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Old 03-26-2010, 02:04 PM
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Absolutely sick man. Your rollin VIP for real now.
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

awesome read! one of the first things i have read on here and it is truly an amazing read!

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wow that was one of the best read on pz. nice!
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

Wow. After reading all of your thread, I am very, very impressed. The amount of time and money you've thrown into your car shows how much you really, really care about it, and im proud to say that I live in the same state as you :) Hahaha. Seriously, props man. You've lived out my dreams, which is to do whatever you want to do to a car, and do it with care, and have fun while doing it! Lol. Seriously ^5. You earned it.
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man it was an honor meeting you i just wish i could have seen your car in person hope you check out my rebuild but when you said are you familiar with the best prelude in the world thread i was like no f***kin way lol but thanks for the compliments man and im sure you get plenty of compliments but hope to see you at the meet this comin up fridaya nd saturday! small world after all deffinitly an inspiration man bc ppl look at yours and see more than just a hobby they see love and passion great work man
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

hey man, thanks again for the kind words, it was great to meet you too. As you know, I don't get on PZ much, but I do want to bring the car to Virginia with me as soon as possible! I'm still on the lookout for any car scenes near Richmond, but our little get togethers in Chester still are fun. Let me know where you're at this Saturday!
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

allright man sounds good just give me a call man and ill let you know where there at and if its a good turn out or not but just give me a call about these hood dampers man they are givin me a pain in the ace lol but just hit me up man peace
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

wow. can you teach me how to do all that..........you're from MIT?
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Gorgeous car man, even the TL is pretty sweet!
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wow amazing ride man
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

Amazing, well worth the hour I spent reading that post. Just amazing.
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

nice frickin car i cant believe i spent 2 hours reading the whole thing haha
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

AWWw man ur in ohio I WOULD LOVE to see Your prelude in person
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

cleanest prelude ive seen thus far
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

Although its a slightly older thread that some newbs dragged up, I read the original post and I have to say I'm blown away. Very nice looking ride.


Needs more powah though.
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

Just looking at your lude makes me feel like im cheating on my girlfriend!! but i dont care1! haha very nice man you put a lot of time, tears, money, blood and sweeat into your car.. And o yeah thanks for your service!!
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

this is the best thread ive ever read on any forum. i know its been a while but are there any updates?? keep the stories coming!!!
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There won't be any updates to come until the end of may when my dad brings the car out to Colorado springs where I'm at. Then I promise I'll start having more updates for you all!
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

Do you live in the springs? Im about to be stationed there here in about a month.
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Yeah, I live in Colorado Springs now. The prelude is not out here with me yet, but will be in May. Then I hope to find the car scene and go to some cruise nights and meets. Also, I have to get a picture of it on Pike's Peak, that's a must.
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

Wow! It's really the best of the best! :)
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Re: The Best Prelude in the World

I know this is SUPER old but, I can honestly say I sat down and read 98% of this thread. By FARR my favorite lude. Good job. You gave me a few ideas on mod's lol
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The last time I had any significant update on my car was when I drove it from El Paso, TX to Ohio a week before I was to deploy to Iraq (April, 2009). The car would be in good hands with my parents in the shelter of their garage and would be there for when I came back. My wife moved to Tennessee in August of that year because we both tried to predict that would be my next duty station after I came back and after I went to Captains Career Course (a 5 month course) in 2010.

Well, those predictions went to hell.

I succumbed to the allure of the new 2010 Acura TL on midtour leave in December of 2009. It was my first car (although we had purchased a 2009 Accord for my wife a year prior) and I was so happy with it. It seemed to match the performance of the Prelude and was so comfortable and had more tech than I could ever hope for. The Prelude seemed to be on the backburner. Part of the reason was the endless gremlins that still existed with the car. The distributor was on its last legs on my journey home and was basically no good. This made me also assume the tune wasn't good anymore because the car didn't seem to have any balls. I also hypothesized the lower altitude of Ohio, coupled with better 93 octane gas, was making it this way. The styling of the outside of the Prelude was even more of a disaster. I had mismatching side skirts (one fell off a week after painting and installing both), headlights that were so poorly fitted, that they illuminated signs half a mile up the road, a bumper and front lip that were pock-marked with rock chips mainly due to the 2000 mile road trip from El Paso to Ohio and an interior which was still nice, but needed some addressing.

