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Si Speed
07-01-2008, 01:30 AM
If something seems a little different about the site, you're right! Some subtle changes have been made.

First, the biggest change anybody will noticed is there is no more street racing section. Some of you are probably upset about it, but by having it, it sets a bad example for the little ones, not to mention supports the stereotype of all Honda drivers being ricers. It's also illegal, irresponsible, and dangerous. I also found it hypocritical that it said that we didn't condone street racing, yet had a section dedicated to it. Problem solved. From now on, no more street racing here. Any threads that pop up that involve this juvenile act will result in 2 infraction points. Second offense will be a temporary ban, third offense will be permanent. These penalties are subject to change at the moderator's discretion and/or the violating member's attitude. The point of this is to lead by example. The track section will remain so if you have a heavy foot, do it on the track and then come tell us how you ran a 15.4 in your stock 5th gen and the stock hatch beside you stalled out at the start.


For the donors, the VIP section has been deleted. Not sure why it was ever there but it was extremely inactive and you guys aren't likely to miss it. There is a chance that you guys will get your names turned back normal but keep the donor icon and everything else you got for being a donor. If anyone seriously opposes that, then we can talk but otherwise, the yellow doesn't even match the site. We'll also b getting a new donating system up soon so anybody can donate however much their little heart feels. When this happens, anybody who donates $10+ will receive two PZ stickers from me. Neon will decide when this goes into effect though.

I saw several grammar errors in the descriptions of the different forums, so all those have been updated. I also noticed that the Site News' description still had "PT" in it. Most of you don't even know this used to be called preludetech. That's what that was about.

From now on, when you post a vehicle for sale, there is a new template to follow. It's fairly simple and is stickied in the "Vehicles for Sale" section. Failure to follow will result in a verbal warning to fix it. If it's not done promptly, the thread will be deleted.

All of you are aware of the 50 post rule to start a thread in the Classified section. Because of some of the whoring problems we've had to hit that illustrious 50 post mark, in order to benefit all you faithful members, the classified section isn't even visible until 50 posts are reached, then they can do everything you can. I'm aware someone will post a sale thread randomly anyway and we will continue to delete, warn, and ban as seen fit. My advice is to just ignore them and especially don't buy from them. They will be handled, usually within a matter of minutes, as long as Nick or myself is online. At the very worst, it'll take a couple of hours for a mod to sign on and take notice but you can just ignore it and go on, we'll take care of ya.

I also renamed "Racer's Edge" to "The Pit" so that there's no confusion about street racing there, as I hope none of you are stupid enough to be racing a Prelude on any other surface. I also broadened "The Strip" to involve all kinds of controlled environment racing. I'm aware that name may sound kind of dull but it's 2:00 AM. Gimme a break. If you have anything better, post it. I'll rep you if we use it.

User titles have been slightly altered. The new rankings go as follows:

Rank/Post Count
n00b 0
Junior Member 50
Bronze Member 100
Silver Member 250
Gold Member 500
Platinum Member 1000
Grand Member 3000
Supreme Member 5000

Registered members can now see who gave them reputation and see any comments left. Not sure why it wasn't like that the whole time but just click "My Profile" and it's on the right.


Now, to future changes.
Because some people can't read, we are going to alter Ride of the Month starting in August. There is going to be a whole new forum dedicated to ROTM nominating and voting. The current rules will still apply, but there will be a few added. The threads will remain in that section and simply be closed when they are no longer used, that way you all can reference back to the past threads if needed. I'm going to try to scratch up some or all of the old threads and move them in there, but I'm not making any promises. When making the nomination threads, there will also be more organization, and because some people refuse to read and other simply don't know the past winners are listed in the rules section, all ineligible winners will be listed in every nomination thread for easy reference for who can't be nominated.

As far as an idea that was recently brought up to get more people involved in voting, I'll let Neon speak on if having the ROTM poll on the home page will happen or not. It's a good idea and if it can be done, I feel like it will be, but it's not my call. Anyway, if anyone has any questions or comments, post them here.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 10:18 AM
so wait...the "pavement" what would you talk about? How you drove 70 on the highway and saw a ricer pass you? Or something about back roads? To me the pavement is the street, which would lead to people talking about how they smoked this geo metro in I95.

Pooponurhead
07-01-2008, 10:55 AM
Good point Steph.

