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which one is lighter fiberglass or carbon fiber and is it worth the price difference, i am not going for the look of carbon fiber, it would be painted over, i just want to lighten my 92 lude up a bit.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

I reall don't see how that post is a fail, besides maybe being in the wong section. he asked a completely legit question. I wish I could answer I really don't know, I'd email the 2 companies and ask how heavy they're parts are.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

u should save the money by not painting it
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

he'd have to get t cleared anyway. and he hates the look. might as well throw in an extra 70 for paint
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

I understand not wanting the CF look. I think it's totally legit getting a CF hood and painting over it just to get the weight reduction. I believe CF is lighter and stronger than fiberglass. (not completely sure if that's fact or not)
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

Usually for the price difference the weight difference isn't worth it, but I don't think I have ever seen a fiberglass hood for Preludes. What all do you plan on replacing with carbonfiber/fiberglass to save weight exactly? If you are only going with a hood then I wouldn't waste the money.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

i am trying to get into the 9s in a 1/4 mile so the lighter the better. i want it to still be street legal and have the front passenger seat but i am getting rid of the back seat. i want to replace the trunk, hood, fenders and possibly look into the doors. i think carbon fiber is lighter also i will do some more research. i am just starting the build. . .
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has there been a prelude that even hit single digits?

i think that blue built 4th gen just pushes tens...
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

They make a Carbon Fiber, Fiber Glass, Polyurethane and teh stock material for the Preludes. as for durability, Carbon fiber is stronger the fiberglass. I think the Fiberglass will most likely warp way before a carbon fiber hood. Now the polyurethane material is the same material they use for the lip kit from wings west. Its what my hood is made out of. I would say its the strongest out of the 3 but fiberglass is probably the lightest. Go for best of both worlds and go with CF.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

Well I hope you have lots more dollars then you do since (and no I did not type that wrong)

It is going to cost you thousands to get a streetable car in the 9's.
Ask Tommy "LilBlueLUde" on here, how much he has put into his.
He has the only 3rd gen I know of (personally) that breaks into the 10's

All he does is slap on some slicks at the track and some radials for the
roadtrip home. How many H22 powered 3rd gens do you know of laying
down almost 700hp. and still get to drive on the streets.

Good luck !!! And CF is lighter then FG. Depending on how many layers and
how much resin has been added. CF is also stringer than FG, why do you think
so many of the exotic cars and some of the Aircraft the military use it?
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

Don't take this the wrong way, it's just a suggestion

but if you want a vehicle that breaks into the 9's may I suggest looking for something else you can make into a dedicated track car (and something that would be more... designed for that kind of racing)

It's going to take massive amounts of money to get a Lude into the 9's and it won't be fun to have as a daily driver at that point.

Imho the Lude is more of a cruiser, great for having as a daily driver and going out and enjoying some nice country roads, maybe having some fun in the corners (specially at the track :P) and not as much a drag car.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

carbon fiber if you dont cut the fg and resin it
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

I'm almost positive ur going to need a roll cage in ur car to reach 9's. And anything @ a certain speed (not sure what exactlı) needs a parachute. So a 9 second street car is a lil unrealistic. 11's maybe 10s @ best for street use. Anyways c/f is stronger and lighter. Also there are a plethera of c/f part (IE fenders hoods trunk etc) out there so wieght reduction w/enough money wouldn't be that hard. Word to Şhe wise however...if u c/f ur entire car ur gonna have to be crazy careful. My buddy had an 89 240sx that was completely c/f. Someone hit him n the car pretty much exploded. Complete rebuild. For ur project ur lookin @ lots of research and lots of $$$$$$. My personal opinion is if u have enough money to play w/anyways y not street one and track another. Way mor cost effective as well as more reasonable. Best of luck
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i am trying to get into the 9s in a 1/4 mile so the lighter the better. i want it to still be street legal and have the front passenger seat but i am getting rid of the back seat. i want to replace the trunk, hood, fenders and possibly look into the doors. i think carbon fiber is lighter also i will do some more research. i am just starting the build. . .
CF hood, fenders and doors won't still be street legal. They change the way the car's crumple zones react to impact. Proper cf is very light and very strong, however I don't think I've seen a full cf hood for a Prelude, all the ones I've ever seen (both in person and on the various forums) are cf with a fibreglass frame. You just lost your weight advantage.

