Projector headlight

[simon1127]

Does any body know the project headlight of the 5th gen works and looks good or not? I found it on ebay, it looks real cool but question about the quality.

[Rory]

Depends on who made them. No after market company makes projector headlights for the 5th gen. They have to be retro fitted. So depending on who made it. Depends on how good they are. Every pair is custom. Some have lexus projectors in them. Some have mercedes. Hell... Some even have S2k headlights.

[simon1127]

i think what i found on ebay are made by after market company. Its 400 dollors a pair projector head light with led. Check it out on ebay.

[vLude99]

i know what you are talking about. i don't know anybody who actually tried those but i know some 4th genners tried some eBay headlight and they had very low light output compared to stock.

[simon1127]

well thats what i am worry about. i tried this kind of headlight on my previous civic, night time, i have to depend on my fog light. thats mean poor quality, I dont have to think about it.: )

[simon1127]

oh one more thing, what about if i upgrade the light bulp.......or even hid?

[slvr92lude]

bizzump

[hotrod]

for $400, you're better off paying a little more and retrofitting to do it the "right way". talk to prelude1897... he's on most if not all prelude boards.

[Rory]

+1 for hids.

[Neo]

Those ebay projectors use LED in the projector. Thats why you see those wires coming out of the back of them. Supposely they give less light output than halogen bulbs.

[Prelude1897]

I wouldn't buy any cheap ebay projectors headlights.

[Hondamugen103]

Does any body know the project headlight of the 5th gen works and looks good or not? I found it on ebay, it looks real cool but question about the quality.

i agree with prelude1897 those guys you cant trust for ****. save your money and get a retro by jwhite: look in my sig for the link, or i hear prelude1897 does retros as well talk with both of those guys and see what is best for you.

[ogsmakdade]

b hook me up w/ some cheap retrofits, I'm shoppin my lude to honda tuning lol

[Hondamugen103]

b hook me up w/ some cheap retrofits, I'm shoppin my lude to honda tuning lol

can i see some work of bce retros? i'm inteerested i wanna see how good his work is.

[Drew]

heres what he did on mine.
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2849/dscf1761gj1.jpg
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/239/dscf1768ow5.jpg
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5535/dscf1805if2.jpg
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9567/dscf1780vz5.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/756/dscf1769xr5.jpg
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9568/dscf2029ks9.jpg

[Prelude1897]

can i see some work of bce retros? i'm inteerested i wanna see how good his work is.


Just click the link in my sig for more pics...Yea I know it's just a simple myspace page, but it's not just the website that gets buisness, it's word of mouth which is pretty much the best advertisment :biggrin:

[my4thgenlude]

what HID bulbs have a clean blue-ish tint and are bright but not blinding...I had a friend recommend 5000K to me but I wanted some more opinions??

[Hondamugen103]

what HID bulbs have a clean blue-ish tint and are bright but not blinding...I had a friend recommend 5000K to me but I wanted some more opinions??

go with phillips 4300k and contact the person doing your retro and see if he knows how to do whats called a color mod to the cutoff.


how do you mount the projecter? my freind custom makes everything just check out the sig and look at all hte top end cars hes's done he's big with the 5gen accord but he does any type of car. and he can do any type of projecter/ shoud combo.

[Prelude1897]

what HID bulbs have a clean blue-ish tint and are bright but not blinding...I had a friend recommend 5000K to me but I wanted some more opinions??


For a good blue tint, go with Phillips 6000k bulbs, but for the brightest light output, go with 4300k...I wouldn't suggest going any higher than 6000k bulbs

[Hondamugen103]

For a good blue tint, go with Phillips 6000k bulbs, but for the brightest light output, go with 4300k...I wouldn't suggest going any higher than 6000k bulbs

i disagree, have you experience any color moding at all? you can use 4300k bulbs and still get a blue tint in the cutoff with a color mod its simple. anything above 5000k is pushinging it, you wont be able to see the road as well

[Drew]

i disagree, have you experience any color moding at all? you can use 4300k bulbs and still get a blue tint in the cutoff with a color mod its simple. anything above 5000k is pushinging it, you wont be able to see the road as well uh, just to let you know, you're talking to the guy who does the retrofits...... and he means for an overall blue tint. not just the cutoff. but you're right, anything above 5k is just not practical.. i just dont understand what the big deal is to have BLUE headlights. i think its ugly. mine are 4300 i believe. and they actually look blue to me.

