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Old 05-06-2008, 06:58 PM
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Hey...I have Enkei ZR1 wheels on a 5th gen., and I'm interested in lowering with the Eibach Pro System (1.3" drop). I took a peek at the fifth gen guide and now I'm worried that my tires will rub the outside wheel well. The wheel specs are 17 x 7.5 and the offset is 40. Tires are Nitto NeoGen 215/40/17. Any ideas on how much I can safely lower?...that is if I can lower at all with this setup.

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Old 05-06-2008, 07:23 PM
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you'll be fine, I've got 215/40/18's and I'm lowered about 1.5" it depends on how you drive, if you're just into cruising you'll be okay...taking a hard corner you might rub
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:30 PM
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Thanks! What is your wheel offset? Any thoughts/recommendations on a suspension pkg or coilovers that would allow for only a .5 inch drop (the Eibach seems to be the shortest drop at 1.3").
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I've got koni/gc coilovers they're fairly cheap and adjustable for anything you'll need for street / autocross, you can lower your car for cruising and raise it back up in about 15 minutes if you want to do some crazy driving
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Recommended Tire size & Offsets!

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7.5" Wide Wheels w/ 4th & 5th Gen

Less than +40mm ::: Not Recommended
+40mm to +43mm ::: Not Recommended if you are, or plan to be, lowered. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well. Wouldn't recommend using any tire with an overall diameter larger than stock and/or with a tire width larger than 215.
+44mm to +47mm ::: This is a grey area if you are lowered, results vary depending on tire and/or drop. You take the chance of rubbing the outside lip of the wheel well. Wouldn't recommend using a tire with an overall diameter more than slightly larger than stock, you chances of rubbing increase.
+48mm to +52mm ::: You shouldn't have any problems. Recommended Offsets for 7.5" Wide Wheels.
Larger than +53mm ::: Not Recommend. You take the chance of rubbing the inside lining of the wheel well.
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Thanks Man! I read that thread before I posted...I was hoping someone out there has the same setup as mine and has lowered their ride without any issues...perhaps a stiffer suspension setup would allow for lowering without rubbing the outside fender well?

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If anyone has the same wheel setup and lowered their ride...please advise.
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Old 05-07-2008, 09:45 AM
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I have a 5th gen with 215/45/17s and eibach prokit. Dont know the of set of the wheel there was only one option "FWD" There is some rubbing when the wheel is turned one way or the other about 65% and up when going over a small bump like turning off the highway into a parking lot. If your carefull its not much of an issue.
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Man, you should be fine. I have 18's and a Tein full suspension and i dont rub at all. So you should be fine on those.
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What is the offset of your 18's...from what I'm reading, it's the offset is what causes the issue. My rims are 7.5" wide (offset +40mm) and sit just about flush with the fender...and the recommended offset (again, from what I've read) for 17 x 7.5 is at least +48mm if you plan to lower. Please confirm if you have the same rim width and offset, and were able to lower successfully. Thanks for the quick responses! Please keep sharing your experiences...hopefully, what I read was just a general guideline and that there's a suspension setup that will allow me to keep my rims.

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my wheels are Mugen GP's 18x7.5, +48, 5x114.3
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Old 05-07-2008, 06:04 PM
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I have axis mods that are 18x7.5 and its a +48 also. So you should clear it with the 17x7.5.
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Because my offset is a +40 my wheels sit flush with the fender...there's no room for the tires to tuck under the fenders.

I'm not sure how much wheel travel I would need to allow for on a rough bump or hard turn?
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yeah, that's a little risky...it all depends on your spring rate get something stiff if you're worried
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Yeah man I agree with apt lude. Just get some springs with with a stiff rate if your worried. There arent hardly any holes or dips in the road where I am. the only problem I have is I almost scrape my front lip pullin in my driveway but my front end is a little lower than you are wantin to go.
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I can't find it atm, but I'm sure that member Ogsmackdade has 42 offset on his 18" Volks with no trouble. Run a search and see what you come up with mate
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Thanks for steering me in the right direction!
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