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Ok i've literally read through just about everything turbo related on this forum (and quite a few others as well). I'm looking at building up a turbo list instead of buying a complete turbo kit, and just planning on buying turbo parts throughout the next 9 months or so and also read on everything possible on turboing my 93 si with a recent h22 vtec swap after my h23 blew with around 170k on it. I'm looking (obviously) for about the cheapest route to go (which I know will not result in as much hp or psi) but i'd like something that would get 5-10 psi without having to replace any of my engine really (seeing as how the new engine only has 25-35k on it but I also really don't want to **** anything up in it). So if anyone would have any experience in what i'm interested in doing I would appreciate any input on getting a list started of all necessary turbo parts.
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are you looking for a general list of stuff you would need or a more specific brand names and sizes and such? nif you've done the research you said you have then you should know the general idea of what you need. i'm sure you already know this. the about of boost you wanna run depends on which turbo size you choose. do you want something to spool up faster for low end acceleration or something bigger for higher rpm power, which would be better for dd so you can stay out of full boost when you wanna save on gas. stay away from cheap ebay turbo's and wastegates. the ebay cast iron manifolds i think you be ok, i've seen people use them successfully, i even got one on my list.
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Re: h22 turbo list

psi doesn't mean anything. don't go by that.
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Re: h22 turbo list

Hardwhite, yea it is a daily driver so I would like to keep in turbo in the higher rpm's. Looks like the t3/t4 hybrid is a popular one but would you recommend that for a daily driver?, and also how much boost would that put out? Also yea I checked on the turbonetics website for a t3/t4 and all of these came up (http://www.turboneticsinc.com/produc...category_id=75) so im kinda confused at what is difference between all of these and which would be the best. Twokexlv6coupe, could you elaborate your on comment please. Even on how much i've read I certainly do not understand everthing. Thanks
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Re: h22 turbo list

i've heard the t3/t4 hybrids are good for higher rpm numbers. the original turbo i was going to go wtih was a hybrid, and i was told it reaches full boost somewhere around 4k, which would be easy to stay out of for dd. i'm not too sure aobut matching the different sizes for what you want and all, Twokexlv6coupe could prolly help more with that, he knows alot more about it than i do. but the ones you wanna look at are the ones with the .63 a/r, the .48 will spool up pretty fast i'm sure. i'll try to help you as best i can, but i'm pretty sure if i can't answer it Twokexlv6coupe can, he's the turbo guru around here, he pretty much inspired me on the motor i'm building
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Re: h22 turbo list

yea I read his sticky forum in forced induction and it really got me going and helped quite a bit. I'm just looking for some specifics as far as parts that aren't going to rape my ass price-wise but isn't gonna blow the **** outta my engine, but yea thanks for the input.
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Re: h22 turbo list

if your in no rush, wait around the the right deal. unless your real pressed on getting only brand new parts. i got over half my stuff from some dude on preludepower that needed the money fast. on things like intercooler and piping you can get away with buying used cuz there's not much that can go wrong wtih them, as long as you see pics and make sure the fins aren't bent. the rest is up to trusting the person. thats probably the best way to get cheaper parts that are legit. but you gotta gamble on them screwing you over. if you look on preludepower i think theres a few people selling turbo parts
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Re: h22 turbo list

When I was going to build a turbo motor like a year ago, I went to treadstone's website. They got some pretty fair prices and almost everything you need. And just FYI, most people would say you could run 7psi on a stock H22 and be fine.
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Re: h22 turbo list

yea thats usually the given number thrown around, 6-8. but alot of times i see them set their goals higher than what they end up doing
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Re: h22 turbo list

just checked over on pp.com, found some dsm injectors for $40, usually run for at leats $100, and good wastegate for not too expensive.
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psi doesn't mean anything. you can run 7psi on a 14b and not even make 200whp, or 6psi on a GT35 and make over 300whp. it all depends on which turbo you wanna use, how much CFM's it flows, as well as how many CFM's your motor flows.

do a lil bit more reading (and math, on Tech103) and let us know the results, so we can size a proper turbo for your application.
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...rbo_tech_basic
Read all 3 sections, basic, advanced, and expert. than read them all again.