So by February of 2010, I scraped some money together in Iraq and had my dad replace the distributor with some help from Honda Bob. Bob and I worked out a deal where he would drive down from Elyria and help dad replace the distributor (which is so finicky, it will sometimes throw a CEL because it throws the timing off). After they replaced it, Bob would street tune it on the way up to a tuning shop he was working for at the time in Elyria and then strap it on a dyno for some good top end tuning.

The tuning didn't go so well and it ended up turning the rolers at something like 224 WHP and 180 WTQ. Those are well below the numbers that we got in El Paso (230WHP, 200WTQ), so that made me and everyone else involved slightly discouraged. But the engine was sound again.

When I came home in April 2010, I remained in El Paso for 3 more months unable to really do anything on the Prelude in Ohio. The only real thing I did was get the oil replaced (it had been setting for a year) and give it a wash.

I went to Virginia in late July 2010 and stayed until December 2010. During that time, I found time to do some upgrades on my TL, but the Prelude never made it out. I did find a small import scene in Virginia, but age suddenly shown it's old head at me as I realized I was almost 5-8 years older than most of the kids with tuner cars. A guy with a $40,000 TL isn't exactly going to make waves in a sea of kids with $1000 Civic fixer-uppers.

I returned to Ohio for 3 weeks before moving out to Colorado Springs in January 2011. There wasn't much I could do to the Prelude during that time because it was too cold out and I didn't have the funds. I did manage to obtain a new set of side skirts (Electron Blue color) and help my dad get the radiator out of the car, you may have remembered it looking like this...



But after some planning, my dad and I went to a local welder who managed to weld in a 90 degree fitting which enabled us to run a much cleaner hose, not to mention, finally ditching that ugly stainless steel hose that I received so many negative comments on :laugh: I think you'll agree, the transformation was worth it...



My dad also is currently working on a project involving my old valve cover with some -12AN bungs welded in it to make a kick-ass crankcase breather system, but more on that later...

My dad also found the culprit behind some of the insane engine-bucking that he witnessed on the dyno. I witnessed it first hand in a couple of *ahem* necessary clutch dumps when I noticed the front wheels seemed to be hopping off of the ground while scrambling for traction. He found it all when we had taken the radiator out of the car, it was a broken front engine mount!



So he replaced it for me, and in the meantime, found that when Honda Bob had put in the new motor, he must have forgotten one out of the three bolts that bolted it to the subframe. So my dad went parts-shopping on the wrecked '91 Accord still in the driveway and found that Honda still used the same style bolt for the engine mount in both instances. Now my car has a new front engine mount with all three bolts!



Anyway, by time April came around, the plan was in place for me to retake ownership of the Prelude. The wait had been a long time coming, as it was now over 2 years since it was truly in my possession. The plan was for me to come home on a 4-day weekend that the Army gives me for Memorial Day, do some paperwork switcheroo's, finish putting the car back together, and drive like a bat out of hell back to Colorado Springs to make it to work on Tuesday morning. My dad was not into the plan as was the rest of my family. My dad worried that we wouldn't have enough time to work on the car and it could break down, my family from my mom to my grandparents were concerned not only with the 1300 mile trip, but also with the recent tornadoes that decimated areas near where I was driving through (for future readers, this was one week after the massive damage in Joplin, MO).

But the trip was on, upon landing on Friday afternoon, the paperwork issues were taken care of, new plates were strapped on the car and it was time to get our hands dirty. First things first, I quickly took off the old side skirts (I had an SH on the passengers side and my hand-painted accessory sides skirt on the drivers) and put on the new side skirts with new hardware, making sure to properly bolt down everything!


