Vafc II

[THE ONE]

Well I must say that approximately 2 years ago I purchased the new VAFCII and I was impressed with the output I put out with it considering the engine modifactions I had at the time. Modifications where: intake, dc header, and exhaust. Most refere to them as I/H/E. I dynoed 166whp and 135ft/tq. I must say that I was a little disappointed with that but none the less that was what I made before it was tuned. It took Kevin(my tuner) roughly 45 minutes to beef up the hp and torque out put to 175whp and 139ft/tq. I was impressed with the results even though I thought that's where I would have been in stock forum.

What does this do for my performance?

Well it fine tunes (clean up) your air/fuel ratio and and also give you another rpm gauge/pressure gauge etc... etc... it also has a nice looking appearance which compliments the interior of the prelude IMHO. There is a led light that switches color from green to red when the engine switches to the high lobe of the camshaft.

Down side:

It does not actually tunes the engine. It is a piggy back ecu that manipulates sensors in order to gain power. In other words... it taps into sensors that give readings to the ecu. So it doesn't actually tunes the engines. It tricks the sensors to give the ecu a certain reading and the ecu make the necessary changes need. I would take it to a dyno to get it tuned because when you start to playing with the airfuel and vtec change over points you will through CEL code!
Overall:

The VAFCII is a great product for those who have simple bolt-ons and want to remain OBDII. For what the vafc is, its a great buy for the money. Not too expensive and can smooth out your power curve.

Here are a few pics:
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/1340/picture08020xh.jpg
and with it turned on before tuning:
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1371/vafciibig6qo.jpg

T.E.L.
AKA Ace.

[absntmnd69]

so does the S-AFC II do the same minus the vtec manipulating?

[THE ONE]

yes it does...

[Prelude13]

I have SAFC version I.

Nice review.man. :tup:

[joseph]

not to be an ass or anything but do u actually feel safe driving with a cobra radar detector??

[THE ONE]

not to be an ass or anything but do u actually feel safe driving with a cobra radar detector??

lol believe or not that little sucker works!

[joseph]

i picked up a escort 8500 red from a buddy of mine for $90 and it works alot better then my bros cobra

[Lifeeater46]

Has anyone checked out the new Apexi Neo??? or heard anything about it? If you have let us know!

[THE ONE]

Has anyone checked out the new Apexi Neo??? or heard anything about it? If you have let us know!

it is a little better but not by much. I've read up on it I'm not really that impressed with it. It does some things that the vafc2 doesn't do but I doubt it will make that much difference between the two products when tuned. I like the RPM gauge on the Neo thats about it...

[dakilla4ever]

is there anything like this for an h23?

[THE ONE]

yes... SAFCI and SAFCII.

[Prelude13]

Or the new AFC NEO.

:D

[Honda4Life]

Bone stock I dynoed out at 169.3 hp at the wheels. Don't remember the TQ. though.

[MidnightRayne]

I prefer the SAFC I because i like the buttons over the dial, of course you have more points of correction with the 2 but ill live with it. Over all they are a nice buy.

[na93prepre]

So justcurious real quick on the new NEO. It basically does the same thing and manipulates the sensors to right? Therefor is it worth the 300 some dollar price tag? Should I just keep my Apexi Vafc 1?

[THE ONE]

question #1: yes
#2: no
#3: yes

[na93prepre]

Thanks TOP

[charpy2os]

Well what are the specs of it ?! hahaha what did you put the settings to so nobody else has to dyno :)

[Prelude818]

i have heard a couple of good things about these.. i know there are new ones out that are a VAFCII and Vtec Controller.. whats the deal with those? good or bad..?

[Brash22]

Well what are the specs of it ?! hahaha what did you put the settings to so nobody else has to dyno :)

Your settings will be different from Aces, as well as different from every other car that this is fitted to.

[charpy2os]

Well, I don't see why they would, if he's got the same SYSTEM as i do, and same engine with the same mods, it should be near the same. Shouldn't it?

[Brash22]

Yes it should be similar, but there will always be differences. I mean the internal combustion engine has been around a long time and most tuneups will look pretty much the same.

However normal wear/tear take their toll, as do all the other factors you would imagine. How else would you explain my auto 5g making 101kW at the wheels on a chassis dyno yet a manual car with the same H22Z1 engine and less milage only made 88kW, on the same dyno about a half hour later?

[BadMofo]

Yeah dude... just because we all drive the same kind of car and use similar mods, doesn't mean we all tune to the same settings... Think about it... if that was the case, NO one would go dyno tuning... Everyone would just be using the same exact settings.

[BadMofo]

i have heard a couple of good things about these.. i know there are new ones out that are a VAFCII and Vtec Controller.. whats the deal with those? good or bad..?

VAFCII IS a vtec controller... It is a Vtec and Air/fuel controller. SAFC is just an air/fuel controller... VAFC is a vtec + air/fuel controller.

The NEW version from Apexi is called the "SAFC Neo", and it performs the same as the VAFC... just a newer prettier (more expensive) version of it.

[nevrdun]

This is exactly what I was trying to find out about a vafc! Great write up. What is the install like? Is it something as simple as an obd plug in or more invasive?

[xiayu]

So you still end up having it tuned and the tuner set your VAFC II? I'm guessing some tuners have preferences of what they're working with?

[THE ONE]

yes and yes. I'd recomend before buying any type of tuning product that you find out from your tuner what he likes to tune with and if this is a product you are looking into purchasing will he (the tuner) be comfortable using it...