View Full Version : :::htswmr6::: 1996 2.2 S
htswmr6
10-18-2006, 09:44 PM
Before
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After
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/htswmr6/img313.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/htswmr6/img311.jpg
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/htswmr6/img312.jpg
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Interior
Autometer Cobalt series gauges (a/f, boost, oil pressure, egt)
Apex SAFC2
Apex Turbo Timer
Type R shift knob
Aluminum Ebrake
Pioneer Head unit
Memphis 6 1/2 competition speakers all around
Kicker 12's in the trunk
Exterior
Rollers
17" Racing Hart C4
R-1 Coilovers
Engine
Carrillo Rods
Wiseco pistons
King Bearings
MLS head gasket
Custom fab'd J-pipe
Custom turbo kit
Dsm Manifold
Dsm 450 Injectors
255 Walbro Fuel pump
16g Dsm turbo
custom intercooler piping
Greddy type S blow off valve
Manual Boost Controller
Ebay intercooler
Chipped p06 from MRX
Custom downpipe
OBX resonator
Apex N-1 Exhaust
Koyo All aluminum race radiator
Gripforce stage three racing clutch
Future Mods
seibon carbon fiber lip
Wings west side skirts and rear bumper valance
carbon fiber hood
twokexlv6coupe
10-18-2006, 09:58 PM
haha, i think that intercooler is a lil overkill, unless your pushing 500hp @ 18psi. but now that you already went thru the hassle of cutting away your bumper support, why switch to a smaller intercooler now??
and can you please take the park bench off the trunk??
your car would look flawless w/o it!!
p.s: i love the color too
htswmr6
10-18-2006, 10:02 PM
ya the intercooler is a bit big company sent the wrong size i sent it back they sent me the sameone i said screw it and put it on. I agree the spoiler is going to go but it is prob going to be awhile before it goes. I would like to get a carbon fiber one single deck real low or maybe a stock one. I got this one to see how i liked it or what not.
na93prepre
10-18-2006, 10:10 PM
Twoke, again I agree - haha. It sadends me when people put circus wings on the ludes. I'd say stock or none. Just my .02 anyhow besides that the car is nice. I say drive around without the front bumper. That intercooler is intimidating, ;0). What color is that?
ps good pix for a camera phone
htswmr6
10-18-2006, 10:15 PM
the color is stock red uhm sun faded and taken with a camera phone. One of my friends has an sti and he was saying the samething that if i pulled up to him without the bumper on and he saw that big of an intercooler he wouldnt race me. I think he was jsut being nice if i had an sti i would be racing everything that pulled up next to me.
Prelude13
10-19-2006, 11:41 AM
Wing or not, your car is amazing. :tup:
I agree, that huge intercooler would intimidate STI's, or any f******' car!!
So you're just using the SAFC II to tune?
Nice Prelude man, love it!
:smirk:
htswmr6
10-19-2006, 11:46 AM
Nope. the safc is good to tune small increments of fuel but it cant change timing and spark so i got a chipped ecu from MRX with the basemap for running boost on an f22 he has a lot of them from the accord folks, but i want to get into tuning with neptune or something else. I can tell i am running really rich right now which is cool in my opinion that is easier on the wallet then a new engine to detination. there are just no shops around my area that use tuning programs. the guy that tuned my car for what it is now said it has helped a lot in dialing the right amount of fuel on the dyno, but i am still very leary of the tune using only the safc. Iwouldnt even use it if i was running the regular computer, but at least i have the basemap.
Si Speed
10-19-2006, 11:55 AM
Like stated above, looks good minus the delta airlines wing. Boosted Ludes rule!
Prelude13
10-19-2006, 11:56 AM
Yes, i agree.
I too have an SAFC.
It's nothing great, but one can get by :rolleyes:
You should look into Crome or megasquirt and check out www.pgmfi.org.
