which headers...

['93PreludeVTEC]

im lookin for some headers but dont kno wut brand....im thinkin dc sports or obx.... should they be ceramic or stainless steel.... also what brand is better for performance and cheaper.... any other brands u guys could input would be coo thanks...

[THE ONE]

before I go on and on about different header(s) you can get.... I want to ask you what's your current setup and what's your plans performance wise for the lude?

['93PreludeVTEC]

right now i got an aem intake and a magnaflow catback... i plan to put a highflow cat... tune the engine..... cam gears and cam shafts.... and way in the future a turbo....

[THE ONE]

look into the greddy header. I try to stay away from dc header but that's me. Besides if your going turbo I wouldn't spend too much money on a header that won't be on my car if I go boosted.

But if you must then get the greddy header! STAY AWAY FROM OBX!

['93PreludeVTEC]

why is obx and dc sports no good.... so ceramic headers is wack right? so the greddy header will be straight with a turbo or will i need to get another one

[THE ONE]

why is obx and dc sports no good.... so ceramic headers is wack right? so the greddy header will be straight with a turbo or will i need to get another one

Oh No!..... if you go turbo you won't be using a header. You'll be using a turbo manifold with a down pipe.


Obx products tend to break on the prelude and DC header makes minimal power on the h22(1-3whp)....

['93PreludeVTEC]

aight fasho thanks man ima do the greddy headers and keep it like dat for a while cuz im kinda broke... then later on ima go turbo when i start hustlin haha... so people wit turbo wut do they do to pass smog and avoid they car being taken and forced to go back stock?

[THE ONE]

Well there are plenty of ways to pass emissions you just got to do research on that and become familiar with your resources in your area............

['93PreludeVTEC]

aight thanks fo tha help homie

[ogsmakdade]

you have to get an EMS piggyback or full. You also need someone that can tune and detune it properly so you can pass your emissions.

['93PreludeVTEC]

yea AEM EMS is good right... its hard to get a turbo here in cali cuz those mutha****ers are strict.... if they find things that aint supposed to be there like a turbo or even headers and they catch u then they crush ur car in front of u....

[ogsmakdade]

I have an AEM EMS and it's great. Some people like hondata or even other brands that are just piggy back. I would rather just bypass the stock computer all together in order to have complete controll of the motor.

[bboixtc]

if ur lookin to get turbo in the future, save ur money and keep ur stock header.
second, if ur definately not goin turbo, get ceramic because it retains heat better. Also, DC is garbage without the 2.5 collector mod. DC does not have huge performance gains over stock. If you have an H22, go with RMF or SMSP. Otherwise, there are many different headers to choose from. Megan is known to have the welds break at the hangers, so like i said, if you are going turbo, SAVE UR MONEY. no reason to waste money now for small gains when that money will get u more gains in the future.

[ogsmakdade]

well said. I have a RMF SS header and it's beautiful. Also pricey @ $1000

[94 LUDE]

check these out this is what I'm going to get in another month and they have ceramic coating!! Kamikazi I haven't heard any negative feedback from them but if there is someone will chime in.

http://www.kamikazeperformance.com/store/shop/index.html

[hotrod]

do not get a dc ceramic. this is coming from a person who has one. when i did my jdm h22a swap, the motor didn't come with a stock header. my original plans were to keep the header stock and get a smsp header later on. but since the motor didn't come with a header, and i was really short on cash, i just picked up the dc ceramic. biggest waste of money ever.

[94PreludeJDM]

check these out this is what I'm going to get in another month and they have ceramic coating!! Kamikazi I haven't heard any negative feedback from them but if there is someone will chime in.

http://www.kamikazeperformance.com/store/shop/index.html

I believe I've heard those headers are alright, I believe Greddy is still a little better, but I'm pretty sure that was the header that some 5th geners with a JRSC were loving, i guess for some reason they work really well with the supercharger.

['93PreludeVTEC]

coo... thanks guys fo the help... for now ima look into the headers cuz my motor is kinda gettin old...148,000+ so if i go turbo now it wont last me much... ima go turbo when i buy another H22...

['93PreludeVTEC]

oh yea.. 94 lude... kamikaze looked like a tight ass header till i read the bottom... not for use in CA... haha i was pissed man... i aint takin no risk wit gettin my car smashed...