How it looked when I arrived:


Taking off the old side skirts:


On with the new!




Next came the bumper and front lip. My dad had already attached the front lip, so now we needed to hook up all the lights again.




But before the front bumper could go on, you may remember my ill-fitting Depo Headlights. Depo Headlights are not straight up bolt-on affairs. They required us to actually redrill all 3 metal mounting hole areas to get the precise fit that so many of you made fun of me for :D

My dad in full swing with drilling the metal. I held the headlight at the exact position needed to make sure it didn't have unsightly gaps:


And you be the judge, but when the headlights were installed correctly and the bumper was lined up, everything seemed to look pretty good! You'll have to ignore the painters tape, it is the "poor-mans bra" that was going to protect my new paint for those 1300 miles to Colorado!

All taped up and ready to go!


Shortly after that, it was time for me to re-learn how to change out the supercharger belt in case the inevitable happened. A snapped belt always sucks in this thing and changing them can be a real b!tch. My dad found a flaw in the original design where only two steel bolts were bolting into an aluminum backing plate. Needless to say (and without naming names), the plate eventually became cross-threaded and needed to be re-tapped. My dad has a tap and die kit, so he not only improved the original threads, but added two more of his own. Now this puppy ain't going nowhere!



The supercharger belt also needed replaced badly, as is evidenced by all the ribs missing off of it, I don't know how this thing kept running to be honest!



In the late afternoon, there was a buzzing noise overhead that drowned out the sound of my mom vaccuming out the car and caused her dogs to go into a frenzy. As we looked up, we noticed a good luck symbol that would surely mean a safe trip to Colorado, the Goodyear Blimp was flying over us!





With those major items out of the way, it was finally Saturday Night. The car still hadn't been loaded and the last thing to do mechanically, was give it an oil change. It had Royal Purple in it that had only 500 miles on it, but had been setting in the crankcase for over a year, so it was time to give it a new K&N oil filter and 5.5 quarts of Penzoil Ultra 10W-30. I'm pretty sold on this new oil, although I do plan on returning to Royal Purple in the future. But in terms of easiest high performance oil to find on the trip, if need be, I went with the Penzoil over the Royal Purple.

One more thing to note is that I haven't had a working Defi Oil Temperature gauge since my CPK sensor got ripped out in March 2009. It took the Defi Oil Temperature sender wires right with it. The sensor had to be replaced, and so did the cable, as it was later shredded to bits when the supercharger belt blew and slashed it some more in that same year. So I rewired in a new Defi 8 foot long wire from the control box into the engine bay...



threading the new wire down to the underside of the car...


...and took the old oil drain plug that Honda Bob drilled out and tapped, and took the old plug out and put in the new sensor...







That night, a bad omen took place when my wife had went inside to finish up some car insurance documents online when she fell down the stairs and got a sprained ankle. It put me in between a rock and a hard place knowing that she was immobilized and yet I was scheduled to leave in the morning. That night, I stayed with her as much as I could and knew that I would have to finish packing the car in the morning...

When the morning came, I helped her downstairs where she observed the packing of the car process. It went as fast as I could make it, and I had wanted to be on the road by 9:00AM, but once everything was done, it was already 10:30. She encouraged me to go and said everything would be fine, so I prepped the car with a couple more strips of blue tape, took a photo op, and was off!





The last shot before I climbed into the Prelude and was off. A fond fairwell from my dad who helped make this day possible with all of his work.