[Hondamugen103]

uh, just to let you know, you're talking to the guy who does the retrofits...... and he means for an overall blue tint. not just the cutoff. but you're right, anything above 5k is just not practical.. i just dont understand what the big deal is to have BLUE headlights. i think its ugly. mine are 4300 i believe. and they actually look blue to me.

thatrs what i'v been trying to say. lol but you dont need an overall blue tint. a freind of mine who owns the prelude he hass a retro and when i see him comming down the road i see his lights and they have a blue tint. all you need is 4300k and if you want blue tint you get a color mod to the cut-off. besides if their too blue your gonna attract attension your not gonna want, ppl messin with your **** or cops.

[Prelude1897]

For a nice blue tint onto the road and still have great output, go with 6000k bulbs and I wouldn't suggest going any higher than that.. A 5000k bulb is pretty much just a color shifted 4300k bulb, so you'll not going to notice too much of a color change. I've had had all 3 temps of bulbs. I've gone from 4300, to 5000, and now I'm running Phillips 6000k bulbs. LOL, I like how you asked if I've done color modding before. Color modding is just when you add a couple of washers so that the cutoff line itself has a thicker blue/purple cutoff.

[jwhite]

heres what he did on mine.

Your driver's side needs to be rotated.



i disagree, have you experience any color moding at all? you can use 4300k bulbs and still get a blue tint in the cutoff with a color mod its simple. anything above 5000k is pushing it, you wont be able to see the road as well

He's done plenty of color modding. Desired blue tint in the beam will have to result in a higher kelvin bulb. If you desire a blue cutoff, washer modding is needed. The flicker that is created from a projector is directly due to the physical and optical properties of each projector. Most people want the flicker but make the mistake in assuming that higher kelvin results in more output.

Even the Phillips 85122+ Bulbs are not rated at 5000k, instead they are just ~4300k bulbs that are color-shift resistant.

[Drew]

Your driver's side needs to be rotated. nah, thats cuz of the angle i took the pic at.

and just for the information. i got a local friend with a prelude. SAME EXACT projector retrofit as mine except he got color mod and i didnt. if you guys decide to get projectors. GET THE COLOR MOD. it looks way cooler. just sitting still it has the same blueish hue to it. but once you start rolling down the road you get all sorts of colors. not just blue purple. but you get green and yellow too. sometimes on mine at certain angles you will get green but mostly blue.

[vervuurt]

For the price difference between the retrofits and the ebay headlights...I will choose to go with the ebay ones... They are cheaper a price difference of 300 to 400 dollar...

You guys think about that

[jwhite]

^yeah but you cant see with the ebay lights..

[Drew]

im a firm believer in you get what you pay for... the price difference is there for a reason because what you're buying is cheap crap off ebay. brian makes his from quality OEM parts. and his work is proven. just ask anyone who has bought his headlights.. i dont know about you, but im not gonna be a guinea pig on a new product. if it fails now you gotta pay more to get a new set... and the price difference isnt all that much anyways. the way i see it, if you can afford a set of projectors for a few hundred bucks. you can afford a BETTER set for a few hundred more.

if you want something cheap and fast, dont expect it to be quality
if you want something cheap and quality, dont expect it to be fast
if you want something fast and quality, dont expect it to be cheap.

think about that^
and apply it to the ebay's projectors. you can get the ebay projectors fast, right? i mean, hes got an auction on ebay, that means hes got some available. so that means they are cheap to make.. i dont know about most people, but if it costs me 400 bucks to make a projector headlight housing, im not gonna make a bunch and try to sell them on ebay. so you can guarantee they are pretty cheap to make. and when something is fast and cheap, it aint quality..

from the maker himself: its a halogen projector.. its not OEM but the other category is not "knock off."
it's called "aftermarket," ie; greddy, hks, injen, etc.. I would say our product
holds up damn fine. I haven't yet gotten any complaints about the item.

However, comparing aftermarket parts vs. OEM, of course there is a fragment
of imperfection in that it doesn't come from the original manufacturer, HONDA..

But likewise everything else aftermarket and not modeled after a OEM item ("knockoff")
these lights are a NEWER item, and there are chances of minor defects/imperfections,
which I will service for you guys if they should apply..

[vervuurt]

I Wrote A Diy On Proj. Head. Check It Out In The How Tos Section
Holla Back

[Squad Walker]

I mainly want new headlights simply b/c my old one's are all dingy & yellow like some nasty old teeth. :D

New one's I've seen can be like $600 a set. And, the ebay one's look nice to me. Would like to see a pic w/ some on a car.

