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Ok, I have been searching for a while and can't find anything, so can someone please respond ASAP, I am replacing my clutch today and when I printed off all of the details on All Data it says that I have to drain the tranny fluid. Well, I don't know what type of tranny fluid we 5th gen luders take, so can anyone tell me so i can pick some up before it's too late, lol. All I need is the Transmission fluid type, thanks!
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or you can go to a GM dealership and get some of their synchromesh, which most people prefer
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I have also heard to only use Factory Honda MTF from the dealer. The synchromesh may be within Honda's recommendations. Its just I have heard that the autos are very exspensive to rebuild. I wouldn't go cheap on fluid thats for sure.
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awesome, thanks guys. Well here is another question: I am in the middle of the job and we are trying to figure out how to get the driveshaft and axles out of the tranny, can ANYONE please help, I need to know ASAP since this job has to be done by like 5 tonight, lol. thanks for all your help!!
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you already got the axle nuts off? and the suspension taken apart so you can pull the axle out?

with one person on the outside of the car pulling the axle from the base of it (DO NOT PULL IT BY THE SHAFT! the CV joints will get disconnected!) have another person under the car prying the axle out w/ either a pry-bar or claw hammer stuck between the base of the axle and the tranny, or the intermediate shaft.
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you already got the axle nuts off? and the suspension taken apart so you can pull the axle out?

with one person on the outside of the car pulling the axle from the base of it (DO NOT PULL IT BY THE SHAFT! the CV joints will get disconnected!) have another person under the car prying the axle out w/ either a pry-bar or claw hammer stuck between the base of the axle and the tranny, or the intermediate shaft.
What size nut is it going to be for the axle nut? The largest i have is a 19mm i think, or a 1 standard.

Also, when i split the tranny, there is an oil leak. Not horrible, but dripping out and it kinda slowed down after about 2 minutes, is it the rear crank seal thats leaking? will i have to replace it?
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you already got the axle nuts off? and the suspension taken apart so you can pull the axle out?

with one person on the outside of the car pulling the axle from the base of it (DO NOT PULL IT BY THE SHAFT! the CV joints will get disconnected!) have another person under the car prying the axle out w/ either a pry-bar or claw hammer stuck between the base of the axle and the tranny, or the intermediate shaft.

Yeah a small pry bar is all you need, maybe a large flathead screwdriver, its what I used.

Yeah its either 32mm or 33 I can't remember well that was on my 3rg Gen are the 5th Gens the same?
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Alright, one problem down, it was a 36 mm socket, now I need to figure out how to fill the tranny with tranny fluid, anyone help me out here? lol. Im basically hitting problems that are frustrating the s**t outta me and asking you guys bc there is someone here who has had it before. I'm also having trouble getting the axle out of the tranny, it's SO close, but won't pop out...
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Remove the oil drain plug drain all the oil. Replace that crush washer. Reinstall the drain plug

Next fill the oil through the fill plug. The mtf must be filled up to the filler hole. Make sure the car is on level ground. Add fluid until it runs out of the hole. Wait until it stops running and install the oil filler plug with a new crush washer.

Another easier way you can fill the trans is through the breather plug. It is located next to the reverse light switch. Pop that off take out the filler plug and fill the trans until fluid starts comming out of the fill hold.


To get the axel out you are just going to have to get a large head flat tip screwdriver or a pry bar and place it between the axel and trans and just give it a quick pop. The ring on the axel inside the trans is a bitch sometimes.
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Alrighty ladies and gentleman!!

We have the transmission bell housing off, the new flywheel and clutch assembly is on, and all we have left to do is put it all back together, bleed the clutch system and fill the tranny fluid up (still confused on that s**t, no offense to those who tried!!)

Here are some war pictures, because this has truly been a battle with the effin car!!

Here is the old crap:

Here is the INSTALLED new s**t:

It's so sexy even my friend wants to slip it the tongue!!

Can you spot the ninja mechanic known as CURWICK!?!?

The bell housing dropped to the floor into SUBMISSION!!! TAKE THAT YOU B***H!!

THIS IS SPARTA!!!!!!!!!!! (Going to war with the transmission)

And truly the war it was, here is the aftermath of my friend Jake "ninja mechanic" Curwick

And here is his sexy little all wheel drive Subie Project car (can you say DRIFTING?!?! <-- fun as hell on these dirt roads at my house!!)



Needless to say, after 9 hours of work, we are only about half done, so tomorrow we pick up where we leave off today and go and get WASTED!!!! Make sure to check for my drunk check in posts lata!!

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Damn son 9 hrs. I did my clutch and flywheel in 3 hrs. Ill try and get some pics tommarow of my trans for you because the b series trans is idential to the H series in the maner of draining and filling the fluid.
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Sure you can. Theoretically if you have perfect control and nothing but perfect straight road you can drift a 4wd vehical forever.

My buddy Tyler at the Drift n Grip events drifts his 02 WRX. Granted he is a moron who dosnt know **** about the car but he dose pretty well.

Now all the drift subies you see in D1 and everywhere else 90% of them have gotten the front LSD delete so all power is going to the rear wheels
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Sure you can. Theoretically if you have perfect control and nothing but perfect straight road you can drift a 4wd vehical forever.

My buddy Tyler at the Drift n Grip events drifts his 02 WRX. Granted he is a moron who dosnt know **** about the car but he dose pretty well.

Now all the drift subies you see in D1 and everywhere else 90% of them have gotten the front LSD delete so all power is going to the rear wheels
Oh, okay that makes sense. You couldn't do it without modification though right?
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You can't drift in a 4wd.
OH I BEG TO DIFFER SON!!! It was bad ass, we went drifting to celebrate getting the tranny off.

