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DSM TO JDM TURBO KITS?!?!?!?

Alright im seeing tons of stuff on the web about people using almost a whole dsm turbo setup on there preludes im not sure if im reading this right or not but are the 2nd gen eclipses turbo setups interchangable with the 4th gen preludes? minus the pipeing and all that I know that wont bolt up to it
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Alright im seeing tons of stuff on the web about people using almost a whole dsm turbo setup on there preludes im not sure if im reading this right or not but are the 2nd gen eclipses turbo setups interchangable with the 4th gen preludes? minus the pipeing and all that I know that wont bolt up to it

Don't know what you mean by interchangeable...but the 2nd Gen dsm turbos called T-25 is cooled with water lines in addition to oil lines. You need to tap into your cooling system as well as find a suitable spot for the oil feed. you also need figure out a oil return. The exhaust manifold has a different bolt pattern and needs to be modified to fit your head. Also it would be wise to port match.

So I guess the short answer is no..
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Re: DSM TO JDM TURBO KITS?!?!?!?

I've heard of people doing it. As far as the exhaust manifold goes you can just buy on that fits your engine instead of mofidying a DSM one since that would be a bitch. They're not really interchangable... you'll still need custom piping and additional parts like a blow off valve/wastegate to get things working properly.

Honestly though if you're going turbo I wouldn't cheap out with a DSM set up.
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I've heard of people doing it. As far as the exhaust manifold goes you can just buy on that fits your engine instead of mofidying a DSM one since that would be a bitch. They're not really interchangable... you'll still need custom piping and additional parts like a blow off valve/wastegate to get things working properly.

Honestly though if you're going turbo I wouldn't cheap out with a DSM set up.
A dsm turbo with low miles can be bought for $100. For a person on a budget it would be a perfect setup. Even though its not a direct bolt on, it can be done and done right for much less than if you were to go buy a brand new turbo.
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Well sure, but if I was going to turbo my car, I'd do it right the first time and not buy a turbo with thousands of miles already on it. Just my opinion.
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Well sure, but if I was going to turbo my car, I'd do it right the first time and not buy a turbo with thousands of miles already on it. Just my opinion.
I agree..but a rebuilt t25 goes for 100-150 bucks...with little to no miles at all.
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DSM setup is still much better than spending $700 on an eBay setup
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DSM setup is still much better than spending $700 on an eBay setup
My point exactly. Dsm turbos are quality turbos and will provide plenty of hp/tq on a high compression engine to satisfy someone on a budget. Its hilarious that people actually buy the ebay turbo junk. A real mhi 16g goes for $500, a chinese knock off goes for 200..lol.
You could build a great turbo kit from dsm parts provided you get rebuilt or low mileage stuff.
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My point exactly. Dsm turbos are quality turbos and will provide plenty of hp/tq on a high compression engine to satisfy someone on a budget. Its hilarious that people actually buy the ebay turbo junk. A real mhi 16g goes for $500, a chinese knock off goes for 200..lol.
You could build a great turbo kit from dsm parts provided you get rebuilt or low mileage stuff.
I feel like you're a little bit biased.
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I feel like you're a little bit biased.
How so? Cause I own a dsm? I also own a 5th gen prelude sooo Lol...those turbos dont do **** for our engines so no im not biased at all. This isnt a dsm vs honda question.This is a question about boosting a honda. If it were a question about whats the best turbo to buy and $ is no object, than I would say there are much better turbos than oem dsm turbos. But if you were knowledgeable about boosting than you would have to agree that on a budget, thats the way to go. I know my **** about forced induction dude..im just trying to help the guy out with info since most people on here dont know a lot about turbos thats all.

