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hey guys i have a quick question, where is the break booster in our cars?
(5th Gen) a picture of where it is would be very nice.. thanks in advance! ^__^
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Round black thing on the firewall.




Hear is one out of the car with the master cylinder attached .
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thank you!! my friends wanted to seafoam my car.. but we didnt know where that was.. ^__^ we do use that for seafoaming right? or is it through the PCV?
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I used the pvc just b/c i hear on some cars the brake booster wont get all the cylinders. Just get a cup and put 1/3-1/2 of the can in the cup, have someone rev the engine to about 2k then pull off the pvc form the engine, stick the end in the cup so it only sucks up a lil at a time if you just stick it in there it won't suck all of it throw the intact, when its all gone shut the engine off for 10-15 mints start it back up might have to rev it a lil bit keep it running till all the smoke is gone.
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Who told you to shut off the engine? After the crap is all gone keep the engine rev constant at about 2k for another minute of two then let off and idle for another few minutes. As long as your idle is stable and not wanting to die on you the car is fine to drive.
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Who told you to shut off the engine? After the crap is all gone keep the engine rev constant at about 2k for another minute of two then let off and idle for another few minutes. As long as your idle is stable and not wanting to die on you the car is fine to drive.
Sea foam told me that who.


How Many Mechanics Use SEA FOAM
In Tune-Up of 4 Cycle Gasoline Carbureted or Fuel Injected Engines
Autos, Trucks, and Tractors

1. With engine warm, slowly pour 1/3 to 1/2 pint through carburetor or throttle body throat. (If vehicle is port injected slowly pour SEA FOAM through direct manifold vacuum line that will feed all cylinders, possible sources are P.C.V. valve or brake booster line.) This will pull SEA FOAM down on top of the pistons and to the back of the intake valves to dissolve carbon. Turn ignition off. Restart engine after 5 minutes. If severe carbon build up is apparent, use more Sea Foam as previously directed. Make sure exhaust is well ventilated when using Sea Foam in these various ways as fumes will be extreme for a short time.
2. Pour 1/3 to 1/2 pint into oil crank case to clean rings, lifters, dirty parts and remove moisture.
3. Pour 1/3 to 1 full pint into fuel tank to clean injectors, carburetor jets, fuel lines and remove moisture.
4. Immediate Results: Smoother idle, increased R.P.M.'s better throttle response and improved performance. See label on can for detailed results for use in each area.

FUEL TANK, CARBURETOR, INJECTION and OIL CRANKCASE.


Read the back of the bottel it will tell you or got to the website.

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umm i did my seafoam today :] i just poured it into my TB w/o letting it die.
now i think it idles at 620rpms it was 870rpms earlier. my car feels clean ^__^

oh quick question... a mechanic from honda recommended i have synthetic tranny fluid, which i agreed too, but the odd thing was he just put in motor oil (10w30) does this sound funny to anyone else but me?
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Yes take it back and tell him that you demand a flush and fill with Honda ATF or MTF fluid.
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well i have a 5spd.. so is having that fluid in my car ok? or will that just mess it up ]:
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ok maybe in a 5spd not 100% i would go with w/e the owners manual says. In an auto tho it would burn up fast b/c of the heat.
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lol its strange.. but i dont think honda would purposely damage my car, hopefully its ok.. its running fine :] the shifting is a bit smoother even heh "D
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Yeah flush that and get Honda MTF in there...

Technically, Manual transmission (gear oil) and motor oil are pretty much the same thing, but the weights are way way different. I think typical gear oil is like 75w-80 or something... so yeah, 10w-30 motor oil isn't what you want in there.

Honda MTF all the way... I don't understand why a HONDA dealership would recommend anything else =P

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Oh by the way, if you don't use Honda MTF, Full Synthetic gear oil is normally very highly recommended as well (so yeah he was right about that).