As I got on the road, the car seemed to be in good working order, or as good as you can get with a tuned car. There was no cruise control, the passenger side window relay switch blew the night before, and it was so bogged down with tools and stuff that I could hear the rear tires scrape the inner fender well everytime I hit a mild bump. My goal on day 1 was to reach Kansas City (700 miles) and then go the remaining 600 miles the next day. A few hours into it, I bid adeu to my home state with the Prelude and remembered back fondly on the previous trips in 2005 (to Maryland), 2006 (to El Paso), 2008 (El Paso again) and now 2001 (to Colorado) for yet another chapter in the saga of the Prelude. Who knows what adventures and modifications its in for out West again? Only time will tell. But for now, owner is reunited with Prelude and the future is still very bright!

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So to finish where the story left off, the trip went very well. I managed to reach Kansas City at the end of Day 1 and after a good night of sleep, finished the rest of my drive the next day. The 2nd day of driving saw tremendous winds across Kansas that forced me to keep my steering wheel always turned into the wind for a majority of the ride. When the wind had let up, I noticed the steering wheel was now staying at a half-cocked position for the wheels to go straight. It wasn't as bad as it could've been driving the damn thing, so I decided to continue on. But when I stopped for gas one last time with 70 miles to go, it became abundantly clear that the rear end was acting like a whole different animal than the front. The car needed an alignment badly, but pulling up to the house that night, it wasn't priority in my mind. I just wanted to unpack the damn thing and then give it a good wash so that it was presentable to a handful of friends that knew I was driving it out and wanted to see it the next day.

Finally at home! (note the 2"x4"'s in the background that I had to use to clear the rain gutter in front of our house)


The painters tape did it's job!


And finally, to clean it and put it away for the night!




The next day, I had some time before work so I put the Recaro driver's seat back in (story on that to follow) and swept it out. I was immediately reminded that the car needed an alignment as I drove it down the road, so I gave a call to Firestone to buy their lifetime alignment plan. I have this on my TL and so far, it's paid for itself, so I figure the Prelude is going to be no different.

Little did I know exactly what kind of damage the bad alignment had done on my car until we got it up on the ramp... I had completely balded the rear tires with the out-of-whack toe! I was shocked to see this and now I'm pretty pissed off that I have to get two new rear tires for the car (the front are fine) after I had only put 5,000 miles on these! I will go back to Discount Tire to see if they can do anything for me, but the car might have to be shelved until I can afford replacements. I know that Falken does not make the old 615's anymore, so now I'll probably have to get 615K's as a replacement. :(



So the Prelude has a couple issues that need to be addressed and I'm already seeing dollar signs. It appears as if the curse has followed me this whole way. So the direction of this thread will probably be to get multiple issues fixed before any new goodies get added on (harnesses, LSD tranny, wire tuck, etc). But as always, stay tuned because updates will at least be much more frequent than the past two years!
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how did you not notice the tire wear? really? the tire shop will not do anything for you. you are lowered, and didnt rotate or align. good luck, but damn, thats your own fault.

i align and rotate with every oil change.
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dang man..... you just reminded me... i need to go to Firestone for an alignment. Your lude looks so clean though nom nom nom!!!
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Old 06-02-2011, 07:37 PM
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how did you not notice the tire wear? really? the tire shop will not do anything for you. you are lowered, and didnt rotate or align. good luck, but damn, thats your own fault.

i align and rotate with every oil change.
Do you know what the definition of a "monday morning quarterback" is?

I like how you assume you know the situation. First of all, the only time I really realized I had a problem was when I last stopped for gas which was 70 miles out from my home. That is when the car was acting like two separate pieces. Second of all, the tires only have 5,000 miles on them. They've been driven that little in the almost 3 years I've owned them. Discount Tire recommends you rotate them every 5-6,000 miles. Whatever you do on your own is your own opinion, but that's where I bought them from so I can hold them to that. Secondly, I bought the tire replacement program for $15 a wheel from Discount Tire, so that also puts me on the right track to getting those replaced for free or no cost (they're currently checking into what I can get for it, so more on that later).