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How so? Cause I own a dsm? I also own a 5th gen prelude sooo Lol...those turbos dont do **** for our engines so no im not biased at all. This isnt a dsm vs honda question.This is a question about boosting a honda. If it were a question about whats the best turbo to buy and $ is no object, than I would say there are much better turbos than oem dsm turbos. But if you were knowledgeable about boosting than you would have to agree that on a budget, thats the way to go. I know my **** about forced induction dude..im just trying to help the guy out with info since most people on here dont know a lot about turbos thats all.
Ya I had a 97 eclipse gst for a year and its been nothing but broken and my buddy owns a shop full of dsm and thats it so he has shelfs upon shelfs of dsm manifolds and turbos so I was just wondering if I could yank one off his shelf and drop it in my car thats all money is sorta a object with me but I want to do it right so im takeing my time to do it right im building my F22 first before I put a turbo on it but thanks for the info man and for others theres no reason to be snobby on here its just a question
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My point exactly. Dsm turbos are quality turbos and will provide plenty of hp/tq on a high compression engine to satisfy someone on a budget. Its hilarious that people actually buy the ebay turbo junk. A real mhi 16g goes for $500, a chinese knock off goes for 200..lol.
You could build a great turbo kit from dsm parts provided you get rebuilt or low mileage stuff.
How are the fmic and turbo pipeing you get off ebay do those atleast hold up under pressure cause I figured get a ebay kit and put a good turbo on it idk how the pipeing holds up or the fmic
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How are the fmic and turbo pipeing you get off ebay do those atleast hold up under pressure cause I figured get a ebay kit and put a good turbo on it idk how the pipeing holds up or the fmic
I ran a ssauto fmic kit on my car for 3 years than sold it to my brother. The only issue i had was the throttle body elbow. The face, where it meets the throttle body wasnt perfectly flat so I had it resurfaced. Other than than, ran 18 pounds of boost no leaks.
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How are the fmic and turbo pipeing you get off ebay do those atleast hold up under pressure cause I figured get a ebay kit and put a good turbo on it idk how the pipeing holds up or the fmic


for simple, NON-mechanical parts (i.e. turbo's, wastegates, bov's, etc) ebay parts are fine, GRANTED you know what your buying.
IC piping is IC piping (for the most part. some have bead-rolled ends, but you don't gotta worry about them until really high HP numbers), an intercooler is an intercooler for the most part since it's simply a heat-exchanger, even tho the more expensive ones have less pressure drops across them....
but ebay MANIFOLDS are notorious for cracking from shiity welding/metal used, so i'd stay farrr away from them.

get my point?


agreeing with turbodsm, if you just wanna get your feet wet with F/I for your first turbo build, there's nothing wrong with a DSM setup. VERY cost effective for about 250whp which is alotttaaa fun
but if your building the F before-hand and doin it the right way, i'd suggest a gt30r for around 350whp or an SC61 for around 450whp
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IC piping is IC piping (for the most part. some have bead-rolled ends, but you don't gotta worry about them until really high HP numbers),

I agree with everything you say but this. I bought a j-pipe for my 16g and had to cut it shorter for better fitment. Tried running it with no bead...just some spray adhesive and expensive t-clamps and that silicone would blow off literally everyday...at 14psi (on my set up that was around 260hp)...DO NOT run ANY piping with out beads...just my advice...its annoying pulling over and putting your piping back together..lol
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for simple, NON-mechanical parts (i.e. turbo's, wastegates, bov's, etc) ebay parts are fine, GRANTED you know what your buying.
IC piping is IC piping (for the most part. some have bead-rolled ends, but you don't gotta worry about them until really high HP numbers), an intercooler is an intercooler for the most part since it's simply a heat-exchanger, even tho the more expensive ones have less pressure drops across them....
but ebay MANIFOLDS are notorious for cracking from shiity welding/metal used, so i'd stay farrr away from them.

get my point?


agreeing with turbodsm, if you just wanna get your feet wet with F/I for your first turbo build, there's nothing wrong with a DSM setup. VERY cost effective for about 250whp which is alotttaaa fun
but if your building the F before-hand and doin it the right way, i'd suggest a gt30r for around 350whp or an SC61 for around 450whp
Ya I figured for the price of buying sleeves and sending it out to a machine shop i can just build the hell out of a f22A1 i can pick up the whole engine for like $400 and i found out the 4G63T pistons fit in the hondas so im going to get a set of weisco 4G63T pistons some I beam rods and im still contimplating on what to do on the head and i didnt even go as far as thinking of a GT30R turbo yet I was just going to do some T3/T4 16G crap but I like the sound of GT30R better requires a little more building I guess but do you have any suggestions on the head? should I put some titanium valves in or build a head off a H22 or H23 im just looking for suggestions
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I agree with everything you say but this. I bought a j-pipe for my 16g and had to cut it shorter for better fitment. Tried running it with no bead...just some spray adhesive and expensive t-clamps and that silicone would blow off literally everyday...at 14psi (on my set up that was around 260hp)...DO NOT run ANY piping with out beads...just my advice...its annoying pulling over and putting your piping back together..lol
Ill keep that in mind thanks
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