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Icon5 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

I'm new to this forum and to Hondas in general, as I just became a member here after acquiring a pretty unique 2000 SH with a bunch of upgrades including a turbo kit w/intercooler. What little I know about cars is all from the domestic V8 side, and I'm pretty unfamiliar with import engines and turbos altogether. I do know that these high-compression FI engines are high-maintenance and need to be tuned and babied in order to run well and prevent damage...but I know the last owner didnt really know what he had or how to take care of it (all of the high-end upgrades came from the owner before him.)

So here is my question to you boost junkies who have a ton of experience with Turbo H22s - If you just bought this car yourself, and you knew it had been neglected, what are the first things you would do to make sure you brought the car, engine, and tune to where it should be? You can answer this question like I dont know crap, because...I dont... (and yes I already know a rebuild is in my future...)

My uninformed guess would be a regular maintenance tune-up on the engine etc., then a dyno-tune at a good tuning shop to make sure the FI was running properly. But i already hit my first snag...the local Honda mechanic wouldnt even touch the car because it had a turbo on it. Period. Should I go to a tuning shop just to get regular maintenance items done? How can I do this the most cost-effective way and still do it right?

BTW my goal for this car is to keep it and make a project out of it - its got a lot of money in high-end parts in it, and I want to build on what I have...but I want to hold that off as long as possible on heavy expenses (insert rebuild here) for obvious reasons! The car is daily driven and needs to be reliable, first and foremost.

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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

Hey mate, looks like a nice pickup.

You're not quite right, yes high comp F/I engines need to be looked after, but they are by no means fragile. Quite a few members on here have had their boosted setups for a while and the cars give them many years of happily running around like a headless chook.

You say you're sure it's been neglected, so one of the first things I'd do is a compression test to see if rectifying the problem will require a rebuild or not. Then pick up where you said with the regular maintenance and tuning.

As for who to take it to, hopefully somebody local can chime in - I'm not much help from the other side of the world.
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

JDM H22a1? Or just the valve cover lol
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

ah..... its garbage and you sould just sell it to me for cheap and save yourself the headache.... jk...

as stated before turbo builds are usually pretty reliable if done right. And why do you say you see a rebuild in the future? It might have alrealy been rebuilt to do the turbo setup so you would just be wasting your money...

I would just drive it... Replace things as they need to be replaced.

IF you want to do something now I would track down the previous owner who did all the mods and find out what all they did and who all did it. all the parts put into it and what shop tuned it. etc...

that will give you a much better idea of whats going on and what you might or might not have to mess with. good luck man and nice ride.

p.s. I wanna see pics of the whole car.
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

ughhh, look in your new member page for one of my responses hahaha.

yes, FI cars are always gonna require a bit more maintenance, but mostly all of it should regularly be done on any car.

like Colin said, i'd do a compression test to make sure the engine is in healthy condition. this test literally takes 5 mintues, but tells alot about the condition. along w/ the comp test, a regular tune-up is always a good idea. looking at your spark plugs can tell alottt about the motor as well.

DEF find a good local tuning shop, b/c i don't blame the regular mechanic for not wanting to touch the car. alotta places won't due to it being non-OEM F/I.
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

Very Nicee snag, the turbo looks a lil rusty but I guess all turbos get that way after awhile espaicially if there daily drivin
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

what they said. dont stress just yet. also inspect all the hoses clamps and such for leaks and wear if the turbine looks like that then the rubbers may need some care
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

Ok good stuff so far...twoke I did get your reply in New Members, great info and I'll be looking for that casting number, thanks. Also can I do the compression test myself? What results should I look for? And what can the plugs tell me about the engine that I should keep an eye out for?

JDM H22A1 or just the valve cover? Umm...I have no idea whats the difference and how can I tell? I'm assuming just the valve cover cause it looks almost new...

True, the motor could be built already (damn, wouldnt that be awesome?) and just have a tired tune or something...also I noticed some of those blue rubber couplings on the turbo piping are old and cracked (in fact the bumper is tearing the one on the intake side of the intercooler to shreds...) I figure I might be losing boost pressure there which might be another reason it feels lazy.

Thanks again for the help all. Heres pics for Camshafted...good idea hunting down the old owner, but not a clue where I would start with that.





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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

ok yeah i figured that was the case with the hoses. replace those and also get a new front bumper (never liked that one) i say because 1 its tearing the intercooler and 2 cause ur facia/mouth is way too small ur ic need more air than that.
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

Yeah, both bumpers are gonna be the first things to go, they're ruining the look of the car IMO...any suggestion on a replacement? I thought the same thing about the induction for the intercooler, the flow looks really lousy...is there a wide-mouth fascia that would show my intercooler off without looking ricey? If not I wanna just take it back to stock with a lip kit, and maybe just modify the piece (Dremel to the rescue) to fit the intercooler piping.
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

hmmm. not sure about the body kits most are pretty ricey. i say just modify the stock one like u said with a lip. that would be tight.
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hmmm. not sure about the body kits most are pretty ricey. i say just modify the stock one like u said with a lip. that would be tight.
ricey? that's a mugen replica front........
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

If that hood isint designed for the car to cool the engine down, i say scrap it.
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

I'm not crazy about how it looks, but it cools the crap out of the turbo...you can see light refracted by the heat waves like crazy above the hood vents while the car is running, its pretty cool. It is an expensive CF hood...its just ugly!
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ricey? that's a mugen replica front........
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Re: 2000 SH w/GReddy Turbo kit fell into my lap...what's the first order of business?

I would have to suggest some form of engine management other than the Emanage that came with the kit.
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