Also, the car was aligned prior to leaving Ohio, but in case you didn't read the part where I said I would be driving on a Sunday and on a National Holiday, the average reader would assume that many tire chains/alignment centers would not be open on those days. So if something happened I would have to make the call to either get charged leave to sit in a podunk town until they opened on a Tuesday (ever driven between Topeka, Kansas and Colorado Springs Colorado? There aren't any big towns around) or to keep driving. So I kept driving.

So in summary, it's always the drivers fault if something happens to the car, but in my case, I at least had the foresight to plan ahead and buy the warranty/replacement plan on those tires as well as following the maintenance regimene on the tires.

And what was your comment about my car being lowered? So what? I do not run my wheels "hellaflush" like others, but instead have adjustable ball joints in my upper control arms so that it negates any argument that my wheels weren't sitting in the upright position like they were from the factory. My car is just lower to the ground is all.
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wow, no wonder you are disliked on almost every forum. you sure come off like a douchebag.

i never assumed anything, nor came off as a dick, or a monday morning qb. i asked you a question. period. dont get all butt hurt when someone asks you something. all i said was how did you not notice the tire wear. plus, the tire replacement program, i believe, is not valid for 3 years. i have the firestone package, and it has a mileage/time period limit.

also, you seem to love to hear(or see) yourself talk, alot. so no, i didnt go through all 5 pages and read your boring story. whoop-ti-do.

what about the comment about being lowered was hard to understand? you are lowered. which changes the geometry of your suspension. which in case, you need to do an alignment.

yeah, i change my oil every 5k, so i also align and rotate.

i have no beef with you, just dont understand why you are acting the way you are over a simple question. but in all honesty, i can see why so many people dislike from the way you come off.


ps. since you acted like a child, you really should fix your bumper sag if you really think you have the best prelude in the world, but really far from.

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wow, no wonder you are disliked on almost every forum. you sure come off like a douchebag.

i never assumed anything, nor came off as a dick, or a monday morning qb. i asked you a question. period. dont get all butt hurt when someone asks you something. all i said was how did you not notice the tire wear. plus, the tire replacement program, i believe, is not valid for 3 years. i have the firestone package, and it has a mileage/time period limit.

also, you seem to love to hear(or see) yourself talk, alot. so no, i didnt go through all 5 pages and read your boring story. whoop-ti-do.

what about the comment about being lowered was hard to understand? you are lowered. which changes the geometry of your suspension. which in case, you need to do an alignment.

yeah, i change my oil every 5k, so i also align and rotate.

i have no beef with you, just dont understand why you are acting the way you are over a simple question. but in all honesty, i can see why so many people dislike from the way you come off.


ps. since you acted like a child, you really should fix your bumper sag if you really think you have the best prelude in the world, but really far from.
Wow dude, you're a complete douchebag! I like at the end how you say I've acted like a child, but in all actuality, you did. You even took the time to send me a wall message that says "douche."

Your arguments are so flawed in every way that I'm amazed you even took the time to respond at all.

From what I see, you're a jealous little punk who would take the time to look at updates on my build thread, then accuse me of talking about myself? It's a ****ing build thread man, who else am I supposed to talk about? People don't write autobiographies and never mention themselves. And to top it off, you mention bumper sag seemingly as grounds that it somehow negates all of the things I've done to my car. Way to go.

By the way, on my receipt for the tires from DiscountTire, it plainly says I the replacement plan is good for 3 years, so you can't compare it to your Firestone warranty. I'm within the warranty and everything is good to go.

And one last thing, get off the "lowered" high horse. When my car was lowered, it immediately got an alignment and received an alignment every 3 months when the car was still being daily driven. A person like me doesn't cut springs and call it a day; I got coilovers, adjustable upper ball joints all around and even new adjustable lower control arms all put on at the same time. Most people wouldn't ever go through that hassle, but I didn't cut corners.

I'm sure more douchebaggery will follow from BigLegs now...
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Hey! A couple of pics I see that car is dirty! I better never seen that lude dirty again! LOL Car looking nice and clean in the garage. Keep up the good work.
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