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Preludeshalyn
02-21-2007, 01:09 AM
Does anyone here know of or ever hear of swapping a 6spd tranny into a 5th gen (give it that extra gear on top to let it chill out on the highway)?

How about upgrades to the ATTS system to beef it up so it can handle more that 250 WHP?

Rory
02-21-2007, 02:04 AM
Sorry. There is no 6speed Tranny Swap. And No.. you cant add a extra gear to the gear box. Some company does however makes a 6 speed tranny for the prelude. Its about $9000. And The 6speed does not let the car CHILL OUT on the highway. Because all they did was make all the gears really short. The 6th is still high revving like your 5th.

The only way to get a 6th speed tranny in your car is to do a complete K series Motor swap. K24 seems to work well now.

Si Speed
02-21-2007, 09:41 AM
Sorry. There is no 6speed Tranny Swap. And No.. you cant add a extra gear to the gear box. Some company does however makes a 6 speed tranny for the prelude. Its about $9000. And The 6speed does not let the car CHILL OUT on the highway. Because all they did was make all the gears really short. The 6th is still high revving like your 5th.

The only way to get a 6th speed tranny in your car is to do a complete K series Motor swap. K24 seems to work well now.

Word.
It's more money than it's worth. Also keep in mind the K24 is rated at 166 hp. You'll need some work to get it back to stock H22 level. If you drive right, the 5 spd outta still get decent mileage. Just set the cruise on the highway or just don't go so fast.

Rory
02-21-2007, 10:15 AM
Word.
It's more money than it's worth. Also keep in mind the K24 is rated at 166 hp. You'll need some work to get it back to stock H22 level. If you drive right, the 5 spd outta still get decent mileage. Just set the cruise on the highway or just don't go so fast.

Sorry Buddy But you thinking of the wrong K24. Not the Accord... The TSX BITCH.. lol 200hp ponies.

Prelude13
02-22-2007, 08:57 AM
You can surely rebuild your transmission and adjust the 5th gear ratio if you dont like how it "cruises" on the highway...$$$$

as for ATTS, if you have it, enjoy it. It's for the long twisties, S turns and it can do things Civics and "other" cars cant do. :yo:

THE ONE
02-22-2007, 06:28 PM
Sorry Buddy But you thinking of the wrong K24. Not the Accord... The TSX BITCH.. lol 200hp ponies.

depending on where your from the TSX is an accord:wink: . And in those places the "TSX" does not even exist.

Rory
02-22-2007, 06:33 PM
depending on where your from the TSX is an accord:wink: . And in those places the "TSX" does not even exist.

Well.. If he's in the US of A. The TSX has more horses then the accord.
And If he is any where else. The Accord has more horses then The Us Accords. So either way. They are the same car. TSX Motor all the way. Or NON US ACCORD MOTORS.. lol

95h22a1turbo
02-23-2007, 03:16 AM
Does anyone here know of or ever hear of swapping a 6spd tranny into a 5th gen (give it that extra gear on top to let it chill out on the highway)?

How about upgrades to the ATTS system to beef it up so it can handle more that 250 WHP?

forget the 6speed and just forget the atts. its no use. just get an h23 tranny and call it a day buddy.
less money and less headache.


ps- I DO NOT BELIEVE IN K- SERIES. one of the best motors honda ever built was the B, C, D, F and H series. Intellegint Vtec... only for gas miles...... and u could always have H24. and have more torque :-)

Si Speed
02-23-2007, 09:35 AM
Sorry Buddy But you thinking of the wrong K24. Not the Accord... The TSX BITCH.. lol 200hp ponies.

Yeah I guess I was. :redface:
In that case, it's a diffrent story when we talk about the TSX and everywhere else but America Accord.
Acura is going on sale in Japan. I forget when, I think 08, correct me on that though.
I wonder if they'll sell the TSX and American Accord or what they'll do with that.

Rory
02-23-2007, 10:41 AM
Yeah I guess I was. :redface:
In that case, it's a diffrent story when we talk about the TSX and everywhere else but America Accord.
Acura is going on sale in Japan. I forget when, I think 08, correct me on that though.
I wonder if they'll sell the TSX and American Accord or what they'll do with that.

Acura been selling in japan. Its was just named honda. lol. But you right. I think the Acura RL, TL and the US accord was not being sold there.