Full synthetic gear oil is recommended in cars that have "difficult" shifting action (like lots of 5th gen preludes suffer from)... like when you get that "notchy" shifting... not exactly a grind, but not exactly smooth either...
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I hear ppl but like heavy diesel synthetic engine oil with is like 50W like Badmofo siad you need something close to 70w. 10w is ok now but it will brun off and thine out real soon.
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umm i did my seafoam today :] i just poured it into my TB w/o letting it die.
now i think it idles at 620rpms it was 870rpms earlier. my car feels clean ^__^

oh quick question... a mechanic from honda recommended i have synthetic tranny fluid, which i agreed too, but the odd thing was he just put in motor oil (10w30) does this sound funny to anyone else but me?
I assume you have a manual tranny and thats only in 3rd Gen Preludes w/ 5 speed to use 10w30 in the tranny, actually I used regular 30 SAE in my 90 SI. I'm not too sure about 5th Gen's havn't had to do any tranny work yet, but soon will I'm sure.

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with the 10w30 i actually feel its a bit smoother to shift into gears, maybe he was right about putting it in there?
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Any one know the rating of Honda MTF? B.c i really think the 10w is way less then it. Yes u can use it and it will feel better b/c its new. Just to point out just b/c a Honda shop guy said so doesn't mean to much.
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eck scary "o now im concerned.... i really hope my car will be ok ]:
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well at worst you will just have to drain it out and fill with Honda MTF. I went to google and seen a few ppl put 10w30 in a 5sped, and it was about 50/50 of will it work or not. I would say better safe then sorry and get MTF.
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aw thanks for looking it up.. i appreciate it. its such a hassle.. and makes me wonder about the service im getting at honda >:[
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Service at Honda and anywhere else is not what it used to be. I have a friend thats a mechanic out in Arizona at a Nissan dealer and he keeps me up on their gimics to get you into getting your car serviced. He's an old Army buddy of mine so he is very honest and tells me everything to watch out for when taking my car in.
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Well here is the deal with the 10w-30 motor oil in the transmission... Apparently, even though they are measured differently... a 75w-90 transmission oil is equivalent to a 10w-40 motor oil... so 10w-30 will "work fine"... BUT... here's the difference...

A 75w-90 gear oil is equal to a 10w-40 motor oil only in viscosity... but the big difference is that motor oil and gear oil are designed to lubricate and stand up to break down... but the break down happens in two very very different ways... Gear oils are engineered to stand up to shear forces much more than motor oil... Motor oil is designed to stand up to extreme temperatures more than gear oil... Yes the oil inside of a transmission gets very hot... but more importantly, it's getting smashed and torn and sheared on a molecular level because of the fact that it is constantly lubricating moving parts that come into direct contact with eachother (the gears themselves) and motor oil is not designed to stand up to all that shearing...

So.. even though they have the same viscosity, and even though they both do the same job (lubrication)... the motor oil is really not designed to be used for that application, and it will start to break down and lose its lubrication properties much faster than MTF would...

I recommend changing it out... you can do it yourself =). Don't perpetuate the stereotype that chicks can't do car stuff... it's not hard, we can walk you through it =). If you still don't want to do it, it's no big deal, just figured I'd pass along the information I've learned =).
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dang i be my tranny oil is very bad..... when we changed my clutch we put 10w-30 cause a book said to and that was almost 2 years ago.... also on 4th gens y do 5th gear grind =D
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dang i be my tranny oil is very bad..... when we changed my clutch we put 10w-30 cause a book said to and that was almost 2 years ago.... also on 4th gens y do 5th gear grind =D
Yeah they both do the 5th gear grind.. I was talking more about the notchy shifting between all gears... not just 5th.

And to be honest with you man, it doesn't make a huge difference which one you use... like I said, they are both doing the same thing, lubrication... I'm just anal a bit and I like to do everything exactly by the book... the main difference is that motor oil doesn't have the same EP (extreme pressure) additives that gear oil does...


and yeah, If I recall correctly, the 4th gen manual DOES recommend 10w-30 motor oil... but the 5th gen manual recommends Honda MTF

Strange... considering the trannies are almost identical.

Basically what it comes down to is, if it ain't broke don't fix it... If you are experiencing good shifting and you are happy with the performance of your gear box, then there's no real reason to change right now unless you are past your maintenance period to change it =)
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