Can anyone give some examples of their problems? I think I read dull brightness before... any mounting issues, leaking, etc.?

If the lights aren't that bright, can a better bulb in the head lamp housing improve this? Can anyone who's bought these testify as to how they performed, maybe a picture of them on your car?

These types are all over ebay... many have different names, but they all look the same, clear or black, usually halo projector in the name...

Any advice is appreicated. ... and, if someone knocks those lights, can they provide a link to the lights I "should" be buying?

Thanks!

[ogsmakdade]

spend the money and get new OEM headlights. I saw projectors from egay on a lude this weekend and they're terrible.

You can also try removing the headlights from your car and wetsanding them and polishing em. there's writeups for that kinda thing on every board.

[Squad Walker]

there's writeups for that kinda thing on every board.


I searched this site some & couldn't find one... not sure what other prelude sites are worth searching....

Can anyone suggest another good site to search for head light surface cleaning or maybe a link?

[deafy]

heres a few pics of it... this is a luder that I know...
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/deafy/ludeproj3.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/deafy/ludeproj2.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g9/deafy/ludeproj.jpg

[Drew]

^ that looks bad ass.... but any pics with the headlights on??? cutoff directly infront and the sides? view from the driver seat with headlights on?

I searched this site some & couldn't find one... not sure what other prelude sites are worth searching....

Can anyone suggest another good site to search for head light surface cleaning or maybe a link? you must not have searched very hard. i simply put in a search on this site "polishing headlights" and 3 usable results came up. try again dude. its pretty easy to find OTHER prelude forums. use google and type PRELUDE FORUM. preludepower. preludeonline absoluteprelude. and even similarly, more LOCAL prelude fourms such as bayareaprelude. SFPOA, NTPOG. VAPOG OHPOC.... you dont necessarily have to use PRELUDE forums. im sure tying in google "headlight polishing" will yield tons of usable sites or forums with the information. all this searching took me less then a minute.

[vervuurt]

I think the headlights are ON
thats why people don't want to buy them because of their poor light output

[deafy]

Actually I think just the parking lights are on... The actual headlights aren't ON... I asked the guy for a pic of them completely on. Hold onto your tighties.

[vervuurt]

If you have a pic that there are completely on and they have great output
then ebay here i come!!!

[Squad Walker]

preludepower. preludeonline absoluteprelude. and even similarly, more LOCAL prelude fourms such as bayareaprelude. SFPOA, NTPOG. VAPOG OHPOC.... you dont necessarily have to use PRELUDE forums. im sure tying in google "headlight polishing" will yield tons of usable sites or forums with the information. all this searching took me less then a minute.

Thanks..... I think. :-/

Should have tried "polishing". I tried headlight surface repair.. headlight lens repair.... didn't find much. shame on me...

I had also typed in prelude forum, I got this site & preludeonline.com. Preludeonline is kaput. So, I just thought I'd ask... just in case someone knew a direction to point me in. Didn't mean to put you through so much trouble... Thanks for the absolute prelude site link, that's a nice site.

Those ebay lights look cool to me, if they hold up & are bright enough.... I may get a pair myself.

[Prelude1897]

I had a member from another board send me a set of those Ebay projector headlights, and damn they're cheap. I have to send them back cause 1 of the headlights was broken I guess during shipment. Whenever I get another set sent back to me, I'll test them out on my car just to see how the output is. The only reason the person had them sent was so I can retrofit some HID projectors into them:cool:

[Prelude1897]

Thanks..... I think. :-/

Should have tried "polishing". I tried headlight surface repair.. headlight lens repair.... didn't find much. shame on me...

I had also typed in prelude forum, I got this site & preludeonline.com. Preludeonline is kaput. So, I just thought I'd ask... just in case someone knew a direction to point me in. Didn't mean to put you through so much trouble... Thanks for the absolute prelude site link, that's a nice site.

Those ebay lights look cool to me, if they hold up & are bright enough.... I may get a pair myself.



It's fairly easy to wet sand your lenses. Just get some 2000 grit paper, and just go over your lenses. Don't have to apply alot pressure, just go with the lense. When you wet sand, you're taking the clear coat off, so I'd suggest getting some lamin-x to put on your lenses after you polish them so that they don't fade again. If anything, I wouldn't waste money on the ebay projector lights. You're better off getting a set of the aftermarket DEPO lights for your car.