Si Speed
02-23-2007, 02:30 PM
Acura been selling in japan. Its was just named honda. lol. But you right. I think the Acura RL, TL and the US accord was not being sold there.

I meant under the Acura badge. Lexus and Infiniti are already sold over there so Honda decided to start selling Acura.

Rory
02-23-2007, 02:58 PM
I meant under the Acura badge. Lexus and Infiniti are already sold over there so Honda decided to start selling Acura.

Really... Thats kinda cool.. i guess. No more JDM Integra. lol

Preludeshalyn
02-23-2007, 05:32 PM
forget the 6speed and just forget the atts. its no use. just get an h23 tranny and call it a day buddy.
less money and less headache.

actually i bought the car for the ATTS.

Rory
02-23-2007, 05:50 PM
forget the 6speed and just forget the atts. its no use. just get an h23 tranny and call it a day buddy.
less money and less headache.


ps- I DO NOT BELIEVE IN K- SERIES. one of the best motors honda ever built was the B, C, D, F and H series. Intellegint Vtec... only for gas miles...... and u could always have H24. and have more torque :-)


Hey Buddy. The atts make you handle alot better. It works. And For the H23 Tranny. Go do some homework. 3rd, 4th, and 5th, gears in both the H23 and H22 Trannys have the same gear ratio. Only first and second was changed to stay in Vtec range.

So basicly. If he got a h23 tranny. His car would be slower and use the same amount of gas on the highway with the same rev.

BB615
02-23-2007, 06:34 PM
forget the 6speed and just forget the atts. its no use. just get an h23 tranny and call it a day buddy.
less money and less headache.


ps- I DO NOT BELIEVE IN K- SERIES. one of the best motors honda ever built was the B, C, D, F and H series. Intellegint Vtec... only for gas miles...... and u could always have H24. and have more torque :-)

Omahgush:eek: ! I haven't been on here in awhile and I log on to read this foolishness again?

Why does he or she need a h23 tranny when he has a h22 tranny already? Please explain... From reading the first few threads on here I see that a lot people have given up on you. So please elaborate a little bit for us so we can get an understanding that it seems EVERYBODY on this forum is lacking.

Now for your less money less headache comment....

Do you know what it would cost to switch a sh to a base when speaking of changing transmissions? you need to change a hell of a lot more than a damn transmission. I won't get into it with you guy. Because it seems you know everything when in reality you know nothing.

95h22a1turbo
02-24-2007, 04:18 PM
Hey Buddy. The atts make you handle alot better. It works. And For the H23 Tranny. Go do some homework. 3rd, 4th, and 5th, gears in both the H23 and H22 Trannys have the same gear ratio. Only first and second was changed to stay in Vtec range.

So basicly. If he got a h23 tranny. His car would be slower and use the same amount of gas on the highway with the same rev.

lol ur dumb ass hell. h23 have the longer gears than any h22 tranny moron. 4th gear ends at 110 on h22 tranny and for the h23 tranny about 130+ moron.. go do some homework.

everyone- b16 and H22 have almost same gear ratio except the final drive.
u should go do some hw.

95h22a1turbo
02-24-2007, 04:22 PM
Omahgush:eek: ! I haven't been on here in awhile and I log on to read this foolishness again?

Why does he or she need a h23 tranny when he has a h22 tranny already? Please explain... From reading the first few threads on here I see that a lot people have given up on you. So please elaborate a little bit for us so we can get an understanding that it seems EVERYBODY on this forum is lacking.

Now for your less money less headache comment....

Do you know what it would cost to switch a sh to a base when speaking of changing transmissions? you need to change a hell of a lot more than a damn transmission. I won't get into it with you guy. Because it seems you know everything when in reality you know nothing.
buddy to change h22 tranny to h23 tranny is not that hard. when u put new clutch in... just put h23 tranny in instead of puttin original h22 tranny. thats it.


most of in this fourm really dont know about their preludes. now where admin.


one questions to rory.... which gears are longer the usdm h22? or jdmh22 tranny???
oh also... u seen worlds fastest prelude???? i believe he ran 10.9. and wat kind of tranny does he use???? and do u need close gear ratio for boostin or longer gear for boosting?????? just tell those answers. i dont think u know any stuff about turbo mods. rory.