I really do like the way PZ works. It's so friggin organized. Anywhere else, EVERY thread becomes a whore/flame fest. It's ridiculous. Even on PP, I've had some old threads that i specifically asked to be closed/deleted, and they're STILL being brought back to life ever couple weeks. I dunno. But kudos to you guys for keeping PZ awesome.

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Si Speed
07-01-2008, 12:53 PM
You're right. Let's name it "Everything related to racing except street racing."
It rolls right off the tongue.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 01:36 PM
what wold everything else be besides street racing on the pavement?

OEM~KaOs
07-01-2008, 02:20 PM
I also found it hypocritical that it said that we didn't condone street racing, yet had a section dedicated to it. Problem solved.


How is it hypocritical to say that we didn't condone street racing but had a section for it? We DIDN'T condone it, people did it of their own free will and then posted about it, it's not like people on here are saying "Dude, go out and race, then tell us about it on the internet, I NEED know what happened!" Just because we had a section doesn't mean you had to post in it...idk, just my 2 cents...

I honestly don't care that it's gone, i don't think I ever posted in it, but you get what im saying...

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 02:38 PM
Well it's like a doctor having an abortion clinic and saying he doesn't condone it and justifies having it because is nurses do the work and not him.
Everything else would be legal racing in a controlled, closed course environment.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 02:39 PM
so like...the strip aka track? why the need for 2 of those types of forums?

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 02:45 PM
Strip, road course, auto-x, oval, that stuff is included.
Are you really that stupid to not understand? Before, the section was only for racing on the strip, now it's broadened to cover all forms of legal racing. It's not that hard that there are 2 sections there now, 1 for legal racing, 1 for what happened, and none for street racing.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 02:50 PM
Are you that dense to not understand what im saying?!?!?!

You have "THE PAVEMENT" which is known as the STREET. So there for would include driving fast on the street which you said is irresponsible. So why even have that section? You also said "Everything related to racing except street racing." So tell me what there is to do on this "pavement" other than street racing.

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 02:51 PM
And that's why I said give me something better to work with instead of arguing about it if you don' like it.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 02:53 PM
well if it has anything to do with the streets it doesnt need a forum. The track forum is perfectly fine, so no need for a useless pavement type forum.

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 02:57 PM
It also needs to include the "What happened?" section in the title.

OEM~KaOs
07-01-2008, 03:00 PM
Children...let's play nice here, or we are gonna have to separate you two....

Oh wait, that already happened...

How about "Going Fast" = problem solved! :biggrin:

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 03:02 PM
Rep for you my Rhys!!

You say you want nothing to do with street racing or twisties or any type of irresponsible driving on the streets so just remove all of it and keep the what happened for off topic stuff and the Track forum for everything at the track.

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 03:05 PM
But what happened isn't off topic.
Here's an idea, why don't we keep it like it is! Crazy thought, I know, but it just might work.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 03:09 PM
making no sense once again.

You wanted feedback so I gave it to you. You are contradicting yourself with absolutely wanting NOTHING to do with street racing yet want a pavement section. So once again tell me what kind of stuff is involved in this pavement section. What are you thinking as far as posts and threads go in there?

Pooponurhead
07-01-2008, 03:26 PM
Okay okay okay! SHIZNIT! How about this... We have a section called "The Pavement"....and inside that section, we could have "What Happened" and "Racing". "The Pavement" won't have anywhere to post anything inside it, just the two sunsections. Get me?
Now, here's where it gets fun. Leave the little details about "what happened" the same, but mke the detail under Racing something like this..."We at PZ do not condone street racing of any kind. Any street racing related threads will be deleted and the poster will be dealt with accordingly.
Done.

Now stop fighting. Dang.

BadMofo
07-01-2008, 03:27 PM
Jesus Christ are you two married yet? Do I need to call up Mills Lane? lol...

Anywho, I love PZ, always have, and always will... I have no qualms with the current and/or future changes. =) That's my .02

Edit:

I like poop's idea :-)

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 03:30 PM
Jesus Christ are you two married yet?


OH HELL NO! haha

And yeah poop thats a great idea!

Pooponurhead
07-01-2008, 03:33 PM
I aim to please.:smile:

OEM~KaOs
07-01-2008, 03:34 PM
Agreed with Poop's idea, I like the idea's that come out of poop lol :biggrin:

Pooponurhead
07-01-2008, 03:37 PM
Great pun there, bud.

hotrod
07-01-2008, 03:46 PM
take poop's idea and change it to "the pit", which implies a more controlled racing environment than street.

