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VHT 4th Gen Error!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!

Hey Guys, so I dicided to get me a pair or clear lights and smoke them with VHT 3 week ago.. the result came out good and resonable.. but unfortunatly during the clear coat I had some dust and hair come on them, I still put them on and used them but here's the problem..

here's what they looks before..




After now 3 weeks I had some time in my hands so I dicided to sand some of the error down and put 2 more coats of VHT... but this time it very light and after I put 2 clear coats last night Today the result looks hideous..

The smoked lights look kinda whitish.. they are supposed to appear as black but they appear like a extra white layer on top of them, whys that? its clear coat, should be clear ...

this is what it looks like now -







Now what should I do should I use rubbing alchol and polish them ?

Or Should I just spray some more VHT on them (?)

Do I need to start all over?
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Re: VHT 4th Gen Error!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!

somebody help me out, how do i get this real milky white off and get the black look back?
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Re: VHT 4th Gen Error!!!!!!!!!! HELP!!

Its your clear bro. It was probably too humid out when you sprayed it. ( I'm assuming this from my experiences with clear and Florida weather, so I could be wrong but I'd put money on that.)

Sand em down and paint them in a proper environment.Oh and make sure you follow proper spraying procedures( I.E. I would wait until the VHT is dried completely before throwing clear on there....


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just put your stockies back on...
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that is a exact replica of my car...though i sprayed mine w night shade and cleared them...they look real good when there done...just take it off and try again...mine are soo dark though...illigally dark..

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somebody help me out, how do i get this real milky white off and get the black look back?
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heres the deal.

you dont have to start over. you never do when using paint like this. and you typically can't. when you use paint thinners(acteone) to get the used paint off it usually is too abrasive with the actual plastic covering on the light

heres what you need to do. (keep in mind what you're about to do is going to fix it but the you won't be able to go back to the orig light. b/c it will be more permanent.

to remove the "white" appearance from the clear coat:

1. wetsand down the clear coat using sand paper with a grit of 1000-2000 sandpaper. sand in order of numbers 1K-1500-2000 etc.----WHAT IS WETSANDING. take the sandpaper, soak it with water. keep dipping the sandpaper in the water as you sand down the tail light. it helps with smoothness of the light, and preps the light for paint.

2. wash off all excess paint/dirt you get from sanding. you should be left with some of the black VHT spray left on the light but no clear.it's ok if some of the VHT came off with sanding as long as the light is super smooth. the light should be smooth to the touch. after you get to the 2000 grit sandpaper.

3. you are prepped for a re-spray! take the VHT nightshade spray, hold it back from each light as you spray and let the paint "fall" on the light. wait 5 min before each coat. and the black will start to build up and become darker.

4.after all black coats have been done. wait at least 2 hours before clear.

5. spray your clear coat. i recommed HIGH HEAT CLEAR ENGINE ENAMEL. simply b/c your clear will be exposed to sun continuously in the summer. and it provides a deep clear w/o the white discoloration.

this is the patient part. LESS IS MORE. spray the clear on. wait 5 min b/t coats. let the paint fall on the light. but DONT LET IT BUILD UP TOO MUCH. thats where the white look comes in. if it's humid outside. try to wait until it cools down. the more coats of clear the more build up of clear you will have and the deeper the look will be on the lights. dont just spary a bunch of clear all at once!

7.once your clear is sprayed. let it sit over night. go back with 2000 grit sandpaper and wet sand the light again! dont be too rough! just lightly sand the clear you sprayed. this will even things out. trust me you won't scuff the paint up.

8. if needed, re-spray 2 more coats of clear after sanding.

9 once the paint is fully cured. take a POLISH. I.E zymol WAX/spray detail from MEGUIARS.--- polish the light itself and it will make your actual light really shine. the clear will look deeper than ever!

WET SAND-SPRAY-CLEAR-WET SAND-SPRAY AGAIN-CURE-POLISH!~

hope this helps!
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heres the deal.

you dont have to start over. you never do when using paint like this. and you typically can't. when you use paint thinners(acteone) to get the used paint off it usually is too abrasive with the actual plastic covering on the light

heres what you need to do. (keep in mind what you're about to do is going to fix it but the you won't be able to go back to the orig light. b/c it will be more permanent.

to remove the "white" appearance from the clear coat:

1. wetsand down the clear coat using sand paper with a grit of 1000-2000 sandpaper. sand in order of numbers 1K-1500-2000 etc.----WHAT IS WETSANDING. take the sandpaper, soak it with water. keep dipping the sandpaper in the water as you sand down the tail light. it helps with smoothness of the light, and preps the light for paint.