BTW, it only took that long because we managed to over look 4 bolts on the frame cross member, which would have saved us HOURS of time if we had gotten it off before, but we had gotten the tranny mostly off and THEN realized that we needed to get it off, which made it harder, lol. And remember, this is our first time doing a clutch job, so back off man, haha...
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OH I BEG TO DIFFER SON!!! It was bad ass, we went drifting to celebrate getting the tranny off.

BTW, it only took that long because we managed to over look 4 bolts on the frame cross member, which would have saved us HOURS of time if we had gotten it off before, but we had gotten the tranny mostly off and THEN realized that we needed to get it off, which made it harder, lol. And remember, this is our first time doing a clutch job, so back off man, haha...
lol yea. I hate when I miss a bolt. When we were building the 240 drift truck taking off the rear bumper beam we missed the 2 bolts in the trunk and were beating on the rear beam thinking it was just stuck in for about an hr.

You can drift AWD with out mod. Its just a little harder on Pavement. On drift its easy as hell. Ever watch WRC.
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1: yes you can.

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1: yes you can.

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Lol, but yeah... who informed you that you can't drift in a 4wd car? Oh, and btw... subies are AWD not 4WD... there is no real difference, but they call it AWD... GET IT RIGHT PUNK! lol =P.

Back to the transmission job... don't feel bad about the 9 hours man, it took us about a combined total of 25-30 on my SH....

It's not a 3 hour job for someone on their first time around!

And yeah, Honda MTF or GM Syncromesh are the way to go... I used Honda MTF...

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NECK HAS SPOKEN!

Lol, but yeah... who informed you that you can't drift in a 4wd car? Oh, and btw... subies are AWD not 4WD... there is no real difference, but they call it AWD... GET IT RIGHT PUNK! lol =P.

Back to the transmission job... don't feel bad about the 9 hours man, it took us about a combined total of 25-30 on my SH....

It's not a 3 hour job for someone on their first time around!

And yeah, Honda MTF or GM Syncromesh are the way to go... I used Honda MTF...
lol yea. Yea i remember my first trans job. Allnight and next day.
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Lol, but yeah... who informed you that you can't drift in a 4wd car? Oh, and btw... subies are AWD not 4WD... there is no real difference, but they call it AWD... GET IT RIGHT PUNK! lol =P.

Back to the transmission job... don't feel bad about the 9 hours man, it took us about a combined total of 25-30 on my SH....

It's not a 3 hour job for someone on their first time around!

And yeah, Honda MTF or GM Syncromesh are the way to go... I used Honda MTF...
Picked up some synchromesh today to use since my buddy bailed on me at the party last night, he was gonna bring me some Honda MTF since he works at a dealership, but after two full 11 hour days the car is still not done... We were putting the suspension back together and the f***in axle connected to the intermediate shaft fell apart, the bearings on the inside of the boot fell out of place and it doesn't go all the way, making it impossible for me to get my lower ball joint back on... As for everything else, just figuring out where some tranny bolts go (some fit in some places and some don't, its like playing mix and match all over again, lol) and got the battery and intake left.

BTW, on the SH models they are even worse because of the black box from hell **ATTS**!!!! One of the techs my friend works with says he wont touch the SH model preludes bc of that black box and the ATTS. Pansy...
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Picked up some synchromesh today to use since my buddy bailed on me at the party last night, he was gonna bring me some Honda MTF since he works at a dealership, but after two full 11 hour days the car is still not done... We were putting the suspension back together and the f***in axle connected to the intermediate shaft fell apart, the bearings on the inside of the boot fell out of place and it doesn't go all the way, making it impossible for me to get my lower ball joint back on... As for everything else, just figuring out where some tranny bolts go (some fit in some places and some don't, its like playing mix and match all over again, lol) and got the battery and intake left.

BTW, on the SH models they are even worse because of the black box from hell **ATTS**!!!! One of the techs my friend works with says he wont touch the SH model preludes bc of that black box and the ATTS. Pansy...
Yeah mine was the SH... it was a PITA... It's not that much different than the base model, but it's just that much more of a PITA
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I stayed up until 1am last night, got everything back together except for the busted axle, so im gonna be trying to stay awake in class right now and then after school i have to drive all over gods green earth with my fathers work van to find that part since i need the car running tomorrow. fingers crossed...
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Well, im in school and found a place with the part i need, so after school i have to go pick up that part and then hopefully get the car back together for bar league softball tonight!!!

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if you just need to replace one axle and put the suspension back together, you should have that done in like 3 hours max.
granted you have a good supply of cerveza's
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if you just need to replace one axle and put the suspension back together, you should have that done in like 3 hours max.
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Well, after school i went and picked up the part, got home and had it replaced and EVERYTHING back together after 1 1/2 hours. I had my dad come out to bleed the clutch system, so we bled it real quick... then as I went to go feel how the clutch pedal felt, I pushed down and it felt as if the clutch pedal was seized up, meaning that the fork fell of of the pilot bearing on the inside of the tranny housing. I said f**k this, called my buddy up at his shop and the car is getting towed there tomorrow morning and he is gonna do it for me since he has a tranny jack and a lift and everything. and since I have already done everything and replaced all the broken parts and given him all the fluids for the tranny and clutch he is gonna do it for super cheap. I would do it on my own, but I need this fixed bc I have school and no car and I can't use my dads work van since he obviously needs it for...you guessed it...work. And don't worry Neck, I had PLENTY of booze on hand and had quite a bit after I found out i failed, lets just say that if this post was written the way I wrote it the first time with all the spelling errors and all that, it would belong right in the drunk check in!!!

I'm exhausted, i put in 33+ hours in three days into this car and im done and sore as s**t, night all
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