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but if you want a vehicle that breaks into the 9's may I suggest looking for something else you can make into a dedicated track car (and something that would be more... designed for that kind of racing)

It's going to take massive amounts of money to get a Lude into the 9's and it won't be fun to have as a daily driver at that point.
This is more than a valid point. Ive seen it a lot - member joins, starts to plan their build, generally they get about half way through it and realise that it will take way more money than they have/are willing to spend to get the car where they want it, then they sell the car and all the parts at about fifty cents in the dollar, and spend the rest of thier lives whinging about how crap a car the Prelude is and how people on Prelude boards are useless. I'd rather stop you before you start than see this again - it annoys the hell outta me.

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Yes, while I'm not 100% sure on the regs over your side of the world (check NHRA.com) it's more than likely you'll need at least a half (4 point) roll cage. And to run 9s, you'll be going around 135-140mph, and will def need a parachute.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

my car wont be a daily driver but would like to drive like on the weekends. i thought that 9s might be pushing it but im hopeful. i was going to buy a jg pro series h22a v-tec block, je pistons, saenz rods, jg pro series big valve head, use the stock cams, dfi fuel management, 1100cc injectors, a custom intake manifold and a xs engineering turbo. which pushes 668 hp and 497 flbs torque with 22psi boost. i figured reduce as much weight as i can within reason and add nos and might be able to get it into the 9s. . . ? you dont think so?
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

Like most of us have said anythings possible w/enough money. But I would seriously consider buildin one for just track use n havin another boosted or otherwise street car w/some decent hp. Its not gonna be hard to spot a 9 second car on the streets. Cops would have a field day w/u lol.
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my car wont be a daily driver but would like to drive like on the weekends. i thought that 9s might be pushing it but im hopeful. i was going to buy a jg pro series h22a v-tec block, je pistons, saenz rods, jg pro series big valve head, use the stock cams, dfi fuel management, 1100cc injectors, a custom intake manifold and a xs engineering turbo. which pushes 668 hp and 497 flbs torque with 22psi boost. i figured reduce as much weight as i can within reason and add nos and might be able to get it into the 9s. . . ? you dont think so?
XS Engineering turbo ? > you serious .. ???
and stock cams ??
You obviously don't know what you are doing .. research more.
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considering we have a member with 700+ HP (634whp) with stock cams, looks like he's doing good research
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Money not spent right .. poor choice on turbo, and i still feel that anything over 500whp on the H and you benifit from aftermarket cams
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Y'all need to cut him some slack. Let him do what he wants to HIS car. I hated when people told me it can't be done. Case and point before I got rid of my baby a 96 Ram people told me I was a retard for trying to push a 2 ton truck into the 11s. Then I proved them wrong and pushed it into the tens and then very high nines. Granted I did a lot of wieght reduction and it had 1003 horsies on tap. But I still did it. And yes anything sub tens needs a full cage and chute. Along with a 5 point or better restraint system. As far as streetability mine definately was not. I wouldn't recommend your prelude build as a street and strip warrior.Try to pick either or. But you do what you want it is yours afterall is said and done
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i personally have worked with fiberglass and c/f and i can say that thier are full c/f parts. i and my buddy in fact make them. recently made a c/f trunk for the 3g lude. he unfortuantly didnt take any pictures of it. I can also say that carbon kevlar mix is alot stronger than fiberglass but you also have a lil bit more wieght to it cause the kevlar. The other diff is whether or not you have the race rib done under the hood or you have the stock ribbing done.But i do have to compleatly agree with heartsquad.
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Re: carbon fiber or fiberglass?

i believe that the carbon fiber is the lightest thing you can get and most durable. it does cost a pretty penny, but well worth it if im correct a carbon fiber hood for a prelude is around 10-15 pounds and can range anywhere between 300 and 700 dollars.
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