OEM~KaOs
07-01-2008, 03:56 PM
Great pun there, bud.

pun....? I was being serious ! lol

LittleFoot
07-01-2008, 05:04 PM
take poop's idea and change it to "the pit", which implies a more controlled racing environment than street.

I like "the pit", it implies legal racing....as for everything else sounds good. On a side note...not to stir up trouble but I do think of street racing when I hear "the pavement" :tongue:

hojemwod
07-01-2008, 05:45 PM
nooooo not the street racing what am i gonna do with myself now??!! jk street racing is ricey as fuk imo no offense meant to anyone though

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 08:39 PM
making no sense once again.

You wanted feedback so I gave it to you. You are contradicting yourself with absolutely wanting NOTHING to do with street racing yet want a pavement section. So once again tell me what kind of stuff is involved in this pavement section. What are you thinking as far as posts and threads go in there?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d53/si_lude/Thread%20Killers/stfuwoman.jpg

For a girl who claims to hate drama, you sure keep yourself in a lot of it.
You didn't give feedback, you gave nonsense. I never said I wanted the name, that was just the only thing I could think of at 2:00 AM. If I intended to keep it, I would have never asked for input for a new name.

Okay okay okay! SHIZNIT! How about this... We have a section called "The Pavement"....and inside that section, we could have "What Happened" and "Racing". "The Pavement" won't have anywhere to post anything inside it, just the two sunsections. Get me?
Now, here's where it gets fun. Leave the little details about "what happened" the same, but mke the detail under Racing something like this..."We at PZ do not condone street racing of any kind. Any street racing related threads will be deleted and the poster will be dealt with accordingly.
Done.

Now stop fighting. Dang.

That's how we have it right now except for the street racing statement. I'll add that in there though. Good idea.

take poop's idea and change it to "the pit", which implies a more controlled racing environment than street.

Was that so hard?
Thank you Ed.

99PreludeSh
07-01-2008, 09:27 PM
edit:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM headshot!

Pooponurhead
07-01-2008, 09:42 PM
/thread?

Surrriously.

hotrod
07-01-2008, 10:12 PM
good idea poop. before this turns into a whore-fest. :lock1:

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 10:25 PM
Re-opened.
The dispute has been settled.

Now, anyone else have ideas and why they should be done?

OEM~KaOs
07-01-2008, 10:28 PM
edit:

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM headshot!

lmao....im fuking exhausted from softball and i cannot stop laughing...lmao

sorry, i know this doesn't contribute at all....haha

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 10:38 PM
lmao....im fuking exhausted from softball and i cannot stop laughing...lmao

sorry, i know this doesn't contribute at all....haha

You can paypal some money to neon to help server costs. That'd contribute to everyone.

OEM~KaOs
07-01-2008, 10:48 PM
You can paypal some money to neon to help server costs. That'd contribute to everyone.

Oh, don't you worry E, I am becoming a Donor soon enough, just don't get your panties in a bundle because I'm having a good time and laughing

Si Speed
07-01-2008, 10:48 PM
Regular members can see who gave them reputation now. Not sure why it wasn't like that the whole time but just click "My Profile" and it's on the right.
No more whoreslounge. Everything that went there now goes in regular OT.

THE ONE
07-01-2008, 11:29 PM
Your Doing a great job in My absense E Keep it up! But please keep the bickering to a minumum.














































































Thank you...

Si Speed
07-02-2008, 12:37 AM
It's over.
Please don't get me started again.
Thank you.


It has been brought to my attention that something needs to be doe with the media section. Looks like we'll be adding a photography section for everything not car related. What would work best for everyone?
I'm thinking about merging the current picture thread with videos and have that dedicated for all things car related or have the video section as a child forum to that, have member's rides by itself, then have "Personal Photography" for everything else you've taken pictures of. ROTM be going to be getting an all new section so I'm trying to clean things up to keep it from getting too cluttered.
Stephanie, bring forth the ideas you presented on AIM so we can get some more points of view and see what works out best.

