Dylan's Turbo Question Thread

[KHester84]

Bustr...I found the forum with the dyno results from a setup like this one...dyno results

He said it hit full boost around 3k!

[My97Prelude]

Still having trouble deciding on what type of manifold to go with.

I really would like to get a log because I might be able to keep my a/c.

But i hear equal length will give you so much more power.

[twokexlv6coupe]

EQ's usually give an extra 50-60hp and 40-50tq compared to a log, simply by switching the mani's.
i know prelude2perfect has a topmount that retains PS and AC, if you feel like dishing out however much he did for that thing
i'm also tryna keep PS and AC as hardddd as possible for my upcoming build, so if i find anything i'll let ya know.

as for other fabricators for mani's, check out:
lovefab, onefab, full race, revhard, maxrev, and peakboost. i can't guarantee they're all compatible, but they're worth checking out/giving a call to see if they can do custom mani's.

[My97Prelude]

Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe

EQ's usually give an extra 50-60hp and 40-50tq compared to a log, simply by switching the mani's.
i know prelude2perfect has a topmount that retains PS and AC, if you feel like dishing out however much he did for that thing
i'm also tryna keep PS and AC as hardddd as possible for my upcoming build, so if i find anything i'll let ya know.

as for other fabricators for mani's, check out:
lovefab, onefab, full race, revhard, maxrev, and peakboost. i can't guarantee they're all compatible, but they're worth checking out/giving a call to see if they can do custom mani's.

Power steering im not too concerned about, simply because its kansas and 95% of the roads are just straight, its like a flippin grid.

But thanks for the info, i will probably talk to prelude2perfect and see where he got his from.

[KHester84]

Did ya decide on a manifold yet?

[My97Prelude]

Originally Posted by KHester84

Did ya decide on a manifold yet?

Yeah, I would love to keep my a/c, but for the power gains I can get with equal length I think I am going to go with a Lovefab Mini-Me EQ.

[twokexlv6coupe]

suchhhhhaaa sexy manifold.

i would love to ditch AC, but it was 90 degrees today and my car was slightly overheating so i had to blast the heat while driving.....
there's no way i could live w/o AC, and i'm only in jersey

[My97Prelude]

Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe

suchhhhhaaa sexy manifold.

i would love to ditch AC, but it was 90 degrees today and my car was slightly overheating so i had to blast the heat while driving.....
there's no way i could live w/o AC, and i'm only in jersey

lol 100 here today in kansas, and I can't run my a/c anyways cause the car will die at idle. I did fine =)

[mogie]

where do i tap into for oil cooling for my turbo? probs been asked 100 times

[My97Prelude]

Originally Posted by mogie

where do i tap into for oil cooling for my turbo? probs been asked 100 times

the oil pan, search on honda-tech and I am sure you will find something that has pictures etc.

[twokexlv6coupe]

Originally Posted by My97Prelude

the oil pan, search on honda-tech and I am sure you will find something that has pictures etc.

thats for the drain line. for the feed line its either off the oil pressure sensor, or a sandwich plate.

[ShoofIsLudin]

http://www.tunertoys.com/category_s/495.htm

can still use ur stock oil pressure sender...and it has 2 openings for oil feed and oil gauge...or whatever else u wanna do.

I have one, screwed into my motor, oil psi gauge, and the other opening is blocked using the plug provided with it. in the bag/package

[twokexlv6coupe]

^^^ that's what i got too.

except i heard horror stories about putting that directly onto the block. since the oil pressure sender for an aftermarket oil gauge weighs a decent amount, i've heard of those Tee's snapping off in the block when the engine is revved/under load, then you gotta extract it outta there, maybe retap the threads, etc.

i just remote mounted it for peace of mind.

[My97Prelude]

Well I guess for a little update I haven't done much research lately. I am still really set on boost.

But the idea of a possible f22 block/h22 head combo sounds awesome, a lot cheaper too.
Just wish there was more useful information on it, can't find anything at all.

[twokexlv6coupe]

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1069869
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=776837
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=510617
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=776837



enjoy

[2keggie]

if you went w/ a half core rad, you might be able to get that mini mani and keep ac. the turbo you linked was to a t2 based gt28. make sure you get the t3 version. i dont think a t2 will breathe enough for an h22. if for some reason you decide to go with the t2 based turbo tho, i have a mani, dp, pipes and ic available =D. also have a full greddy kit available soon too.

[twokexlv6coupe]

just found this awesome vid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA5T5...embedded#t=522

[sleepy5950]

My question. i have an f22 from what ive read so far stock wise they handle turbo better then other stock honda engines. is it wise to thro a turbo on a stock f22?? im not looking for much i want 250hp-300hp, not sure how much psi that is, i guess that depends on the kit. i dnt want a huge amount of psi, cuz im assuming the more psi the more stress on ur engine and i def dnt want a blown engine. Also if i juz do a moderate turbo upgrade would that elminate me wrenching on my car everyday, cuz im pretty lazy i juz want to do it once and barely touch it again and it needs 2 be my reliable everyday car....maybe i should juz do the super charger route!?

edit:this is waht i had in mind"enjoy cruising [Not Drag Racing] and occasionally blowing off obnoxious Ultima and mustang drivers, a turbo is your ticket. If done properly, it's an "install it and forget it" proposition. And it doesn't take all manner of boost pressures to have fun (and keep the engine together). "

Thanks in advance for helping dylan

[twokexlv6coupe]

nope, boosting an F22 aint worth it

[sleepy5950]

Originally Posted by twokexlv6coupe

nope, boosting an F22 aint worth it

really give me reasons why? n dnt say cuz H's are faster i kno that. the impression i got from researching is f22 has a better compression rate then an H22, im also gettn the impression that very few ppl on pz like F's but i dnt care

[twokexlv6coupe]

you obviously dunno what i drive

:::twokexlv6coupe::: 1995 SE-T

[My97Prelude]

What size intercoolers are you guys running?

