tweeter distortion help pls

[Brute]

Hello, i have a 98 prelude and i just put in the tweeters mids and high speakers of a 3 piece audiobahn component system, i left the base speaker out because i havent installed the setup correctly yet....my issue is this

I've connected everything (the tweeters and mids and high speakers) to the stock wires in my prelude...the speakers sound great but the tweeters make a distortion noise when ever i turn up the volume...I did it super mickey and just twisted the wires onto the "prongs" or "posts" that are on the tweeters( theres 2 posts) because i just wanted sound for now until i do the setup correctly...
Does anyone have any idea as to what is causing the distortion? I listen to MP3 files through my IPOD and alpine head unit- my guess is that since i only twisted the wires on they're causing a distortion?- or would a wire problem suggest complete sound cut off?

Thanks for the help guys =D

PS i have a 5/500 JL amp, 10" JL woofer stocks in the back and the audio bahn competition 3 way component speaker system with cross overs- do you just have any suggestions on setup as far as wire gauges, amp settings, equalizer(do i even need one) and capacitor( do i need one?) Thx!

[sfields]

could be that the tweeters you got arent rated for the dB's your trying to make them put out... or the Hz output on them... also could be the highs on your head are up too much... and you could try soldering the connections to see if it fixes it, also cutting back the wires to get fresh wire if you didnt do that before might help

[Brute]

thanks, i got the highs at minus 2, when they're at 0 it sounds so clear and chrisp it feels like the sound smacks my face and gives me a huge head ache, they're competition speakers so i think i did an over kill, i havent put up the crossovers so maybe that'll help too... but all of the settings are super loooow =\

[sfields]

yea id get those crossovers in... and solder everything! its all about the connections, and if its not soldered its not really solid IMO

[mizlude]

in 5th gen preludes you have to rewire all of the speakers if you get after market one or they will blow out no mater what.

[nevrdun]

in 5th gen preludes you have to rewire all of the speakers if you get after market one or they will blow out no mater what.

Absolutely not! The rears have an amp and thay will still play. It has a high level input.

So you are saying that you have not installed the Audiobahn crossover network yet? If so that is the problem your tweeters are trying to play full range. NO BUENO!!! You MUST use the crossovers. Oh and your JL slash amp is probably pissed that you hooked up something like Audioblah speakers to it.

[yogi_pahl]

well its not hooked up right so it wont sound right put in the crossover and solder them up should sound right then

[HondaNeedsBoost]

not to jack the thread but i replaced my tweeters in my dash with newer ones...but the cover that they screw into isnt stayin in the place of the dash...well its not goin in either...but i can look down in behind it and see that theres nothing in the way...also istead of saudering the wire that snapped off would hot glue hold...my mom suggested it =P

[3rdGenCrazy]

...also istead of saudering the wire that snapped off would hot glue hold...my mom suggested it =P

im pretty sure hot glue wont work! the wires would melt the glue as there is a current running thru them!

[HondaNeedsBoost]

yea lol but like she said theyre only little wires...shes not the brightest with electical lol

[3rdGenCrazy]

yea lol but like she said theyre only little wires...shes not the brightest with electical lol

haha! its cool my mom would probably suggest something stupid like that too! haha

[HondaNeedsBoost]

yea and my friend took my last role of electical tape 2 days ago and lost it already

[3rdGenCrazy]

haha that sucks! my dads an electrician sooooo we have electrical tape all over the place! lol

[sfields]

hot glue probably would hold.. for a while solder is way better though... are there any holes in the leads coming off the tweeter? cause you could strip off more wire, put the wires through the holes, twist em up real nice and then put electrical tape on the twists.. still not as good as solder but prob better than hot glue

[HondaNeedsBoost]

i just told u no =P

[nevrdun]

im pretty sure hot glue wont work! the wires would melt the glue as there is a current running thru them!

the amount of current running through the wire going to a tweeter is close to unmeasurable. NO wire will heat up enough to melt hot glue in your car but definately solder it.