Rory
02-24-2007, 04:43 PM
Kid.. get some help. I HAVE ... The H23a Tranny in my car.. Go suck a civic.
It ends at 110. How you love that.. BITCH... to prove you that ****.. I will make a video just for you it ends at 110.

And if i dont know how to make a turbo car fast. Y is your car so much slower.

Rory
02-24-2007, 05:13 PM
4th gen h23a
1st 3.307
2nd 1.857
3rd 1.320
4th 1.034
5th 0.812
FD- 4.266

5th Gen h22a
1st 3.285
2nd 1.956
3rd 1.344
4th 1.034
5th 0.812
FD 4.266

Ok so 3rd is shorter.
But 4th and 5th are the same.
HOME WORK Bitch.
Go suck a civic.

98vtec
02-24-2007, 06:11 PM
forget the 6speed and just forget the atts. its no use. just get an h23 tranny and call it a day buddy.
less money and less headache.


ps- I DO NOT BELIEVE IN K- SERIES. one of the best motors honda ever built was the B, C, D, F and H series. Intellegint Vtec... only for gas miles...... and u could always have H24. and have more torque :-)

try getting any of those motors to put out the power of a k20. I love the h22, but you are talking out of your ass. Its called bias, and its strong with you.

not to mention that stock k series heads flow like ported b, h heads.

Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance.

98vtec
02-24-2007, 06:12 PM
rory, dont waste your time arguing with him. You are just stooping to his level.

deafy
02-24-2007, 07:24 PM
ps- I DO NOT BELIEVE IN K- SERIES. one of the best motors honda ever built was the B, C, D, F and H series. Intellegint Vtec... only for gas miles...... and u could always have H24. and have more torque :-)

I'm an H-series guy myself but I show props to the K-series with Hondata K-Pro... Thats where you manipulate the "intelligent vtec" for more HP, its not ONLY for gas miles.

THE ONE
02-24-2007, 08:58 PM
buddy to change h22 tranny to h23 tranny is not that hard. when u put new clutch in... just put h23 tranny in instead of puttin original h22 tranny. thats it.

to put a different tranny on a type SH is not that simple trust me on that. If that's hard for you to believe maybe you should buy a type sh and change the tranny to a h23 tranny and see if it's a direct swap. Your going to be in for a few surprises.



lol ur dumb ass hell. h23 have the longer gears than any h22 tranny moron.

No need for name calling. Take that as your fare first and last warning.

Preludeshalyn
02-24-2007, 10:04 PM
this thread is about as useful as tits on a nun. just close it.

Rory
02-24-2007, 10:08 PM
well at least i proved that having a h23 will not solve anything.

Preludeshalyn
02-24-2007, 10:11 PM
anyone thats actually thought about getting a 6spd in a lude has already done the homework and figgured all this **** out. all i was wondering was if there was a company that produced a product that would beef up an atts, or fit a 6spd tranny to an h22. i don't car about motor swaps. if i wanted a k20 i wouldn't have bought a prelude. if i wanted an lsd i wouln't have gone out of my way for a type sh. i have what i want. i just want to make it better.

Rory
02-24-2007, 11:28 PM
well i dont believe there is much for the atts system. But there is no 6 speed to help. and the h23 will not help also. I dont know know much about beefing the atts up. But i would be glad to ask the guys over here that work on preludes alot. They may know something.

Preludeshalyn
02-24-2007, 11:30 PM
i would appreciate it.

ogsmakdade
02-24-2007, 11:59 PM
depending on where your from the TSX is an accord:wink: . And in those places the "TSX" does not even exist.

Acura has expanded its product line to european dealerships........
but has no plans to make a move to japan.

THE ONE
02-25-2007, 03:08 PM
honda has not release the programming for atts unit so you can't manipulate it what so ever. hondata and aem both have illustrated interest in tuning the system but honda has neglected to comply for reasons very visible. I.e. the new RL SH...

Preludeshalyn
02-25-2007, 04:32 PM
yeah i was hoping the release of the new mdx w/ the sh awd would come w/ some upgrades for the ATTS

deafy
02-25-2007, 05:24 PM
that'd be pretty b*tchin...

ogsmakdade
02-25-2007, 08:01 PM
^ exactly why I went out of my way to find a base model, 5sp, spoilerless. I didn't want to deal w/ the atts crap because you can't do anything to it.