[Squad Walker]

Thanks, I'll give the cleaning a shot 1st, see how it goes. If it's still bad, I'll look at the Depo's. I'm planning on keeping this car for a while. Wouldn't mind getting some quality headlights.

I've almost got it paid off! I've got $3,000 left... I started at $17k, feels great. When I got it in '03 it only had 40k miles on it, it's got 134k now...

Only work I've had done to it since I've bought it is I changed the timing belt at 97k miles. It went out on me at a red light, luckily it didn't bend a rod. I had gone on an 8 hour trip to New Orleans, Louisiana for the weekend, came back to Dallas & it died two blocks from the house. Lucky.

My clutch however went out on me in Louisiana this past Thanksgiving. That sucked... long story... not so lucky. Anyhow, that's the 2nd thing I've done to it.

Since it's almost paid off I'm ready to start spending some $ on it. First I need to take care of the deterioated head lights, my fraying seatbelt, loose windshield gasket, bulging (but not leaking) sun roof gasket..... oh, and she burns about a quart of oil or so a month....

Nothing too serious really. My biggest challenge is going to be learning everything I can about engines/suspension/turbos etc etc... I'll spend the next few months reading up till i get the car paid off. I've been dropping $500a mo. on it, should be done by November. I always told myself I'd get it paid off before I did something serious to it. I would also like to save 2 or 3 grand to get a daily driver so I can leave her in the garage most of the time.

I've got some serious reading to do...

Thanks again for the advice.

[Prelude1897]

Damn, you live in Dallas? I actually live in Arlington. You should come check out the meets we have every 1st Sunday of each month at Pappas BBQ off Northwest Hwy. in Dallas. There is also going to be a meet this Sat. at Hooters in Arlington off of I-30 and Collins. Here's a thread for more info about that meet http://preludepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264888

[Squad Walker]

Thanks, I'll have to make it out the next Sunday I'm home. I'm headed back to Baton Rouge in the lude this weekend for memorial day. My brother's got an art shop in New Orleans, it's fun to hang out down there.

Need to shine my headlights up as well... I'd be embarassed to show up anywhere to show the car off with the condition that they're in. I'm going to give it a go tomorrow night I believe. I'll try to get before & after pics.

Thanks again for the link. I'll try to catch up with the meet maybe the 1st Sun. in June.



I'll catch

[jimmyznutz]

Damn, you live in Dallas? I actually live in Arlington. You should come check out the meets we have every 1st Sunday of each month at Pappas BBQ off Northwest Hwy. in Dallas. There is also going to be a meet this Sat. at Hooters in Arlington off of I-30 and Collins. Here's a thread for more info about that meet http://preludepower.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264888

That's coincidental. Arlington is where I got my SH. Had to drive up 3 weeks ago and made the deal. Bumpin' town.

[mdpc20653]

there's a few people on po.com and they seem to like them, beats having them made and you have spares, maybe to sell

[mizlude]

I have the newest one peace projectors for the 4th gen and they are not bad but i also have hid so that makes up for a lot of it. so if u do get them get hid 6000k or 8000k

[Hondamugen103]

you dont want the one piece projector headlights trust me, once you get a retrofit you'll never even think about the crapy one piece headlights. the projectors in them suck. thats why i have a retrofit. For anyone thats looking to get one piece projectors check out my sig and you wont be dissapointed. or you can talk with prelude 1897.

[Loppy]

let me correct that for you :)

^ that look like ass.... but any pics with the headlights on??? cutoff directly infront and the sides? view from the driver seat with headlights on?

[preluda97]

any pics of the ebay ones with the headlights on???

[prelude2urloss]

Yo! 1897, what's up man? I've tried emailing you a few times I think but never got a reply. Hey, u still got that pic of the retrofits I sent ya with the S2k projectors? If so, email it to me would ya please? I've lost the copy I had. It was the one taken in the dark with the lights on. I'm still thinking of doing a retro fit. Thanks for your time man!

[Hondamugen103]

I searched this site some & couldn't find one... not sure what other prelude sites are worth searching....

Can anyone suggest another good site to search for head light surface cleaning or maybe a link?

www.hondasociety.com/board

go on there and find the diy section and its under there.

[Mdtdnb]

I'm lookin for the same info too Squad. also, does anyone know how the HID kits on ebay are? They make them for all different bulb styles for around $100 shipped but I haven't heard anything about them yet.