[HondaNeedsBoost]

well turns out there was a small loop i could run the wire through...so i ran it through and wrapped it a few times and then glued it lol it might hold

[Brute]

HAHA I love your mom for trying to help LOL God I hope you guys are right and thats the problem- theres also these little "base filters" that they sell at audio shops that i was suggested to use to fix the problem, they wire up to the possitive wire, but since you're all suggesting its the cross overs i will try that first, i might do it today...I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION! big suprise huh? =\

Check it out, i have my 10" JL subwoofer and i recently bought a small box for it because i want to use most of my trunk space.... well the connections on the WOOFER itself has 4 studs/prongs whatever... why is that? because it was only hooked up with 1 negative wire and 1 possitive wire, what are the other 2 for? is that for attaching another woofer to it with out running it straight to the amp? i mean was my woofer incorrectly wired before??? cause the box that i bought has 1 possitive and 1 negative connection only, but my amp has 4 connections... they look like this

l_____l l_____l a possitive and a negative on each set, i only use one right? or do i use 1 stud/prong from each set???? I didn't set up my box on my mustang so i don't quite know how to do it...i'm guessing i'll only be using one side, since when i took everything off there was only 1 negative and possitive wire, except i don't remember how it was all hooked up =\ i'm an idiot for not taking pictures....sigh =\

[sfields]

As far as I know you should only need to hook up one of the positive and one negative, I dont know what the other set is for; you might be on with wiring another woofer in, that would put them both in series instead of a parallel circuit.

[nevrdun]

OH GOOD LORD NO!!! The woofer has 2 sets of terminals because it is a dual voice coil sub. It needs to be wired appropiately for the amp. Do you have a mono or 2 ch. amp and what is the impedeance of the sub? D2? D4? it is imperartive your dont hook it up wrong. Failure WILL result.

[sfields]

^and that is why I got my subs already in an enclosure

[Brute]

Well... I have no idea what you just said... but its a JL 10 INCH woofer, with a JL 5 channel 500/5 amplifier it has two sets of "studs" "prongs" they look like this

Set one l___l set two l___l and they are exacly like this

l___l l___l right next to each other my box has a black and a red wire adapter, which means it'll only hold one negative and one possitive wire....how should i this up?

[nevrdun]

Okay so is it a 10w0? I was thinking you had another set on the opposite side of the woofer. Then if there is just one set of + and - terminals you only need a wire on one.

[Brute]

the woofer is a 3898 10W08 jl 10" woofer 125w RMS (what does rms mean? lol)

I have a question thats not related- whats the best wire size to use for the "antena" the "blue" wire ? the car had some cheap little sound system cause all of the wiring that i'm pulling off is super crappy cheap...they had like 12 gauge wire running to the car battery for the positive feed and a like...16g ground with like radio shack speaker wires, lol

I gots me them big 4 gauge monster cables! rick james B*%#! god i know nothing about audio, anyway =\ I'm tryin

[thomas97]

i installed new speakers in the front on my 5th gen and i shook the wires off haha im noitng to take the pugs to the speak so they dont fall out.

about the tweeters, is it easier to just leave the stock ones in? i cant even tell a difference...

[nevrdun]

Okay rms means root mean squared to break it down it is the average amount of power an amp puts out or a speaker is reated to handle. There is a long complicated equation to find rms. I never have and probably never will remember it.

4 gauge power is great for your 500/5. To be totally honest you may want to have your amp installed profesionally. If you you have no idea what your doing that is an expensive amp to be hacking it. The wire doesn't want to be hooke up to the ant wire. Your amp will only turn on with the radio. Not cd or anything else. Hook it to the rem. out or what ever it may be labeled. It is blue with white stripe. An 18 ga wire is more than enough for this. It carries no current just the 12v signal.

If you cant tell the difference between yoiur factory tweeters and the aftermarket tweeters. Box the speakers up and bring em back. You got screwed.

