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Old 11-16-2010, 04:17 PM
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Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

I got a paint quote from Maaco today, their second stage package (out of 4), along with $100 for stripping the right side (cracked), a detailed sand prep, $75 upcharge for red, it came out to $620 with tax's. Two year gloss warranty. It's not the cheapest paint / coat they sell, but it isnt the top notch either.

That sound fair? For those who've gotten their ludes repainted.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

its maaco you get what you pay for man if your just looking for a quick respray than yeah its a good cheap price id make sure they mask everything off correctly though or you will have a red radiator and red exaust and red body molding and red weatherstripping...get the picture?
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Well, one hand hand, yeah! That's a great price compared to what I real shop would charge.
On the other hand, I would go to a real shop. I've never heard of a satisfied customer from Maaco, maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones and it wont be bad. Just be prepared for over spray and paint drips.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

How much is a usual shops price then? I don't want to be blowing 1200 on paint. -.-;

As for Maaco, I know they can do a poor job, though isnt that with the $299 package? The lowest you can go? I'm knocking mine up a bit, I might even go to stage 3, another 120 dollars.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

One of the custom shops around here quoted me around $2,200 for a metallic pearl white color. That was without doing door jams and under the hood. I've heard of people paying upwards to $4,000 for good paint jobs.

I'm not sure if it depends on the package. Just find some reviews on that specific shop. Maybe try to find some people who have been there and ask to see their cars.

I was going to take my old Accord to Maaco once. Same thing, everyone dogged it and told me to stay away. (This is probably 10 years ago now) They wanted $500 to do a half-assed rust fix and paint my car black. I kept the mentality of "As long as it's shiny and new looking, I can deal with over spray vs. my fading, cracked orange peeled look now.) I ended up painting it myself... and that's a drastic story for another time...

So I guess I'll close with this, if your current paint looks like ****. It's cracked, peeling, faded, ect. Then worse case scenario you get your car back, maybe not as perfect as you wanted, but probably better than the original. But if your paint is in near perfect condition and you're going to Maaco to achieve some "custom neon green metallic" job or something, then go to a shop that is guaranteed to do it right.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

The paint isn't bad, I have some cracking, and the gloss has worn away. I have a silver hood (car is red), and a black bumper though, so I figured it could use a new coat. I'm not looking for a custom sweet job, just an overall nice sand / respray. I would drop 2000 on it if I could but I'm in college, and paint is only one thing on a long list I still want to do.

Weatherstripping is going to get replaced eventually, so I'm not TOO worried about that, but it'd be nice to not have it look like child coloring outside the lines. I will ask around, and see what I come up with. I'll probably bump myself up to their 3rd stage plan, more $$, but hopefully it'll persuade them to not do such a sucky job. Mentality of that guy is paying $250, but this guy is paying $800, maybe we should be more careful. =p

Thanks though, I know now not to just run into it.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

I haven't read what anyone else has said... but this is my opinion.

Make sure that they do good work. I have seen some Maaco jobs that are great for the cost and then some... I have also seen horrible jobs that I could have done better with a rattle can.

I would ask them to see some of the cars they have just finished... one at least that was the same package you are buying.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

I really dont see how painting a car should be anymore then materials + 500 or so dollars.

Like a timing belt, I've seen quotes for 500, 700, 900 dollars to change. I did it with my and my father in an afternoon, not at any time did I see where changing this belt should be more then $200 labor at most, with professional shop tools.

I'm sorta feeling paint is the same way. Especially if you do it for a living, it should be like tieing your shoes. Mask, sand, spray. =/
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Macco's biggest downfall is their prep work. If you prep it yourself, it will probably be a pretty good job. Ask to see some other cars they've done and make sure to prep your own. I got black overspray on my freaking mirror!
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Yea, I'm not defending Maaco in all this, just trying to see where it's justified to drop thousands on a basic paint job hah.

