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Old 02-25-2009, 02:43 PM
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Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

I recently purchased and installed an aftermarket steering wheel a few months ago (mine was all torn apart because the jerkoff before me slammed into a car and the air bags deployed)

The SRS light is on (obviously) and the air bags were never replaced. I'm pulling the SRS light out of the back of my cluster so I don't have to worry about that. The thing that I AM worry about though, is that in order to pass inspection, I'm going to have to find some way to convert that stupid ass tape wheel to a single wire. I mean in reality I dont need a horn, I could even get inspection stickers, but I'd rather my car function like it was supposed to

If anyone has any experience with aftermarket steering wheels please guide me in the right direction. I've searched on google, and here on preludezone and have come up empty handed.
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

are you talking about the brass circualr strip that sits under the physical (plastic)button?

It should have a screw holding it down if it is what i am thinking of, just back out the screw and throw a crimp connector up under it, tighten down, done.

if this doesn't work/help, maybe you can post pictures of what you are trying to do, or do with.
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

When you pull the steering wheel off, under the air bag is the tape wheel that has 3 wires coming off.

2 for the horn (1 wire on each side for the horn buttons)
1 the air bag

its a circular black swiveling wheel that has the 3 wires coming off of it. The problem that I'm having is that the wires that connect to that wheel are all together in the "tape" part of it. Its long and flat and it looks like some thick electrical tape. There are 5 or so wires inside that one piece of tape wire.

I'll try to get pictures but my camera decided to poop out on me a few weeks ago. I'll use my girlfriends camera to take pictures either tonight or tomorrow.
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

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i had this same problem with a momo steering wheel i put on. i just gave up though.
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

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i had this same problem with a momo steering wheel i put on. i just gave up though.
I refuse, but I just haven't had the time to grab pictures. I've been a bit busy lately.

Pictures of this by the end of the week. No doubt.
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When you pull the steering wheel off, under the air bag is the tape wheel that has 3 wires coming off.

2 for the horn (1 wire on each side for the horn buttons)
1 the air bag

its a circular black swiveling wheel that has the 3 wires coming off of it. The problem that I'm having is that the wires that connect to that wheel are all together in the "tape" part of it. Its long and flat and it looks like some thick electrical tape. There are 5 or so wires inside that one piece of tape wire.

I'll try to get pictures but my camera decided to poop out on me a few weeks ago. I'll use my girlfriends camera to take pictures either tonight or tomorrow.

i have a non-srs setup...so i have 3 wires

green/red, green/black and blue/red

the blue/red is the 'hot' for the horn and the other two are for cruise control


you also have to remove the 'swively thing' (connectors included) and i believe you have to run a wire from the horn connector to the one on your aftermarket wheel (a dc2 ITR wheel in my case)

hope this helps somewhat..i'm gonna finish mine in a while and snap some pics

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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

as promised:



That's the horn connector...you only need the blue/red one,the other two are for cruise control. As you can see,the 'swively thing' has been removed



that's the underside of my DC2 steering wheel..it doesnt contact anything on the prelude,so i connected the live wire feed to it. my soldering iron died,so i used electrical tape as shown:



you gotta make sure that it's long enough to allow for turning,so give it lots of slack



i cut and cleaned the red/blue wire (horn) and connected to the one from my live

after that,secure everything and re-assemble..the horn works now


for your needs,just find some way of connecting that wire to the live on your aftermarket steering wheel ensuring that it doesn't get in the way of anything (duhh )

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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

glad to help out man

today i copped a new soldering iron,so i took it apart again and soldered the respective wires (i wasn't too comfortable with that tape)
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

I got a bunch of wire nuts, and a few soldering irons. just gotta clean them bad boys up
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

unfortunately, nothing good happened. I got underneath my dash (my lude doesn't have the harness right behind the column like yours) and I don't have color coded wires.

I'll take a look at it again. Did you remove the swivel wheel but just keep the wires from it? Because if thats the case then I think I may have Effed up. Not bad, but I just gotta find my tape wheel again.

I'll post pics in the next few days.
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I'll take a look at it again. Did you remove the swivel wheel but just keep the wires from it? Because if thats the case then I think I may have Effed up. Not bad, but I just gotta find my tape wheel again.

I'll post pics in the next few days.
yep..the harness that i posted was connected to the swivel wheel
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yep..the harness that i posted was connected to the swivel wheel
Ight now I get it

Sorry I'm a little slow.
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

Alright well I pulled the tape wheel apart and GOD DAMN.

Did you keep the tape wheel all together? Because in order for me to get to the horn wires I'd have to keep the whole tape wheel together am I correct? I wouldn't even know how to go apart tearing off the tape wire part of it and keeping just the horn wire itself.
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Alright well I pulled the tape wheel apart and GOD DAMN.

