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Old 07-04-2010, 12:18 PM
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well, everything is done! but one problem.

well, we got everything bolted on, and everything put in. but one problem.
when i try to drive, i bog like hell, then it goes to normal. after like 4k rpm, but i have no boost and @ idle, it the turbo barely moves until a few revs,


i noticed, my oil line is ****ed to hell, and leaking from the top of the turbo, so, i do have to get this replaced monday, my friend also said maybe the ecu? and im like damnn it.
i got my ecu from phearable.net, so i highlyyy doubt it. does it sound like oil is the issue?
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

CUZ YOU NEED TO GET IT TUNED!!!!!


you can't simply bolt-on a turbo and expect it to run like it came from the factory like that!



you got a list of everything you've installed?


not all turbo's spin @ idle. the bigger the turbo, the less it'll spin @ idle, since the motor isn't flowing enough exhaust to spin it.
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

LOL .. WTF were you thinking ?
See what happens when you rush this **** .. you NEED to tune.
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

the closest tuning place is 30-45 mins away
how am i suppose to get it there o,o

everything installed:
450 injectors (dsm blue tops)
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new oil line (2mrw)
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replaced new gaskets/clamps

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the closest tuning place is 30-45 mins away
how am i suppose to get it there.
you really should have thought about that before installing everything.
But a basemap for your ECU can get you to a tuner, just don't beat on it with the basemap.
Or .. remove your 450 injectors, remove your p28 ECU, and replace with stock injectors and stock ecu and drive carefully without boosting to your local tuner.
Are you on stock MAP ?
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

eh towing sounds good to me aha
or my friend thats coming over 2mrw, he knows a couple of tuners,
1 in charlotte, 1 in winston (winston is way closer)
so i just take the ecu out right?
and, basically i have no boost whatsoever, when me n my other friend took around the block. it stays at 0, and 20 vacuum, so, basically, we just gotta re-do the oil thing, then i can get the ecu tuned.
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i just want to list my problems so i can knock em out aha
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Ya def tow it. U can complain about how much a tow truck will cost forever but it'll save ur motor in the end. Or u can save the money for a tow n blow 2k plus considerin ur motor n ur setup. Given the alternative I'd pay for the tow
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OMFG. Do not get a FMU.. Tow it to a tuner, and get tuned on Chrome, Neptune, or Hondata. Hondata s300 offers the most, but is also the most expensive, there is also the s100 and s200 versions of Hondata. But Chrome is free if I remember correctly, so I would just get it tuned on Chrome, but honestly it is your tuner's preference. If your tuner is really familiar with Hondata, then you should probably bust out the bills and get tuned on Hondata. But please, for the love of god don't drive an untuned car..
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you tow it then what ? .. the tuner gets your car on the dyno and finds out that you have a **** load of problems that need to be worked out before the actual tune ..

The best thing to do is replace your p28 and 450cc injectors with stock ecu and stock injectors, take out your wastegate spring and go for a drive ..
Fix all your problems and CELs before heading to the tuner, fix your oil leaks, fix your vacuum leaks, make sure your engine is ready for the dyno.
I hate towing street cars to the tuner unless I know for sure that the engine is 100% ready to be strapped up to a dyno.
When you get to the tuner then you put in your 450 injectors and p28 ecu.
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eh towing sounds good to me aha
or my friend thats coming over 2mrw, he knows a couple of tuners,
1 in charlotte, 1 in winston (winston is way closer)
so i just take the ecu out right?
and, basically i have no boost whatsoever, when me n my other friend took around the block. it stays at 0, and 20 vacuum, so, basically, we just gotta re-do the oil thing, then i can get the ecu tuned.
HUH!? i realy think you need to have the whole car towed there...not just take the ECU. I have never had a car tuned but i do believe it involves the whole car being there. To be honest im not sure on alot that goes into a boost setup and that is why i havent considered doing one. No offense but it seems as if you didnt know alot about it either. If you did you more than likely wouldnt be in this situation asking these questions. But hey...good luck!
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theres nothing wrong with an FMU. i mainly said it to get a response outta Neck :)
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nothing wrong with an FMU ? .. You're kidding right ?
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you tow it then what ? .. the tuner gets your car on the dyno and finds out that you have a **** load of problems that need to be worked out before the actual tune ..

The best thing to do is replace your p28 and 450cc injectors with stock ecu and stock injectors, take out your wastegate spring and go for a drive ..
Fix all your problems and CELs before heading to the tuner, fix your oil leaks, fix your vacuum leaks, make sure your engine is ready for the dyno.
I hate towing street cars to the tuner unless I know for sure that the engine is 100% ready to be strapped up to a dyno.
When you get to the tuner then you put in your 450 injectors and p28 ecu.
I dont have any CELs

and i guess i will replace the injectors/ecu
not that hard, aslong as i dont have to take off the damn fuel pump, holy hell, im fixing the oil/vacuum leaks 2mrw.
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well, i just hope everyone learns from my mistakes, just in case, im looking for a new car also xD! or an engine atleast.

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well, i just hope everyone learns from my mistakes, just in case, im looking for a new car also xD! or an engine atleast.
engine blew up already ?
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FMU' are not a bad idea. Do your research.
WTF ? ..
I trust a basemap 100 times more than any FMU .. but I would never drive on either of them for more than 10 miles .. dyno tune is the ONLY safe way if you wanna play with F/I .. and if you're broke then turbo aignt for you ..
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

There are good reasons for both. Up until VERY recently drag cars used FMU' all the time. They are reliable. You just cant tune as well up in the higher horse power. Also you don't always have to be changing it. It's just as reliable as an FPR. If you were to go out and buy a supercharger kit (up until VERY recently) they usually would come with an FMU. Changing the fuel at the rail is not a bad thing. And oh yeah... its hella cheap priced!
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89 CRX (Stock) - Sold
94 Civic EX - Totalled
92 Prelude Si - Blown Motor
96 Chevy S10 (3inch lift kit, tinted windows, sound system, sunroof, ballin!) - Sold
96 Ford Explorer A.K.A: Chopsmobile (If you drive it you will know why I call it the Chopsmobile) - Blown Tranny
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

im getting it dyno tuned for 300, for like 8 pulls,

i just need a hondatas100.
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

i finished with my install today too and im having the exact same problem. im thinking its the wastegate thts stuck open? and my oil line also is leaking pretty badd but i fixed tht. i just dont kno why its not going in boost and its bothering me.
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Re: well, everything is done! but one problem.

Lol JRSC's still come with an FMU and we put the SC on my friends civic ya know what we did with that FMU? We put it in the trashcan, where it belongs. With an FMU it MIGHT work if you use EVERY part they give you and NOTHING MORE. But as most of us know a lot of "kits" have some parts that are better than others. So you may use the IC and Piping from a turbo kit, but you might not use the actual turbo. But idk, just personally, I would much rather trust a tuner with Crome, eCtune, Neptune, or Hondata
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i finished with my install today too and im having the exact same problem. im thinking its the wastegate thts stuck open? and my oil line also is leaking pretty badd but i fixed tht. i just dont kno why its not going in boost and its bothering me.
we just went over this like 100 times... you havnt gotten it tuned... so therefore it is adding more air but not more fuel which is very bad for your motor. I would stop driving it before you have to throw your motor away.
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The only thing realistic about The Fast and the Furious is that the DSM breaks in the first race!
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89 Civic Hatch (fidanza flywheel, excedy clutch, intake, exhaust, short shifter, tein drop coils, D16ZC) -Sold
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