[vervuurt]

Found this picture on ebay... the headlights on...
I read somewhere where they said that the projectors are only for beauty
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/60000222/Images/6/PRO-OP-HP97-BK-PIC.jpg

[Mdtdnb]

I think that may be a demo of the high beams

[Prelude1897]

Yo! 1897, what's up man? I've tried emailing you a few times I think but never got a reply. Hey, u still got that pic of the retrofits I sent ya with the S2k projectors? If so, email it to me would ya please? I've lost the copy I had. It was the one taken in the dark with the lights on. I'm still thinking of doing a retro fit. Thanks for your time man!


My bad for the super late reply. Here are pics of my S2K setup. I have more on my myspace page if you click the link in my sig.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pb3ffe739bb5f4c6d0e28fc64d8aea0ac/e98e43a2.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/pa1f48e838a7f035ba6395203edc30521/e98e4370.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p3fcdb34a57241a343141946d43886512/e98e433d.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid225/p682e43dbe6b268f6c67e6d6f6397784c/e98e42fc.jpg

[Drew]

damn those are hot brian. nice job.

[vervuurt]

The Ebay ones look unique thought...
those from brian dont have a unique look to them

[Drew]

The Ebay ones look unique thought...
those from brian dont have a unique look to them is that supposed to be a good selling point? to me thats like putting a purple colored log of **** next to a slice of pepperoni pizza... c'mon, how often do you see PURPLE ****? no thanks, i'l take the slice of pizza.

this quote was taken from a guy on PP about these exact ebay lights,
Thanks for all the replies!And auctually I have somthing to say to those who are interested in these headlights.Honestly,I wish I would've done a retro instead of buying them,mostly because of the poor quality of these headlights,I'm still working on finding a way to adjust the output due to the whole thing inside off the housing,which is the biggest problem about these headlights.other things aren't as that bad,such as output is better than stock at lease.
ok so the output is better then stock. but so are brians.. as for everything else, that quote speaks for itself.

[ogsmakdade]

brian I thought the s2k ballasts were too big and weren't as easy to adjust as the tsx ones? has something changed or am I just missinformed?

[Prelude1897]

The Ebay ones look unique thought...
those from brian dont have a unique look to them

I don't really try to go for a unique look, I go for more of an OEM look.

is that supposed to be a good selling point? to me thats like putting a purple colored log of **** next to a slice of pepperoni pizza... c'mon, how often do you see PURPLE ****? no thanks, i'l take the slice of pizza.

this quote was taken from a guy on PP about these exact ebay lights,
ok so the output is better then stock. but so are brians.. as for everything else, that quote speaks for itself.

Hahahahaha, purple shiiit? You've gotta be eating some wierd stuff for that to happen. As for my lights or any other retrofit, the light output is going to be better than these cheap ebay projector lights and regular halogen lights....Damn, I wish I would've taken a pic of the ebay lights I had sent to me just to compare

brian I thought the s2k ballasts were too big and weren't as easy to adjust as the tsx ones? has something changed or am I just missinformed?

I'm not running S2K ballast, I'm still using my old skol TL ballast. The S2K projectors are big and they were a pain to make them fit and keep them fully adjustable. It took me almost a month to finally cut them down to size and fit properly and still still beable to use the E46 shrouds :biggrin: I'm actually about to do another S2K retrofit for another member

[Mdtdnb]

ok, so I keep hoping this thread will eventually come up with a solid post about ebay projectors fitted with HID bulbs. everyone is saying things like the light output is better than stock but still crappy even though they look unique and cool etc.etc. I know you get what you pay for but even the ebay ones are running like $300-500 and for that much, those things should be no slouch.

Does anyone have any real feedback or pics of the LOW BEAMS being projected with or w/o HIDs? preferably at night? any recommendations on the which HID kits are high quality (disregarding retrofit)?

[Drew]

I know you get what you pay for but even the ebay ones are running like $300-500 and for that much, those things should be no slouch. well considering a new set of headlights from honda is roughly 500 bucks.. i would say for something that's supposed to be an IMPROVEMENT over stock at 3-500 bucks isnt much of an improvement. i would rather spend the extra 300 to get my lights retrofitted. they are only 300-500 bucks to be competitively priced against the OEM lights and depo lights. i guarantee he could sell them at 200-300 bucks and still have a decent profit margin.

but i would still love to see output pictures of these lights.