Did you keep the tape wheel all together? Because in order for me to get to the horn wires I'd have to keep the whole tape wheel together am I correct? I wouldn't even know how to go apart tearing off the tape wire part of it and keeping just the horn wire itself.
tape wheel?

i'm assuming that's the black swivel thing?
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tape wheel?

i'm assuming that's the black swivel thing?
yes. Its got like 30 feet of tape wire in it. Its reDUNKulous.
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

weird...

mine had a couple brass contacts on it..maybe it's the difference in our market models?

but can't you remove the entire unit? maybe a pic would help
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weird...

mine had a couple brass contacts on it..maybe it's the difference in our market models?

but can't you remove the entire unit? maybe a pic would help
Gotcha. I'll post a pic up in less than 10 mins.
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Tape Wheel & red/blue horn wire ^^^^
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

mine didnt have that tape stuff in it in,but yeah..that's what you need to dump

once you have access to the horn connector

a guy on preludeonline.com was supposed to show me another way of doing it but he hasnt replied to me yet
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mine didnt have that tape stuff in it in,but yeah..that's what you need to dump

once you have access to the horn connector

a guy on preludeonline.com was supposed to show me another way of doing it but he hasnt replied to me yet
wow that sucks. Ight well thanks for the help with it. Atleast I know what I'm doing now. I just need a different harness.
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Hey guys, any updates?????
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i have a quikrelease wheel. i completely blew off the horn and then re-wired it to a switch i mounted by the cruise control panel. all you have to do is ground the switch/button, then run like 5 feet of 18 gauge wire through the fender, splice the 18 gauge and positive on the horn connector then ground the other negative wire to the fender or something. i mounted the horn next to the power steering resevoir. it works and gets the job done
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

I dont mean to hijack this thread guys but Smok3y you seem to have a lotta experience with whats behind that 4th gen wheel now so I'm hoping you can help me out.

I have a 4th gen prelude that I want to use the s2000 steering wheel in.

I KNOW THE SPLINES ARE DIFFERENT.

But I'm having a shop modify it so that the s2000 wheel will physically fit the 4th gen's spline.

Now that thats done, I've gotta worry about the air bag and cruise and horn wiring.

Now I've read this link at NTPG: 5g S2k Wheel Install

And I'm CONFIDENT that I can follow that DIY and use it.

MY problem is, I'm not sure that the connectors for the Air Bag and Cruise on the 5th gen are the same on the 4th gen. I KNOW they're not the same as the S2000's and therefore will require modification. I wanna know if 4th and 5th gens are the same. Smok3y that link has several pictures of what the 5th gen connectors look like, and i'm hoping that you will take a look at it to see if it is similar to what we have in the USDM 4th gen.

Other than the spline issue, do you by any chance know if this DIY write up will work for the 4th gen?

Thanks in advance for any/all help/info you can provide!

Also can anyone confirm... I was told that the AP2 wheel cannot work beacuse it has a stage 2 air bag, and we have got use a stage 1 air bag... is this accurate?


Ultimately I think I can figure out the cruise control, its the airbag connector i'm concerned with beacuse I really dont want to mess with the wires for that-

These are the only pics I can find of the 4th gen's airbag connector. If you have any info on this or can help me figure this out before I start dropping money on an AP1 wheel, I'd REALLY appreciate it!



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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

As far as that s2k wheel on a 4g, follow that write up. the 5g connectors are all very very similar if not identical to the 4g's. As far as the airbag I can't help you there. I haven't had many cars where I started messing with them. The big fat yellow plug there is identical to a 4g's. the best thing to do, is to take the airbag off, go to your local honda parts dealer, and tell them you need an s2k airbag and a 5g prelude airbag. fortunately removing the airbag is maybe 20 mins of work. From there if they are identical, follow the write up it'll guide you the right way.

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i have a quikrelease wheel. i completely blew off the horn and then re-wired it to a switch i mounted by the cruise control panel. all you have to do is ground the switch/button, then run like 5 feet of 18 gauge wire through the fender, splice the 18 gauge and positive on the horn connector then ground the other negative wire to the fender or something. i mounted the horn next to the power steering resevoir. it works and gets the job done
I could have easily just slid it through the hole in the wheel and left some extra slack so that it could move. I just wanted to keep the OEM tape wheel b/c it swiveled and I knew I would never have to worry about the wires being pulled off the prongs.

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Hey guys, any updates?????
Unfortunately the lude is long gone. Sold about 6 or 7 months ago. Bought me a bronkha and I'm gettin me some mud on dat darn dere thanger!
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Re: Horn on Aftermarket steering wheel?

Thanks for the help anyway bro.

At this point I know for a fact I need an AP1 wheel, or an early AP2 wheel.

I will make the cruise control buttons work some how. I'm not worried about that.

Its the air bag connectors that I wanna know if they're the same for both 4th gen, as the 5th and Ap1 we already know match up perfectly.

Does anyone know where I can get the appropriate pages of the HELMS manual for the 4th and 5th gen regarding the steering wheel and air bags?

I imagine that will till me everything I need to know.
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