aem f/ic

[t4lude98]

i was wondering if anyone is using this and how its working out.

[twokexlv6coupe]

a what? :confused:

[t4lude98]

aem fuel and ignition controller, piggyback

[twokexlv6coupe]

any sort of piggyback tuning system isn't the best when it comes to tuning for turbo, because its only tricking the ECU into thinking its getting different readings.

if your spending all that dough on going forced induction, just get a good reliable tuning system, like a chipped ECU, and GET IT TUNED!!

[Preludeshalyn]

the aem f/ic is different than most piggybacks though, insted of taking the signals from the sensors and altering them before it sends them to the ECU, it takes the signals from the ECU and adds or subtracts a presentage (baced on a preset map) and sends the new signal to the fuel pump and ignition.
it's the best option for our cars when you are in the situation where you are forced to use a piggyback. like you want to keep your ATTS for example. results in fewer engine codes and the car won't "untune" itself like with other piggybacks.

[Drew]

listen to neck, he knows his ****. he's blown enough motors to know how to do it right now.. either way, its still based on a preset map. which is stupid to run in the first place. they are FAR from perfect. every setup is different so preset maps wont work for every setup. you cant expect a preset map to work for a long time for that matter. you cannot beat a chipped and tuned ECU. its the safest and most reliable way to go. especially with forced induction, you don't want to go the cheep way out.

[t4lude98]

its not a preset map is tunable with fuel and ignition maps via the laptop and it also works with the aem ugeo

[twokexlv6coupe]

hmm nvm then. im gonna stop talking about stuff i know nothing about :tape2:
i wanna do some research on it tho, i'll let ya know.

[t4lude98]

nobody knows anything about this?

[ImPorTuNeRdJ]

bro, listen to nick, would you rather your car just http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/bf_fail.jpg on you out of no where, or would you rather have a tuned ECU that reliable, and no it won't **** out on you

[t4lude98]

well obviously nobody has done any research one this device check out the aempower fourms and then get back to me i think its am amazing piggyback

[twokexlv6coupe]

Seriously, I know NOTHING about tuning softwares and ish. This might be a pretty safe and reliable alternative to a chipped ECU or a full standalone, but it might not be as well. Since PreludeZone is a VERY new forum, we dont have as much info as other sites such as Honda-Tech that has been around for prolly about 15-20 years.

[t4lude98]

the f/ic is also very new

[twokexlv6coupe]

yea idk how comfortable i would feel using a brand new system for the MOST important part of the car.
i'll stick to the tried and true systems :thumb:

but if you do end up going this route, let us know how it goes, i'm intrigued.

[t4lude98]

http://tunertools.com/prodimages/AEM/manual/10-191_FIC_Tuning_Tips_for_30-1910.pdf
http://tunertools.com/prodimages/AEM/manual/10-1910_instructions_for_30-1910_FIC.pdf
well i have this installed and running but i am getting a p1399 and i am wondering if it is just due to dirty egr ports it only gets a cel under full throttle

[2keggie]

im interested in the fic also. everyone always says just get a standalone or such, but thats not always an option. let me know how the fic works out... im currently using emanage blue - i keep getting a p1128 that i cant get rid of: map sensor circuit lower than expected...

[t4lude98]

well i have the fic up and running no problems with the unit i will post a screen shot it retards timing and you can fool the o2 so that you can tune closed loop
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn25/t4lude98/ficsnap.jpg

[2keggie]

nice. do you have the aem wideband or will it work with any wideband? did you tune it urself? do you know where i can get the software to play with?

[t4lude98]

i use the aem wideband but you can use any wideband i have only street tuned myself but i need to get to a dyno here is a link to the softwarehttp://forum.aempower.com/forum/index.php/board,89.0.html
go to the new softwarw full install version

[2keggie]

hmmm.. are you running pretty big injectors? have you ever used any other piggybacks?

[t4lude98]

i am running rc 440 and yes i used to run a vafc

[t4lude98]

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn25/t4lude98/tyytft.jpg
well this is on 10 psi what do you guys think

[2keggie]

wut cat? open or closed dt?

[t4lude98]

no cat and open dt

[twokexlv6coupe]

well this is on 10 psi what do you guys think



specs/build?

[t4lude98]

i have a drag turbo kit well it the old kit with the blitz bov and deltagate but i cant find the trim of the turbo je 9:5:1 pistons,eagle h beams prodrive oil pump gears erl sleeved closed deck block p&p head walbro 255lph rc 440 injectors exedy clutch fidanza flywheel
how much boost do you think i can run safely

[2keggie]

seems kinda low bro. something doesn't seem rite.

[t4lude98]

i think its because of the log mani and crapy wastegate

[twokexlv6coupe]

log mani's have been known to hold up to ~400hp, no problem.

i think you just have a TINYYY turbo, cuz mostly all kits that come with everything usually come with pretty small turbo's. for comparisons sake, an H23 @ 8psi on a t3/to4e usually puts out 240hp/tq, which is 2 less psi, and they also have 40 less hp stock.

your engine is def built to handle 400hp easily, it just sounds like the turbo (and injectors) are holding you back from some serious power. try to figure out what kinda snail you have tho.




also... was this professionally tuned? or just street tuned by yourself?

[2keggie]

i think both the turbo and the injectors can support just over 300.

[t4lude98]

i think its a t3/t40e from my research i think it a .50 trim
and could i just turn up the boost?
and it was tuned by a pro

[2keggie]

.50 trim? yeah, thats small for a lude. do you know what the turbine ar is? if you wanna turn up the boost, should get a new map sensor. wait... the fic has an onboard boost sensor rite and a voltage clamp for the stock map. still though the stock map might take a poop on you.

[t4lude98]

yes you clamp the map voltage

[2keggie]

hey, wut kind of ignition do you have? coil and plugs?

[t4lude98]

i have a msd blaster coil and bkr7e11 ngk plugs