I will do research, and call some local shops to see what their prices are. I would rather pay a self owned business to do it, because they're making the full lets say 600 dollars on it, not 15 dollars an hour as a worker, that sorta idea. But I wont go over 1000 for this, I'll buy a book, some tools and do it myself for that lol.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

maaco is like the advance auto/autozone of the bodyshop world. its just people they take off the street and give them a spray gun. and believe me, its a lot more worth it to get it professionally painted than maaco it. if youre strapped on cash, a shop can probably buff the car/paint those two body pieces for around the same price. its a lot better than spending $600+ on that, and then a couple years down the line pay even more to have that crap paint taken off and getting real paint on it
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its maaco you get what you pay for man if your just looking for a quick respray than yeah its a good cheap price id make sure they mask everything off correctly though or you will have a red radiator and red exaust and red body molding and red weatherstripping...get the picture?
I would NEVER bring my car to Maaco, but that's just me. You Get what you pay for!! There is a reason why body shops charge $1500 and up for the same job.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Maaco, please save your money, they are horrible, avoid their shop like a contegious disease!
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Painting a car i painting a car. The prep is where it counts. If u prep like sh1t ur gonna get sh1t work. Granted there are some paints that are better then others but like i siad (and others will agree) when painting a car the results come from good prep. Spend 300 on paint urself, rent a storage shed for amonth, and paint ur car. Not too difficult. Practice on small stuff 1st. keep a steady level hand and spray and ull be ok. Or go to a painter at maaco and offer himn money in his pocket to do it. Ull have to buy paint but still be better that way
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

I hadn't thought of pulling one of the workers away and talking to them.

Thanks for all the input guys, I wasn't going to do any of this till the 2nd week in Dec, or possibly when schools out, so I'll do some serious thinking / research. I guess I can stop crying about the price, I'm not cheaping on anything else, why should I on the paint. I'll probably double my budget to something around $1200-$1500, but with that I'd like the little dents taken out the door =p if I can be just a tiny bit picky.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

when it comes to ludes, you can never be to picky, i went to macco and asked to see one of there just finished cars, he showed me a car, it looked fine from a distance, i went closer and walked around the car, there was paint mist on one of the rims, and the rear bumper was bubbling and they oversprayed the hood(this was stage 2). im not bashing macco or anything but maybe stage 3 will be better or even stage 4 but if you want something that looks good up close id just get the dents taken out, a prep, and a respray of the whole car the same color but from a private shop(they usually take more pride in their work, but yea also make sure they masked everything so you dont have to drive around with 1 red rim bahaha hope i helped
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

This is what I would do. Buy a 20+ gal compressor for around $300 and then buy a spray gune for $80-130(For a descent/pro spray gun) and get some paint from the brand House of Kolor for $43.** for a quart, you'll need a gallon so times that times 4 and it's $176.00 in paint for either black or white. Other colors vary from $70-85 and mettalic are cheaper thier around $40.00 fora quart! And primer is around 70 for a gallon:) have any dents bondo it and lets say $40 bubucks max in tape, sanding blocks and paper sheetsto cover the inside of the car doors/interior and rims, radiator, and etc. Just make sher you get the right primer. If the color you get is dark get black primer if the color you want is light get white and if its inbetween get gray. I would do this because it's your car YOUR GONNA take your time, you want it to come out beautiful:! and you'll be able to say you did it yourself mos importantly:) YOU would be able to do other peoples, friends, famillys car for cheap and make $$$! AND the compressor has many other uses.... like air tools, nail gun, drill, etc. Hope I helped.

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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

save up and do it right. ul be happier with the finished product.
besides, ur car probably isnt finished being built, sooo u don't want to risk a good paint job getting scratched to Sh&t. my advise is save up and do it after.
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maaco is like the advance auto/autozone of the bodyshop world. its just people they take off the street and give them a spray gun. and believe me, its a lot more worth it to get it professionally painted than maaco it. if youre strapped on cash, a shop can probably buff the car/paint those two body pieces for around the same price. its a lot better than spending $600+ on that, and then a couple years down the line pay even more to have that crap paint taken off and getting real paint on it
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Was doing some research on Maaco last night and I've come to the conclusion that it must really depend on the shop and the paint package. One in Garden City, MI (about 30 minutes away from me) seems to have great reviews.