[bboixtc]

if ur h22 is on its way out.. like i said. SAVE UR MONEY. plus. why would u buy another h22? why don't u just rebuild this one if ur going to go turbo? regardless of miles, rebuilding it and treating it right will last u a while. besides h22's are getting harder to come by. by the time u actually get one, what makes u think the mileage is going to be low? also, if ur in Cali, and ur concerned about emissions.. damn... u should really think this through and not waste ur money. cause i know money don't grow on tree's out here in NY, atleast not for me. i'm a broke a** mothaf*ucka.

['93PreludeVTEC]

yea i kno were u coming from cuz im broke too but i jus wanna have a faster car u kno... about emissions i jus found out today my homie knos someone that is crooked in smog tests... about the h22 i was thinking about the jdm h22 wit 40 to 50k and 220 hp but i kno its pretty expensive to get it... i got so many ideas but wit low money im just tryin to weigh out the options that will get me the most power for the money cuz i kno turbo will give me more power and cost less than buying parts and goin N/A... how much do it cost to rebuild the engine and how much time do it take...

[bboixtc]

JDM h22's don't have 220 hp. They are "rated" at 200. The only JDM h22's with 220hp are the one's from the type S and the Euro R. The Type S is from a 5th gen and OBDII and will be gay to put into ur car cause urs is OBDI. Secondly. If you want your car to be faster now, then waste money. because if you want to boost, u will have to lower compression. lowering compression decreases HP. so it would not make sense to buy a 220hp H22 then lower the compression. Because of the lower compression in the other motors, this is why F22's and H23's are favored when it comes to boost. If you want more bang for your buck, go turbo. rebuild your h22. don't buy a header for ur car now. It takes time and patience. If ur serious about making ur car a bit faster now, take out the A/C, power steering, cruise control, do some weight reduction, CF hood, trunk, sunroof plug, racing seats, and gut the rear. Then for performance wise, get a cheap ebay intake, or just drop a K&N filter into ur current intake now, do the bypass coolant mod, get a 2.25 or 2.5 in piping exhaust and get a VTEC controler. half those mods are free and cheap. (except for the CF hood, trunk, and plug). however those mods i recommend because it won't cost much to replace or change when u do go turbo.

Its like saying...

"i have an h23 now, and its about to die. but i want it faster, should i buy an i/h/e?? and what other preformance parts should i buy to make it faster, btw, i'm going to swap to an h22 when the h23 dies"

its the same thing. why would u buy parts then have no use for them later.
save money, and don't buy a header. thats it.

['93PreludeVTEC]

yea i meant the type s h22 wit 220... da motor wouldnt fit right in my car or it would look gay or wut... yea i thought about it and it make sense to hold off on da headers... i dont kno much about turbos and i was lookin at turbonetics and greddys turbos and they make em for the car so why would i have to lower compression for it to be safe and reliable and last longer or wut... cuz i went on da site and it didnt say anythin about lowering compression it just said dat my motor make 190 and wit turbo would make 275 and dat the kit and tuning is all in need... correct me if im wrong..

[THE ONE]

ok......


Why to lower compression when using forced induction:
it makes tuning that much easier. Also, if your running a high compression ratio the chance of denonation in the combustion chambers become higher.

Also... your car does not have 190whp. thats power at the crank. your probly around ~150-160~whp. Then with a bolt on turbo and a little bit of tuning on stock boost (6psi). your looking at about 240ish whp.

why did he recommend lowering the compression? Well you said your motor is dying so in other words it needs to be rebuilt. While rebuilding it you can have your block sleeved and run lower compression pistons to have the block ready for boost. Once your block is build it can handle well over 400whp with a big enough turbo.........

Also I recommend you buying one of those turbo magazines so you can do some research about them because your not going to grasp it with us typing up over the internet. you have to read up on turbos for yourself to get a better understanding of them.

[StreetCatalyst]

just hang out at the local races, you'll learn a lot. a handful of them probably got hook ups that they want to share.

night races are the best...more girls.

[THE ONE]

just hang out at the local races, you'll learn a lot. a handful of them probably got hook ups that they want to share.

night races are the best...more girls.

thats true... but there are a lot BS that gets said at local races too. So you have to be very careful and know how to filter out the Bull crap!

['93PreludeVTEC]

yea i go to races and stuff but in my part of LA my car is considered real fast.... riced up civics...accords... slow 240sx... tc.... those are the majority and besides those there are the muscle cars dat just destroy everything....plus they be racin silverado ss.... so i really dont have people that kno info about wut im lookin for... i just go for the girls mainly and smash on civics....i never thought turbo would be kind of alot of work but i might as well do research