2. wash off all excess paint/dirt you get from sanding. you should be left with some of the black VHT spray left on the light but no clear.it's ok if some of the VHT came off with sanding as long as the light is super smooth. the light should be smooth to the touch. after you get to the 2000 grit sandpaper.

3. you are prepped for a re-spray! take the VHT nightshade spray, hold it back from each light as you spray and let the paint "fall" on the light. wait 5 min before each coat. and the black will start to build up and become darker.

4.after all black coats have been done. wait at least 2 hours before clear.

5. spray your clear coat. i recommed HIGH HEAT CLEAR ENGINE ENAMEL. simply b/c your clear will be exposed to sun continuously in the summer. and it provides a deep clear w/o the white discoloration.

this is the patient part. LESS IS MORE. spray the clear on. wait 5 min b/t coats. let the paint fall on the light. but DONT LET IT BUILD UP TOO MUCH. thats where the white look comes in. if it's humid outside. try to wait until it cools down. the more coats of clear the more build up of clear you will have and the deeper the look will be on the lights. dont just spary a bunch of clear all at once!

7.once your clear is sprayed. let it sit over night. go back with 2000 grit sandpaper and wet sand the light again! dont be too rough! just lightly sand the clear you sprayed. this will even things out. trust me you won't scuff the paint up.

8. if needed, re-spray 2 more coats of clear after sanding.

9 once the paint is fully cured. take a POLISH. I.E zymol WAX/spray detail from MEGUIARS.--- polish the light itself and it will make your actual light really shine. the clear will look deeper than ever!

WET SAND-SPRAY-CLEAR-WET SAND-SPRAY AGAIN-CURE-POLISH!~

hope this helps!
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I guess I'm not the only one to rep him on this one.

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heres the deal.

you dont have to start over. you never do when using paint like this. and you typically can't. when you use paint thinners(acteone) to get the used paint off it usually is too abrasive with the actual plastic covering on the light

heres what you need to do. (keep in mind what you're about to do is going to fix it but the you won't be able to go back to the orig light. b/c it will be more permanent.

to remove the "white" appearance from the clear coat:

1. wetsand down the clear coat using sand paper with a grit of 1000-2000 sandpaper. sand in order of numbers 1K-1500-2000 etc.----WHAT IS WETSANDING. take the sandpaper, soak it with water. keep dipping the sandpaper in the water as you sand down the tail light. it helps with smoothness of the light, and preps the light for paint.

2. wash off all excess paint/dirt you get from sanding. you should be left with some of the black VHT spray left on the light but no clear.it's ok if some of the VHT came off with sanding as long as the light is super smooth. the light should be smooth to the touch. after you get to the 2000 grit sandpaper.

3. you are prepped for a re-spray! take the VHT nightshade spray, hold it back from each light as you spray and let the paint "fall" on the light. wait 5 min before each coat. and the black will start to build up and become darker.

4.after all black coats have been done. wait at least 2 hours before clear.

5. spray your clear coat. i recommed HIGH HEAT CLEAR ENGINE ENAMEL. simply b/c your clear will be exposed to sun continuously in the summer. and it provides a deep clear w/o the white discoloration.

this is the patient part. LESS IS MORE. spray the clear on. wait 5 min b/t coats. let the paint fall on the light. but DONT LET IT BUILD UP TOO MUCH. thats where the white look comes in. if it's humid outside. try to wait until it cools down. the more coats of clear the more build up of clear you will have and the deeper the look will be on the lights. dont just spary a bunch of clear all at once!

7.once your clear is sprayed. let it sit over night. go back with 2000 grit sandpaper and wet sand the light again! dont be too rough! just lightly sand the clear you sprayed. this will even things out. trust me you won't scuff the paint up.

8. if needed, re-spray 2 more coats of clear after sanding.

9 once the paint is fully cured. take a POLISH. I.E zymol WAX/spray detail from MEGUIARS.--- polish the light itself and it will make your actual light really shine. the clear will look deeper than ever!

WET SAND-SPRAY-CLEAR-WET SAND-SPRAY AGAIN-CURE-POLISH!~

hope this helps!
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thats exactly what I needed... Thanks man :)
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thanks dooods...smoked enough lights in my lifetime haha..

and yes if you use this method on pretty much anything that you want to spray
(just don't start doing interior parts those never look good!!)
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