New Paint Job.. Can I Buffer?

[lvlrkmart]

Okay, its not exactly new, it was done over the summer. its about 3 months old, but heres the thing, it has a integrated Clear Coat, which means they mix the paint with the clear coat then spray it.

and... i dont like how it came out. Can I take a buffer and buff it. would that make it improve.

it doesnt reflect all shiney perfect clear. its more like textured reflection i guess you can say.

any advice is great. thhanks all.

[mizlude]

i would ask the shop that did it for you.

try a clay bar and do it lightly

[ogsmakdade]

clear coat isn't meant to be mixed with the paint. I dont' care how many people are jumping on intergrated clear coat. all it is, is a way for the shops to cut a step outta the process in order to make more money. you got ripped.

happend to me when someone hit my fender. they used a quick dry primer (where the outside dries like a shell and it's still wet underneath) and painted right over it hours later. that paint is rippled like rosie odonells thighs....

[the_one]

probably what you're seeing is called orange peel, which can be taken out by wet sanding and buffing, but you better know what you are doing or it's not going to look any better. try finding a detail shop that will do this for you if you have no experience buffing. it is very easy to burn through the paint and i bet these guys hardly put enough on anyways.

[92_prelude]

Yeah man it sounds like you got ripped off....these guys are right though, i would take it back to the shop or to a detailer..

[BB1_]

I got an integrated clear coat.
4 months old.

Mine looks perfect, nice and really reflective. Like a mirror.

I guess they must have used bad quality paint. Or maybe ripped you off with the clear coat part.
The shop I went to gave me a 3 year scratch + clear coat warranty.

I would take it back and see what advice they could give you about the buffing of the paint.

[luderbrit]

Hi i got my lude painted cheaply through a pal, i done all the donkey work sanding, filling base primer ect. but the painter had no cares or pride of work,
and it showed.
I had to rub the whole car down too a flat finish using 1200,& 1500 grit wet and dry lots of washing up soap in the water, stops paper clogging up, then i buffed the shine back with 3 grades of polish and finally a metalic wax, and wow what a differance

ELBOW GREASE is the answer, it's cheaper
good luck

[lvlrkmart]

the paint job was only 150 bucks, not going into details on the entire situation, but its not bad, its the the textured look , its not mirror reflective. owell

[ablude]

You could try lightly wet sanding it with some 2000 grit sand paper. This could get out a lot of the runs or orange peel. After sanding you can give it a good buffing and see how it turns out. Your paint is fully cured now, so if you know what you are doing you really cant mess it up. Good luck.

[the_one]

for 150 bucks i'm surprised the paint hasn't fallen off yet. they couldn't have even sanded the car down first for that. you get what you pay for. shouldn't have gone so cheap cause now it will cost a hell of a lot more than it would have if you just done it right in the first place.

[luderbrit]

Just a tip, experiment on a bit of the car that won't be seen much, ie. dont try the hood or large panals first

good look

[Uncle Buck]

single stage paint is pretty much what you had done.... $150 is actually not a rip off.... considering a gallon of paint will set someone back $50, then the hardner, then the reducer (8: 6 :1 if i recall) ... so really $150 paint job isnt that bad... thats what i paid roughly to have my car sprayed, but the problem isnt the paint.... its how its applied and where it is applied.... me for example i used my garage, swept the floor, then washed it and left the floor wet (so no dust)... or if your lucky and know someone that has a booth.... but i never had to many issues with my setup, i have orange peel but even the professionals get that, its just lack of timing when being sprayed, the key is to lay down coats of paint while the previous coat is still tacky.... if its setting up to fast then it will indeed have orange peel..... but honestly your best bet to get rid of these flaws is to use 2000 grit sand paper, and either A) re-clear the whole car or B) buff it out

me iam not to worried, i dont care if my car has orange peel or not.... its just a car and i enjoy it for what it is.... not to mention i autocross my car so i will get more flaws... but life is to short to deal with the pitty stuff :biggrin:

[lvlrkmart]

no no.. here's what happen. the guys were actually really cool. i took it down to macco, cause my friend hit my fender, so i got a new one and they were gonna color match and blend it with the door and hood.. but the thing was... they had trouble painting the hood, they had to sand it completely down. so now they were trying to blend the hood with both fenders, and now the fenders had to be blended with the doors, so they pretty much had half of the car sanded.

my dad and i get checking up on them. after a week we went and talked to them, i suppose their scale was broken, so my dad managed to talk them in to just sanding the rest of the car down and spraying it all.

the guy was cool, he added some extra pearl to the paint and shaved my front emblem for me.

its a good paint job, but if you've seen an integrated clear coat, you know not really mirror reflective, i'll probably try some 2000 wet sanding though, since i have it sitting around.

any tips on buffing though, i saw an electric buffer for 30 bucks... thinking about getting it, any certain pad i should use for it and solutions..?

thannks all

[ablude]

You can get a decent buffer for under $50. As far as the type of pad goes, they will all work for the most part. Get yourself something with some decent rpm's (2000-3000), and its pretty easy from there on out. I've sanded down a very orange peel-y paint job, then buffed it, and the improvement was pretty amazing.

[lvlrkmart]

oh.. orange peel... i didnt realize what u guys ment, but yea that was it looks like a the peeling on a orange. well put. lol

k,well thanks for the help

[alex_belarus]

pretty sure u can buff it