I found a couple bad ones from people who had the cheapest, $300 paint job. Basically seems that after 6 months of the cheap level it will flake off on you. There's a ton of positive reviews for the upper level paint job (in the $700-$1000 range) though. A said that after 2 or so years their paint was still strong and shiny.

This is a Camaro painted at it:


So if the place looks legit man, good reviews and cars coming out in person look good, then go for it. I'd drop $620 no problem if my car will look as good as the majority of the pictures I'm seeing.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

^^^^

What he said.

First off, are you done or near done building your car if you plan to? If not, skip it. Spend your money getting it to run and perform the way you want, then top it off with paint. The way I see it, paint is like icing on a cake. The last step, the final touch. To me there is no point having a really flashy, smooth, excellent looking paint job that will attract attention if the engine is on its last legs and you still need to do an engine or trans swap, etc.


And, once again...you get what you pay for. If you spend all the time, effort and money to turn your car into your dream car, and it performs exactly the way you want it, do you want the exterior looking like crap? No...you want it to be a banner, an advertisment of how proud you are that you own this car. When you are ready for paint/bodywork, spend the right kinda money at the right place and get something good.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

Thanks for all the help guys.

As for my stages in finishing things, I'm not done, but I'm nearing it. The other big project will be my exhaust / headers, but other then that, an intake, ecu, rims, interior modding..etc all are small projects.

I went to a few paint places today and got some quotes. A higher end guy wanted $2200 for good quality paint, but he does all the work himself. He suggested another guy in town that has a good rep, so I went to see him, and ended up with a $1400 dollar quote. I had mentioned I saw the other guy, they seem to be rivals, and right off the bat he changed his attitude a little. The $1400 includes a detailed prep, including stripping what is cracked, fixing / filling all the little dents and marks that'll show up with new paint, he'll replace my door weatherstripping and such, and take out the door handles to replace the seals around those.

He said they usually charge $1800 - $2200, but people today just aren't paying that, so he's brought his prices down. Unlike the other shop, he has (and I hope this doesn't offend anyone) Mexicans working with the cars. Which do excellent work, but are paid half of what anyone else would get paid (under the table), so the overall cost is down.

I want to ask him about the grade of paint he use's, the first guy we saw was a chemist and gave me and my pops a basic run down of different seals and clear coats..etc. Some last for 6 months, other's for a couple years.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

All in all, that's going to be my best bet. If I was really rolling out the money, I would go with honda, which quoted me $4500. But to be realistic about everything, I'm 19 and make roughly $270 a week washing dish's. =p I want the best for my car, but there's only so much I can do. Years down the road, when I'm out the college and all, I will still have my trusty lude (no matter what new car I pick up along the way), and thats when I can really make it a dream car. But as for right now I just want something nice to roll around in for a couple more years.
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

You may want to read my post about maaco.. Ive had good results from maaco but my last visit was terrible... Maaco Auto Painting & Bodyworks in Plano TX
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Not affended. We do cheap hard labor! haha
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Haha, thats the only way you can really put it Aced, but I know some people get touchy. My father owned a construction business in NY and had Mexicans working for him, I can tell you they busted their ass x5 more then anyone else I've seen, and my father was always good to them and vise versa. Cheap labor is just cheap labor, trick is cheap labor but good worksmanship. ;)
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Re: Paint quote, $620, pretty fair?

As for maaco, yea paying for stage 4 has good paint, but its the prep I'm now worried about. They dont want to touch the dents and dings, and take out the door handles..etc, with all that added it'll probably be around the same, or more then the shop I went to today.
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