[nevrdun]

I dont have personal experience with the 5th gen lights. I agree they do have a fairly cool look to them but I know of a kid with the same brand projector lights for his Civic...terrible low beam. Our shop demo car HAD projectors. Untill we swapped them out for OEM replacements because you couldnt see at night. There was no cut off. You shined against the wall and it just diffused in to random streaks radially. The aftermarket lights dont have any engineering built into them they say it holds this bulb and look cool. I would love to have a retro and the couple guys here that do them do a great job from what I can tell but its just not economical to me. Got some PIAA bulbs and am pretty happy.

[Prelude1897]

ok, so I keep hoping this thread will eventually come up with a solid post about ebay projectors fitted with HID bulbs. everyone is saying things like the light output is better than stock but still crappy even though they look unique and cool etc.etc. I know you get what you pay for but even the ebay ones are running like $300-500 and for that much, those things should be no slouch.

Does anyone have any real feedback or pics of the LOW BEAMS being projected with or w/o HIDs? preferably at night? any recommendations on the which HID kits are high quality (disregarding retrofit)?

Putting HIDs into these cheap ebay projector headlights is going to suck. These projectors aren't designed for HID lighting, they're designed for regular halogen bulbs. The money you spend buying these lights plus HIDs, you may as well have a retrofit done, cause the lighting will be alot better over stock and these ebay headlights

[Mdtdnb]

^^ cool, thanks.

[Re-Lude]

im looking to do the projector HID thing...whats the link to get a hold of the Brian or the guy who does the retro fit? Thanks ;-)

[Prelude1897]

im looking to do the projector HID thing...whats the link to get a hold of the Brian or the guy who does the retro fit? Thanks ;-)

Here you go http://www.myspace.com/bceretrofits or romanticpimp@hotmail.com

[broncosi]

Putting HIDs into these cheap ebay projector headlights is going to suck. These projectors aren't designed for HID lighting, they're designed for regular halogen bulbs.

So what if you took something like this:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/broncosi/projectors.jpg

and put in TSX or TL or a quality projector pieces? because i like this setup.

or these: Chrome (http://www.sabersport.com/Merchant2/images/headlight/LP-HP97CCR-KS.jpg)
Black (http://www.sabersport.com/ebay_gallery/LP-HP97BCR-KS-02.jpg)


And also, whats the problem, can you not get into the back of the headlights?? its look like on ebay theres no seal its all one piece? how are you suppose to replace the bulbs when they burn out.

Also why is it so hard to find a picture of them on? there are plenty of people who have them but no one can take a pic with the head lights on? ive seen parking lights, halos, high beams, but no low beams?

[mckillio]

What exactly is a retro-fit? I really want some projector head lights with a HID system.

[2.2Lude]

in a nut shell its when you take a projecter(from like a BMW,TL..etc) and put it into your headlight..

[Prelude1897]

So what if you took something like this:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/broncosi/projectors.jpg

and put in TSX or TL or a quality projector pieces? because i like this setup.

or these: Chrome (http://www.sabersport.com/Merchant2/images/headlight/LP-HP97CCR-KS.jpg)
Black (http://www.sabersport.com/ebay_gallery/LP-HP97BCR-KS-02.jpg)


And also, whats the problem, can you not get into the back of the headlights?? its look like on ebay theres no seal its all one piece? how are you suppose to replace the bulbs when they burn out.

Also why is it so hard to find a picture of them on? there are plenty of people who have them but no one can take a pic with the head lights on? ive seen parking lights, halos, high beams, but no low beams?

I had a person send me the first version of the cheap ebay projector lights, and I replaced the halogen projector with an E46 single xenon projector(Audi TT) and there isn't too much room in those lights since it sat on the bottom, plus there's only 1 adjustment screw which made it suck even worse since there wasn't too much adjustability like there is with OEM lights

What exactly is a retro-fit? I really want some projector head lights with a HID system.

It's when you take your normal stock headlights and get a set of projectors from lets say TSX and take the projectors from those and place them into your lights. If you click the link in my sig to my myspace page, I have quite a few pics of my work

in a nut shell its when you take a projecter(from like a BMW,TL..etc) and put it into your headlight..

exactly, but don't forget about the bulbs and ballast

[mckillio]

So do any ceartain projectors (retro fitted) work better/higher quality/ease of installation then another? i.e. TSX vs. RL vs. BMW etc.