Oh, and the Greddy Blow off valve is one of my favorite sounding BOV's...that "WOOOOOOOOOOOSH- KACHEEEE!" is the best! :tup:
htswmr6
10-19-2006, 12:02 PM
ya i have been looking into the megasquirt but if i go that route i am going to need to do it after graduating i am a marketing major not an engineering major so it is pretty rough for me to dedicate my time to learning all the terms and such right now. I love the greddy!!! it sucks right now cause i dont have a downpipe for my car just yet so i cant hear it over the engine.
na93prepre
10-19-2006, 01:38 PM
I got a P28 ecu with H22 basemaps and some other goodies with Crome and I believe it's tunable on the dyno (correct me if I'm wrong>>please). It cost me $175 shipped. Ecu and all. If you send your own ECU its about $85 shipped back to you. I got it from Phearable. Maybe you could benifiet a little more from one of those ECU's?
edge2lyfe
12-05-2006, 10:47 AM
Don't know if this was already covered but are you able to install the front bumper over the IC?
htswmr6
12-05-2006, 12:24 PM
not without cutting off the bottom of it where the intercooler sits. it sticks out too far and the bumper wont fit unless it is cut out. it looks stupid but i have too many bills to pay right now and not enough funds to buy an aftermarket one or get a smaller intercooler right now.
black_prelude97
12-05-2006, 12:44 PM
NIce i love it... thats the f22 right? my buddy has got a turboed 94 si with a h23 non vtec its so fast lol
mysticskyline
12-05-2006, 01:30 PM
I was just curious, why boost an F22? Not saying its bad, just why? better to do an H22a swap. Your car does look nice dude with/out the wing, though, yet you need downforce.
htswmr6
12-05-2006, 09:24 PM
from what i read the f22 series takes to boost better then the h series. granted the h22 and 3 have higher numbers the sleeves are aluminum but the f series are steel, steel is stronger. i really want to get the f22b after this engine goes. i want to build off of that platform since it is the sister engine of the h23 here. this was the first time that i did this type of mod so it is kinda a learning experience it was the engine in the car and so forth so i figured i would run with it. i think the f22b could handle boost better on a daily driver street car, unless a fully built engine is thrown in. it is something that isnt done all the time it is different. if i wanted 1000 whp i would get a supra or skyline (funds pending) but i am happy with 200 to 300 whp. it is just something fun to have. spoiler will go when i have enough to replace the trunk i cant drive it with holes in the trunk it rains and snows here.
mysticskyline
12-05-2006, 10:38 PM
I never knew that about the F22, but just to let you know AEMs civic runs a 1200 HP H22A. Understand the spoiler though, rains and snows here too.
htswmr6
12-05-2006, 11:21 PM
oh no i agree with you the h22 would be a better platform if i wanted to rebuild and resleeve the whole nine yards the h22 is the way to go. dont get my wrong i love my prelude but it is not the worlds fastest car. it would be so much easier to go with a more performance orientated car if i wanted the horsepower. so i am conent with what i can safely get out of it.
mysticskyline
12-05-2006, 11:23 PM
I dig what you are saying, just need something for right now. When you're older, you will get something with more oomph!.
black_prelude97
12-06-2006, 09:03 AM
i was reading up on stuff n i was talking to my buddy your right the f seriors does handle boost better (with stoke internals)he said you can run like max 10 on the h23, h23. On the f22 he said you can run something like 12-13 depending on how worn the engine is
htswmr6
12-06-2006, 03:53 PM
ya they are not too bad of an engine if ur looking for medium range whp figures i want to get started in autox and road racing so i am not lookin for a 500whp so it will work good for me.
rheakpl
12-06-2006, 11:16 PM
nice..yea wings a little...grocery kart ish but cool =]
yea f22 is technically stronger and can handle boost better..
plus cheaper to replace if it were to blow..
mysticskyline
12-07-2006, 12:32 AM
I have seen an H22 pushin nearly 30 PSi on full sutom setup.
htswmr6
12-07-2006, 01:28 PM
oh i dont doubt it, but i can tell you that there would be no way i would spend the amount of money necessary just to prep the engine to handle something like that. i would rather just buy a new car that is able to run higher horsepower with less work. taking the easy way out!
mysticskyline
12-14-2006, 11:33 PM
That is true, I would have to have full sponsorship from HKS for that!
Attaus
12-14-2006, 11:48 PM
Honestly you should just pop that wing off. Looking finished isn't your main concern (missing a front bumper and all -- not bad imo) and without the spoiler it would look sooooo clean. I understand what you're saying about money, but unscrewing some bolts is free until you get a new one.