[Brute]

alrighty! question - how good is that woofer? Cause when I had it in my mustang it sounded SUPER clean, but lately i've noticed that i've changed the the kind of music i listen to, its got alot more base and i'm not sure if maybe i need to upgrade woofer..... I'm not completely clueless =\ I have really heavy duty wiring from what was in my mustang so i'm just going to re use that- its all high quality monster cable the only thing i don't have is the antena cable that goes from the amp to the head unit antena( the blue and white cable you mentioned) and i was wondering if size mattered on that guy cause the hole for it in my amp is for like an 8 gauge wire not a tiny 18...it goes Possitive, ground, antenna.. huge huge large lol

I kind of want to do it on my own because i've never done installations of audio except for the box i built for my mustang and the speakers, but i don't know how it all "really " works and i'm trying to learn- tired of bugging friends for things i should know, so i'm buggign you guys LOL! (i'm a cheater)

Hehe! man i had pictures finally, but i let my xgirlfriend take my memory card reader and now i can't load them =\ sigh...but i'll make sure to post some of my car and audio system when i'm done, i still havent posted car pics :(

[Brute]

oh and i didn't say the tweeter thing- man these audiobahn sound CRAZY, those tweets feel like they're B slapping you every time they bump!

[nevrdun]

yeah you only need like 18 ga tho. JL audios car that we have at the shop right now has 8ga remote turn on and it sure looks cool like that but not necessary. Oh and you wanna talk about bump it is completely off the wall. I haven't heard anything like it.

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/graphics/Gallery/demo_vehicles_gallery/index.php

the GTi is in our showroom right now.

Your 10w0 would be better suited as a pair or with a 2ch amp. Your mono channel from your amp isn't going to give it the power it should. Pick up a 10w1v2 4 ohm. That thing can take a beating! Theyre like 100 bucks! Bad ass. Trust me, ive installed alot of them

[Brute]

ok what did you just say nevrdun? better not be anything about my momma!

whats a 10w1v2? and you're saying my amp sucks? or my woofer sucks? or both? =\

[Brute]

ok what did you just say nevrdun? better not be anything about my momma!

whats a 10w1v2? and you're saying my amp sucks? or my woofer sucks? or both? =\

[nevrdun]

No your amp is top notch. The sub is good too. But the impedance (ohms) is higher than what your amp wants to put out the most power. The mono channel of your amp is rated for advertised power at between 1.5 to 4 ohms. Concidering your sub is 8 ohms it is twice the impedance it should be your amp is putting out half the power it should.

[nevrdun]

No your amp is top notch. The sub is good too. But the impedance (ohms) is higher than what your amp wants to put out the most power. The mono channel of your amp is rated for advertised power at between 1.5 to 4 ohms. Concidering your sub is 8 ohms it is twice the impedance it should be your amp is putting out half the power it should.

[Brute]

ooh, well i don't want it to be super loud or anything, i don't want everyone to listen to what i'm listening too, forcefully LOL I just want really nice detailed and clear sound...and since i'm playing all sorts of music I need to have some base because my speakers arent cutting it- they come with mini subs which I've yet to install so all I'm running on is the stock back speakers and a 3 way compenent system by audiobahn rated at 350 watts (minus the mini subs cause i havent installed them yet so so far im running just tweets mid and high's speakers and rear speakers)

[Brute]

ooh, well i don't want it to be super loud or anything, i don't want everyone to listen to what i'm listening too, forcefully LOL I just want really nice detailed and clear sound...and since i'm playing all sorts of music I need to have some base because my speakers arent cutting it- they come with mini subs which I've yet to install so all I'm running on is the stock back speakers and a 3 way compenent system by audiobahn rated at 350 watts (minus the mini subs cause i havent installed them yet so so far im running just tweets mid and high's speakers and rear speakers)

[HondaNeedsBoost]

nice double post lol..i got mine back in....tweeters that is..i had them out for some reason that im unare of now