and put it in a different car!
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Re: electric supercharger

Here are some pics of my own design installed in my bb6
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Re: electric supercharger

Massive turbo out of a diesel truck with 4" inlet and 2.5" outlet.
I used a servo pulser and connected it to the throttle shaft that controls the butterfly valve. I wish I had it connected electronically to the TPS but this was quicker and easier for now.
To water cool the brushless motor and speed controller I pulled the whole windshield washer reservoir, pump assembly out of a wrecked car. I wired it so it would start circulating when I arm the supercharger.
Of course 12 volts wasn't enough... 48 much better!

Like I said earlier... Just working on the tuning... Not much documentation on tuning an electric supercharger
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Re: electric supercharger

Btw my boost gauge shows 5psi just before shift... Tough to watch it and drive safely at the same time... Sure is fun tho... 5psi is awesome considering this is a direct drive system... A few more rpms would provide significant extra boost. Just need that over-drive transmission in between the motor shaft and compressor wheel shaft.
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Re: electric supercharger

Of course I need to keep a close eye on my injector duty so I don't exceed the stock system as I keep adding boost. So far it looks like 6psi will be about my limit... But since there is no parasitic loss going electric the 5psi is significant. I can sure feel the difference over n/a!!!
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Re: electric supercharger

its just hard to believe that it makes power but doesnt look like the cheap ones they sell on ebay
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Re: electric supercharger

That's pretty cool but a lot of weight in the trunk.

Can you get a motor and speed controller for Lipo batteries for this? That would be badass.
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good god that is scary. you are driving a potential bomb around. how many batteries is that??? 4 or 8??? why arent they vented??? dont think its worth the risk personally, let alone paying near 4 grand for it.

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Re: electric supercharger

The yellow top batteries are quite safe. And it is totally vented. There are no sides closing in the box. Others have put the batteries in enclosed boxes which is also fine. These are not standard car batteries.
But it is definitely extra weight. It's like carrying around a small passenger all the time at 100 lbs. Lipos would be awesome but that would be even more expensive.
U should hear this thing tho... Sounds awesome! sounds like a bomb about to blow up!! Lol
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Lets hear it. Take some vids of this thing :)
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Re: electric supercharger

I've seen this thread since the first post date, and was intrigued by what you want to do. But in the amount of custom fab work I see you're doing, what was wrong with a DIY turbo kit, pushing 6-12psi? Shops know how to tune turbos and program your ecu. I do not see a boost controller, or a wastegate or a blow off valve.

Superchargers run off Belt(s), and doesn't need as much air control, but IF you do not use some kind of pulse width modulation (which would solve all three problems), you are going to put a whole lot of air where it don't belong, You have an electric turbo. Also, You should be avoiding Brushless motors, Per the website, as you will lose efficiency and the motor will wear out prematurely. Are you even using their 42V alternator? How are you gonna charge those batteries?

More on P.W.M.; you can make a simple circuit to make the motor spin when, how hard, and when it should shut off. For example

Condition: max power (full motor rpm) after 1500 rpm
Condition2: max power until 5500 rpm; drop 25% rpm
Condition2a: reduce power per x rpm; 11% drop per 300 rpm
Condition3: no power 8000 rpm
Condition4: Reduce power 90% clutch pressed; brake pressed; neutral

For example. A lot of companies can make this circuit, you can research how to make it yourself. And then a tuner can make a map for you. I'm oversimplifying for the sake of this post, but this is what you want. Toggle switches and TPS sensors will still put out max flow without any mercy to your engine.

The cheap way is to put a twist knob resistor right on the power to the motor and put the bov and wastegate. I personally think you might be inclined to use full power all the time.
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Re: electric supercharger

Anybody can go buy a turbo and pay someone to install it. My mission was to create an electric supercharger that actually produced noticeable and usable boost. My project has nothing to do with the one from superpowercharger.com
It was strictly coincidence that this guy developed and marketed a real one before I did. This guy, James Dimond, overcame every mechanical challenge and has a real supercharger that outperforms all traditional boost methods.

My system has an in-dash switch which converts the battery connections from a parallel circuit, for charging at 12v, to a series circuit at 48v for running the supercharger.
Btw... Brushless motors are the only way this can be done. They are extremely efficient and capable of high power output.

And I am using a PWM controller so I have full control of the boost level.

I did not install a BOV as there is no need with my application at my current boost level. Remember that there is no issue with the back pressure from letting off the throttle as there is no exhaust impeller to worry about.
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One disadvantage of my design is it does not run full time. Most of the time i am driving in charge mode and then use the boost occasionally. It is like NOS that doesn't run out! But hey... This is just the beginning of electric superchargers. The one commercially available from Superpowerchargers is designed to run full-time! And produces an amazing amount of PSI. It may be expensive up front but you only have to buy the system once... Then if you decide to sell your vehicle, pull out the supercharger and put it in your next vehicle. It is like installing a high output stereo system! Most of the installation involves wiring so it is easy to simply unbolt the components and remove it. Just leave the wiring.
There are many advantages to an electric supercharger over the conventional exhaust or belt driven systems. Technology has finally advanced enough to make it possible! In fact, the technology is ground-breaking! This is the ground floor of electric superchargers. You will be hearing a lot more about them in the near future!!
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Unfortunately I don't live anywhere near a dyno shop so I can't provide real numbers but I will post some pictures soon of the installed components. I am currently tuning it myself using AEM's FIC. As soon as I got it close I will be able to do a virtual dyno run using Auterra's Dynascan software which will provide a full chart of the results.
Also, since this is my own home built one I am not getting the results that the commercially available one from Superpowerchargers my motor/compressor wheel is direct drive compared to the other setup which utilizes a overdrive transmission with a 1:2.5 ratio.
So I am only getting about 60'000 rpms instead of the other one at 50'000 x 2.5 = 125'000 rpms.
stay tuned for some pics...
I think you are one of the sponsors/makers of this product and are posing it works to sell it.
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I think you are one of the sponsors/makers of this product and are posing it works to sell it.

That's funny you're saying that. I think you are totally right my friend.
This guy has been on here since 2009 and has only a few posts. Now he's posting a thread that's talking about a very expensive piece of equipment.
Then again, it's still nice to hear about something that is such a breakthrough in a new form of boost.

Great thread but too expensive for me.
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I can see that it looks like I am endorsing the product but that's not the case. I am just quite excited about the technology. There are so many skeptics on this topic... Just glad someone finally did it.
As for an update on my project: I was on a long road trip when my boost instantly cut out. A couple set screws came loose on my coupler shaft and the inherent wobble caused the brushless motor to fail. Dang! forgot to use thread lock :(
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