[1BadBB6]

its a good idea to keep the projector size around 2.5inches, which includes s2k, tsx, and a few others. when you go bigger the more cutting and trouble it is to place. this is bc the top portion of our headlights is much smaller than the bottom.

[mizlude]

you dont want the one piece projector headlights trust me, once you get a retrofit you'll never even think about the crapy one piece headlights. the projectors in them suck. thats why i have a retrofit. For anyone thats looking to get one piece projectors check out my sig and you wont be dissapointed. or you can talk with prelude 1897.


To bad I own them already and I have to tell you that they are the best aftermarket headlights Ive seen. I used to have the duel projectors in my car and they blew big nuts even with hid. Now I have the depo ones with hid and I can see for like a mile ahead of me ( NO JOKE )

hear is what they look like in my car.
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k150/mizlude/1-3048-82651-l-u0x9CPhh3vX3N21q5HLA.jpg

[prelude24]

mikes those are lookin sic

[Pooponurhead]

I decided (since I dont quite have the money, or the will to buy the retrofits) that I'm gonna go with 3B Specialties HID conversion kit...I can get the kits for 130 a piece...6000K....oowee. Should be getting them soon. Ill post pics for those who wish to save a few clams.:cool:

[Sener]

I wouldn't buy any cheap ebay projectors headlights.

Get a pair from BCE retro fitter, & hid them. I think they come with them alredy but if not get a pair of hid's & your good.

[Prelude1897]

So do any ceartain projectors (retro fitted) work better/higher quality/ease of installation then another? i.e. TSX vs. RL vs. BMW etc.


I've had E46, TSX, and now S2K projectors, and I'd have to say that the TSX and S2K projectors are a brighter than the E46's, but the S2K's have a sharper cutoff and more blue/purple color flicker than the TSX's...Some of the hardest projectors to retrofit are Bi-xenon projectors cause you have to cut a lot more so that the solenoids on the projectors will fit. I"ve done a few sets already


Get a pair from BCE retro fitter, & hid them. I think they come with them alredy but if not get a pair of hid's & your good.

He does great work :cool: , and yea the HIDs are included :tongue:

[98PreludeSHTX]

prelude already looks good. don't rice it out

[broncosi]

ok so after deciding between the ebays and a retrofit, i think im finnally ready to take the plunge, the ebays just look like a lot of hassle and a big risk that they arent what i think they are or what the seller is leading me to believe.

So, how do i go about getting one of yall do make me some projectors?

[vervuurt]

I would still go with the ebay ones.
They have a uniquer style then those retrofits and they look pretty.
VERY pretty.
Never seen a retrofit done with angel lights or more lights effects.
And if the lightout put is bad i would fit an HID bulb in the projector.
Don't give a damn about the upcoming traffic.
I have to see...
:D

[Drew]

i think you'll care when you blind someone who's on coming and cause an accident that involves you.

[nevrdun]

No kidding. Thats just ignorant. I almost hit a pedestrian because of a jackass with a 6" lifted truck and hid bulb conversions.

[vervuurt]

No kidding. Thats just ignorant. I almost hit a pedestrian because of a jackass with a 6" lifted truck and hid bulb conversions.

Yeah but remember that my prelude is like 7 inches from the ground.
And I talked to an prelude owner that has these headlights.
He says the headlights there light output isn't rated A+++ but it is better then the stock headlight output.
If its better then stock then its ok with me cause OEM parts are always the best.
So if you can get better then OEM you are kind of already in Heaven :wink:

[1BadBB6]

I decided (since I dont quite have the money, or the will to buy the retrofits) that I'm gonna go with 3B Specialties HID conversion kit...I can get the kits for 130 a piece...6000K....oowee. Should be getting them soon. Ill post pics for those who wish to save a few clams.:cool:

i can give props to these guys they have really good kits and super fast shipping

[1BadBB6]

and as for those ebay headlights you have been warned.

[ilovemylude22]

i bought a pair of led projector headlights from option racing online and i love them...they have great light out put and look great

[broncosi]

got a pic?

[CHILLZ_VTEC]

yeah, ilovemyprelude22, i think i saw the same ones for $300 on robearracing.com....they are too bad, but to me these are more stylish...just need to find out if your able to change out the bulbs, or if the whole back is sealed....

[ilovemylude22]

the ones i bought originally were from option racing and they were about $400 shipped. you can change the bulbs out, i did, cuz the ones that come with them aren't that great. that was about a year ago, but recently i bought retrofitted m3 headlights for the lude.