94ludeguy
07-02-2008, 12:59 AM
maybe when you have ROTM forum have the members rides a subforum or something like that or maybe visa versa....just throwing that out there. hell just have both of them have their own forum

i like the idea of the photography section that you mentioned

Si Speed
07-02-2008, 01:02 AM
Well, memeber's rides will still be used in the threads for rotm, but not every member has or will win so that's better off in regular media. keep thinking though, and make me a sig like yours.

94ludeguy
07-02-2008, 01:12 AM
nick made me my sig. i have no photoshopping **** on my computer:frown:

Prelude13
07-02-2008, 11:08 AM
It's over.
Please don't get me started again.
Thank you.


It has been brought to my attention that something needs to be doe with the media section. Looks like we'll be adding a photography section for everything not car related. What would work best for everyone?
I'm thinking about merging the current picture thread with videos and have that dedicated for all things car related or have the video section as a child forum to that, have member's rides by itself, then have "Personal Photography" for everything else you've taken pictures of. ROTM be going to be getting an all new section so I'm trying to clean things up to keep it from getting too cluttered.
Stephanie, bring forth the ideas you presented on AIM so we can get some more points of view and see what works out best.


Nah, dont merge the picture thread and video, leave them as they are...

..how about just making a "Photography & Adobe Photoshop" subforum in pictures & photoshop? nothing car related, you can move the stickies Dre made, sig requests and request y0 chops in there as well :biggrin:.

THE ONE
07-02-2008, 12:47 PM
Nah, dont merge the picture thread and video, leave them as they are...

..how about just making a "Photography & Adobe Photoshop" subforum in pictures & photoshop? nothing car related, you can move the stickies Dre made, sig requests and request y0 chops in there as well :biggrin:.


What B set... *goes back to check on my investment*

FlowingMetal
07-02-2008, 11:49 PM
I think paid members should be able to use/access all forums regardless of post count.

Si Speed
07-03-2008, 12:41 AM
I think paid members should be able to use/access all forums regardless of post count.

Me too.
I'll look into that and get something done very soon. Didn't realize I was excluding any of you.

yogi_pahl
07-03-2008, 12:59 AM
I think i should be a mod jk but ideas so far are great.What about a "other rides" sup forum in the member rides or some wear else. Any word on the acard/game section?

Si Speed
07-03-2008, 01:11 AM
I think i should be a mod jk but ideas so far are great.What about a "other rides" sup forum in the member rides or some wear else. Any word on the acard/game section?

Other rides, post that in auto photography. no word from Neon on the games.

OEM~KaOs
07-03-2008, 01:13 AM
I would be down for a section on "other rides" as I drive and work on a modded golf cart and a 1969 Chevy Corvette Stingray with a 455 and 100 wet shot of NOS. I'll be posting pics of both the next time I go up to work on them and/or drive them at the neighbors house :biggrin:

yogi_pahl
07-03-2008, 01:32 AM
Other rides, post that in auto photography. no word from Neon on the games.

Just found maybe i should look outside of OT ever now and then.

Si Speed
07-10-2008, 05:40 PM
Alright, I put the sale section back like it was. You just need 50 posts to make a thread but anybody can see the sale section and post in WTB. A few people were assuming e had no sale section and randomly posting threads so we'll just go back to deleting them and telling them they need 50 posts. :smile:

hojemwod
07-10-2008, 05:50 PM
I am wondering if you can make the font in the thread posts a touch brighter or larger so it would be easier to see. thanks

Si Speed
07-10-2008, 06:39 PM
what do you mean?
Make the default bigger?
What's brighter on black than white?

99PreludeSh
07-10-2008, 06:49 PM
I am wondering if you can make the font in the thread posts a touch brighter or larger so it would be easier to see. thanks

Yes you can just hold control down and use your scroller on your mouse to enlarge the font.

hojemwod
07-10-2008, 09:16 PM
what do you mean?
Make the default bigger?
What's brighter on black than white?

I wanted the actual font, like what you are reading right now, to be larger or a brighter shade of white/grey so it would be easier to read; but that works V. I didnt know about that and maybe I had my font small who knows.

Yes you can just hold control down and use your scroller on your mouse to enlarge the font.

I didnt know about this thanks!

Si Speed
07-10-2008, 09:29 PM
Are you squared away now?

hojemwod
07-11-2008, 09:43 AM
Are you squared away now?

yessir thanks

MaDMaXX
08-08-2008, 05:53 PM
I would refer to "pit lane" not "the pits" ;)