it also helps to let us know what you wanna use the car for (drag, auto'x, etc) and how much you have to spend.
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Re: h22 turbo list

thats somewhere around the line of what i was trying to say. lol. i'm just not good with words. i was trying to get to the point that different turbos psi is gonna put out different power.^^^see he's more educated than me pulling out all the big words and fancy acronyms and what not. haha. by the way, Twokexlv6coupe, i don't think i know your first name, i've talked to you on here from time to time and don't know your name. lol
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Ok i've literally read through just about everything turbo related on this forum (and quite a few others as well). I'm looking at building up a turbo list instead of buying a complete turbo kit, and just planning on buying turbo parts throughout the next 9 months or so and also read on everything possible on turboing my 93 si with a recent h22 vtec swap after my h23 blew with around 170k on it. I'm looking (obviously) for about the cheapest route to go (which I know will not result in as much hp or psi) but i'd like something that would get 5-10 psi without having to replace any of my engine really (seeing as how the new engine only has 25-35k on it but I also really don't want to **** anything up in it). So if anyone would have any experience in what i'm interested in doing I would appreciate any input on getting a list started of all necessary turbo parts.
All I have to say is good luck as I don't think its a matter of how many miles are on your present motor/engine but it has to do more with the compression.

I too have been looking at lots of turbo builds and heard lots of stories about running low psi with stock internals. I have not seen one yet that didn't blow or the owner finally said it was time for more power. Just resently I read about another forum members motor blowing and I believe it was a built motor by that saying sleeved and forged pistons. So my idea of building a motor ( at around $7,000 ) I said forget it, then I decided on a turbo kit (turbonetics) at 8 psi, then I heard of all the others having done the same thing and blowing the motors, so I think I am going to go ahead and drop in the clutch and 8 lb flywheel I have and see how I like those up grades then I will decided then if I want to do a n/a build might cost more yeah but will last much longer and withstand more abuse it seems.
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exactly. and knowledge is synonymous with experience.
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Re: h22 turbo list

alrite well thanks for everyone's input, especially twokexlv6coupe, that website helps me understand quite a bit more of how the turbo works. I probably won't be starting to buy the parts until next spring or so, seeing as how i'll be in college and won't have any money to invest before then, and hopefully get the thing in by next fall.
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yea turbo and college isn't easy. thats what i'm going through now. luckily i had most of the parts bought before college. now i got an f22b2 engine so when i go to build it i don't gotta get it sleeved. if i had $1000 dollars i could have my block pretty much built. main thing is to get a good job in college that pays well, ain't got none of them in morgantown
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Re: h22 turbo list

I'm assuming op never did ended up boosting huh...?
Well I'm gonna jack his thread lol. I'm doin research for my future boost. I've only been reading for a week but man I'm so confused, there are so many thread out there about turbo and they're all so different; wether be flaming, na vs fi, blah blah.

Anyways here's what I came up with so far.
-I'm gonna swap a newer h22 when my current finally gives up. A healthy motor for a low boost.
-my goal is to get up to 300hp and use it for my DD, a lil bit of drag at the strip.
-sleeve the block, forged internals, a little head work, bigger injectors.
AND twokexlv6coupe short list
turbo
intercooler
IC piping
blow off valve
wastegate
manifold
downpipe
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oil feed and return lines
gauges. boost, oil pressure, o2, egt, and oil temp are the most important, but you dont need all of them.
gaskets, flanges, vacc lines, fittings, and all the misc crap

I will probably have 5-6k for this build.
Anyways any advice would be greatly appreciated. Need pointers to the right direction pls! Thanks!

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I have also been doing loads of research on turbo stuffs lately. Read through all of these articles by Garrett (courtesy of twokex) and it should give you a lot better understanding of all the details that go into a working turbo system. Then use google coupled with honda-tech and it should give you 95% of what you're needing to know.

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psi doesn't mean anything. you can run 7psi on a 14b and not even make 200whp, or 6psi on a GT35 and make over 300whp. it all depends on which turbo you wanna use, how much CFM's it flows, as well as how many CFM's your motor flows.

do a lil bit more reading (and math, on Tech103) and let us know the results, so we can size a proper turbo for your application.
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...o_tech101.html

it also helps to let us know what you wanna use the car for (drag, auto'x, etc) and how much you have to spend.
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