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Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

Hello All: I would like to buy a 5th gen turbo kit. The goal is to have 450hp- 500wph @25psi max.
Which one you reccomend me? Greddy? Turbonetics? an OEM one? buy separately? Please let me know I prefer something that has all to bolt on because IŽd like to buy and ship this to Argentina.

I will appreciate all your responses.
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

Is this for an Integra or Civic? I noticed your name says "Type R"

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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

no such thing as a bolt on turbo, all turbos need to be tuned. o and u wont be able to run more than 8lbs of boost on stock internals and block
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

Pleas use the surch i mean the answer was right in a stick wear you posted this.

B/4 you even ask this kind of question you need to ask What are your goals with your lude is it just to have 500whp or what, how much money do you have, how much have you read up on turbocharging a h22? I can go on and on. YOU NEED TO READ and then ask questions. If you don't even know what turbo to get then to me that mean you know lil about turbos. Not a bad thing even ppl with 6-700hp lude didn't at some point. You need to be reading everything you can get your hand on. It's going to take a lot of work and money to get to that point. people that have spent over 10k on just tuning to get up to them kind of #s.

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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

I have another car, and I have all new including crank. I am not the guy who cames here to say hello I want 500 hp.

I am going to buy pistons rods, valves, cam, intercooler,rc300 or better inyectors, AEM/hondata, clutch and all the stuff required. (IŽd like an APEXi boost controller)


With 10k are we ok? Or do I need more?
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

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I have another car, and I have all new including crank. I am not the guy who cames here to say hello I want 500 hp.

I am going to buy pistons rods, valves, cam, intercooler,rc300 or better inyectors, AEM/hondata, clutch and all the stuff required. (IŽd like an APEXi boost controller)


With 10k are we ok? Or do I need more?
lilbluelude has a h22 3rd gen that has 650whp
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I have another car, and I have all new including crank. I am not the guy who cames here to say hello I want 500 hp.

I am going to buy pistons rods, valves, cam, intercooler,rc300 or better inyectors, AEM/hondata, clutch and all the stuff required. (IŽd like an APEXi boost controller)


With 10k are we ok? Or do I need more?
With a WHP goal of 500 your going to need like injectors that are 750+ otherwise your going to start leaning out. Also, your going to have to sleeve the block. If you think your going to make 500whp on a stock motor and not have you motor blow within a few weeks then you still have a lot to learn. Tuning is key. TUNING IS KEY!

Check these out. And this is only the very tip of the iceberg. There is so much information that you must understand before turbo'ing a car.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=783372

and this one I want you to read every single thread in there that pertains to turbo. Some are for superchargers so just skip over them.

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1024174
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

Hi,

I dont think I can made this with stock motor, as I posted before.

Thanks for the data, I will read it.
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I have another car, and I have all new including crank. I am not the guy who cames here to say hello I want 500 hp.

I am going to buy pistons rods, valves, cam, intercooler,rc300 or better inyectors, AEM/hondata, clutch and all the stuff required. (IŽd like an APEXi boost controller)


With 10k are we ok? Or do I need more?


Yes you are, you just did exactly that. You appear to have no knowledge at all, if I may say that on here without pissing others off.


P.S. Your grammar is atrocious. If you expect anyone to remotely be able to help you out, I suggest your write like a normal person so we can understand you.

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You appear to have no knowledge at all, if I may say that on here without pissing others off.
x2. There is a lot of research that goes into going turbo. Its not an over-night decision. I've been reading up on turbo applications for a little over a year and I still don't understand everything. and when I say I've been reading up, I've been doing some extensive extensive research, and still I feel like I know nothing.


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He is from Argentina. In the first post he said he wanted to get the turbo kit shipped there.
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Thank you very much for you help and sorry to bother you.

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Oh my bad, well somebody here is bound to speak spanish, help this guy out!
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

no at all, really, I know a lot of engines, but only about N/A. I have been dragging a lot, but , again, only with N/A.

I was going to purchase a 97 Lude, and like to know how much money will I have to expense in order to build that kind of engine, only to calculate.

You only how much is needed for you and thats ok , will advise my engineer here to help me with technicals issues.

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Thank you very much for you help and sorry to bother you.
Dude your not bothering us. Stick around for awhile and tell us how the build goes.

I just didn't want you thinking it was a simple job doing a turbo build. especially when your hp goal was 500.
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

I know its hard an expensive. But if with 10k I am ok , if I am decided I will let you know.

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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

a guy i know in maryland, has a 728hp 5th gen lude, he put about 10k into the motor, and maybe another 6k on the turbo exhaust tuning, trial and error ish and suspension. it runs a 9.1 and he is getting a longer tranny. It runs 680whp safely.
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

Buy the SEARCH turbo
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

With 10k your not even halfway there.

Like everyone states..read and research, But heres a brief summary.

You have 10k to play around with? Well build up your block and head. You need your motor to be able to handle 25psi. And like someone stated above you defintely cannot do that with stock internals.

As for the turbo kit, its better to piece together your own kit, not only will you spend less money, but you will have more knowledge if something were to go wrong..YOU would know what piece went wrong..rather then paying 1000's of dollars just for a mechanic to say this part is wrong and you have to pay for another piece on top of that.

Like i stated, just getting your car moving will most likely be more then 10k, and your still going to need money left on the side just in case something were to go wrong.
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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

okay guys quit beating the dead horse...

he didn't search... I think he gathered that there was disapproval...

he understands he's going to have to build the block and that 10K may not cut it.

let's drop the useless hostility.

good luck with the build, keep us posted if you follow through.







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Before you spend anything, I think you need to sit back and work out exactly where you want to go with the car. Why is it that you need 500whp? If drag racing isn't high on your priority list, then straight away I advice you to have a bit of a rethink, as 500whp in a fwd car is borderline dangerous on the street; hell 300whp is dangerous if it rains a lot or the roads aren't good quality!

If you just want to have a 500whp car, then as much as I'd love to read about it, I'd strongly reccommend using another car, because the Prelude is a far from ideal platform for a big build. Sure it's been done, and like I said, I love seeing people do it, but it needs to be for the right reasons. Far too many times I've seen somebody embark on a build only to realise that it's way harder than they expected, then sell up, generally letting all their parts go for around 50 cents in the dollar.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that if you're still keen to do it, have a read around the suggested threads then come back with any questions you might have and we'll do our best to help you.
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If you just want to have a 500whp car, then as much as I'd love to read about it, I'd strongly reccommend using another car, because the Prelude is a far from ideal platform for a big build. Sure it's been done, and like I said, I love seeing people do it, but it needs to be for the right reasons. Far too many times I've seen somebody embark on a build only to realise that it's way harder than they expected, then sell up, generally letting all their parts go for around 50 cents in the dollar.


Man, if only I could get 50 cents to the dollar I spent on this car now! I'd be able to sell it for $20k!

But all around, Brash is right. Far too many times we start a build without delving into the social or mental aspects of the build itself. Such as, why do we want to do the build? And who are we proving this to? Is it economical? Is this the right platform for the build or is it "what I've got." These are all good things to consider for sure!

This is why I went for overkill on my setup, only to throw a supercharger on it. Alot of people don't realize that my block and head are strengthed for, I'd say 400+whp easily, but guess what I make? 230whp. But it's perfect and very streetable. I'm not breaking stuff every day and it's been extremely reliable. I think it's better to be understated and respected than viewed as over the top and borderline insane Not saying the guy with 700+whp on a prelude is insane or anything...


P.S. Anyone want to buy my car for $13k?

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Re: Need to buy 500whp for a 5th gen!

i think 15K ontop of the car price and ur good
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