I am thinking somewhere around 18x6x3 or 20x8x3 would probably be alright for me?

Edit:

This also threw me for a loop:

Originally Posted by 2keggie

if you went w/ a half core rad, you might be able to get that mini mani and keep ac. the turbo you linked was to a t2 based gt28. make sure you get the t3 version. i dont think a t2 will breathe enough for an h22. if for some reason you decide to go with the t2 based turbo tho, i have a mani, dp, pipes and ic available =D. also have a full greddy kit available soon too.

Whats the difference in t2 or t3 versions?

[T.E.L.]

my97prelude for starters I'm an n/a guy but I'm going to question your turbo choice. especially because it seems like you are going to build the block. I'm wondering why you don't want want to go with the garrett gt30rr vs the 28? is a price issue? because when you get your goal and have it for awhile you'll want a little more....

[My97Prelude]

Originally Posted by T.E.L.

my97prelude for starters I'm an n/a guy but I'm going to question your turbo choice. especially because it seems like you are going to build the block. I'm wondering why you don't want want to go with the garrett gt30rr vs the 28? is a price issue? because when you get your goal and have it for awhile you'll want a little more....

because after selecting the power goal and reading through all three pages of this:

http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html

When plotting my data on the various compressor maps that turbo will work the best for the power goal I want to achieve.

Also after taking what bustr said into consideration I will not have to build the head at all for this setup. Therefore saving quite a bit of money. Also price is somewhat of an issue.

BUT, regardless of price being a small issue I do understand the whole "do it once, do it right" thing and don't plan on cheaping out on components.

[Bustr]

well... yea you can run a stock head...but for piece of mind i would do valve springs and retainers... considering that you want turbo and you want to rev out higher. IMO i wouldn't do f22 block.... you can run a stock bottom w/ mahle low compression pistons... but your setup will be as good as the tune. you can't get reckless ... i wouldn't push alot of boost....plus more boost less traction. you can also do sleeves which i would recommend so that way you don't have to worry.

as far as ac.... and powersteering... a/c okay yea sure its nice to have... but who cares when your going fast enough w/ the windows open feels like a/c anyways LOL. powersteering you wouldn't need ..you said straight roads... besides turbo = torque steer... lol... w/o it you will have more control.

yea .....logs are junk.... equal length is where its at. i had log and it sucked... i ran hotter and had horrible back pressure... don't get me wrong... 9psi on a that mani isn't horrible but if your trying to run more... get an equal lenght.... spoolinperformance.com makes a quick 4 and a quick4ac or something... check it out.

[My97Prelude]

Originally Posted by Bustr

well... yea you can run a stock head...but for piece of mind i would do valve springs and retainers... considering that you want turbo and you want to rev out higher. IMO i wouldn't do f22 block.... you can run a stock bottom w/ mahle low compression pistons... but your setup will be as good as the tune. you can't get reckless ... i wouldn't push alot of boost....plus more boost less traction. you can also do sleeves which i would recommend so that way you don't have to worry.

as far as ac.... and powersteering... a/c okay yea sure its nice to have... but who cares when your going fast enough w/ the windows open feels like a/c anyways LOL. powersteering you wouldn't need ..you said straight roads... besides turbo = torque steer... lol... w/o it you will have more control.

yea .....logs are junk.... equal length is where its at. i had log and it sucked... i ran hotter and had horrible back pressure... don't get me wrong... 9psi on a that mani isn't horrible but if your trying to run more... get an equal lenght.... spoolinperformance.com makes a quick 4 and a quick4ac or something... check it out.

Cliff Notes:

Dont worry about a/c or power steering.
Logs are crap. Get Equal Length
Valve Springs and Retainers

=D

Thanks again bustr, but now back to the original question I had!

Originally Posted by My97Prelude

What size intercoolers are you guys running?

I am thinking somewhere around 18x6x3 or 20x8x3 would probably be alright for me?

[twokexlv6coupe]

i know mine is 6"x3", and i'm pretty sure its 18" long, not positive about that. instead of cutting up the bumper support (its some thickkkkk metal) i opted to trim the bumper and lip which was alotttttt of trimming.
i wanna redo mine soon and cut into the support to raise the IC so its fully in the bumper opening (looking better and provide better air flow), and the piping will be raised from to behind the fog areas, instead of behind the lips that mate the bumper and lip together


currently:

you can see its pushed back at an angle once the bumper is mounted.

cuz its mounted a lil low, under the support



and the piping runs right along the two lips of bumper/lip


so i wanna raise it like an inch or two