Otherwise, cool car. Well done budget car.
twokexlv6coupe
12-15-2006, 12:34 AM
i am a marketing major not an engineering major so it is pretty rough for me to dedicate my time to learning all the terms and such right now.
hahahaahhahaha. i love bein an engineer, cuz everything i learn 'bout my car, ima be using in my career (hopefully)
but i also do h/w til 'bout 2am.... everyday. :redface:
htswmr6
12-17-2006, 08:04 AM
no joke man i hear that about homework luckly i graduated yesterday, but now i have to study for the LSAT and then law school after that. COllege never ends man.
htswmr6
02-08-2007, 12:05 PM
i didn't know where to post this i think i saw somewhere we had a post going, anyway last night i was reading about how SI Speed got his new exhaust on and i was a bit critcal of his exhaust note so i made a video of of mine for criticisims and such. i took the video with my phone so it is all pixilated, but the audio isnt bad. i have a turbo setup with a cutsom downpipe and obx high flow cat to N1 Apex cat-back exhaust.
http://s133.photobucket.com/albums/q42/htswmr6/?action=view¤t=300.flv
dakilla4ever
02-08-2007, 01:33 PM
What kinda numbers you puttin out? Did you resleeve the block? How much psi you run daily? IS IT RELIABLE? looks really good though.
htswmr6
02-08-2007, 01:43 PM
right now the highest whp we got was 200 and 215 torque but that was with a clutch that wont hold so we have to let go soon or blow the clutch and with the tuning not complete we are thinking about 210 to 220 will be the final numbers on whp. 10 psi at max dd it is about 5 to 7. it is reliable if it isnt 0 degrees out it starts up just fine above freezing and runs great. did not resleeve the sleeves on the f22's is steel not aluminum like the H's
na93prepre
02-08-2007, 09:16 PM
How could are the steel sleeves?
htswmr6
02-08-2007, 11:07 PM
i am sorry not sure what your asking?
na93prepre
02-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Lmao I just seen what I wrote - hahah. o god! I ment to say How good is it with steel sleeves versus the H22 setup? Pro's/Con's????
twokexlv6coupe
02-08-2007, 11:29 PM
f22 iron sleeves >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> H frm sleeves
period.
i likey the exhaust too :cool:
htswmr6
02-08-2007, 11:37 PM
its all good, i was just confused. the pros and cons are pretty straight-forward. the h22 is a better stock NA engine then the f22 is (DOCH vs SOHC), h22 has a higher compression which can be argued for both NA and boost i have seen many arguements for high compression and low compression depending on the set up in my opinion lower compression is key no matter what. the f22 has 8.5 to 1 compression which is more boost friendly. i could be wrong on if it is steel or iron i originally thought iron but i think someone corrected me once telling me they are steel. either way they are better then aluminum like the h22, if u went through the whole resleeving process then the h22 will be better suited for the boost just like the f22. i have seen f22s run 400 or a bit higher i think about 450 as a daily driver the h22 can handle maybe 500 to 600 reliable i know of one that is a daily driver that has 700 but how much daily driver differs by person so that could just be to and from the track. the f22 is cheaper when it gets blown only about 700 to replace. i think the f22 would be a better autocross engine with the boost, i have zero lag just a touch and i have 5 lbs right away and ten doesnt come slowly after that. the trans on the f22 is better in my opinion the gears are longer so u can stay in a lower gear longer, good for cornering and maintaining boost. i could have done a swap for a few grand and had the same horsepower as i have now. the turbo for me was cheaper and easier plus i learned something.
Brash22
02-12-2007, 02:04 AM
Me likes car. And about the wing, all I'd do is built shorter struts for it so it sits closer to the deck. Dunno if this has been covered, but have you run a quarter time yet?
htswmr6
02-12-2007, 11:19 AM
thanks man, have taken the wing off but i still have the brackets on the car. i havent had a chance to run a quarter i think it would suck real bad until i had a clutch that could grip and a set of tires that are good right now i only have the rubbers that came with the rims when i ordered them, i am looking to upgrade them when these run out and i have my suspension dialed in right.
htswmr6
02-26-2007, 10:54 PM
i updated my pics on the front page here. scope it out let me know what u think. i was finally able to get some heat wrap and wrap my manifold, but other then just some exterior mods.
Brash22
02-27-2007, 04:31 PM
Still looking good mate.
gr8balla465
03-21-2007, 11:27 PM
wow dats a huge intercooler, but still looks good
my4thgenlude
04-06-2007, 07:33 PM
getta bumper and ur good, egay the wing, maybe reclear ur paint and ur goood with cosmetics for awhile, that color is too sexcii...
96prelude
08-24-2007, 12:22 PM
sweet lude!
PepsiOne
09-18-2007, 11:33 PM
damn that's a huge intercooler...looks good wingless..
thomas97
01-25-2008, 06:07 PM
im in illinois too, where you at?
pm me maybe we can meet?
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