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I'm pretty sure I've read this before on here but i couldn't find the thread again so sorry for repeating a topic if it's been done. What has to be done in replacing my slave cylinder and bleeding my clutch. Also what kind of fluid do I put in the clutch reservoir.
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I'm pretty sure I've read this before on here but i couldn't find the thread again so sorry for repeating a topic if it's been done. What has to be done in replacing my slave cylinder and bleeding my clutch. Also what kind of fluid do I put in the clutch reservoir.
Bleeding the clutch is easy, I have to do it alot now that my clutch is going bad, so here are the easy steps:

This is best done with 2 people, one is fine, but it's more complicated, so ill tell you how to do it with two people
1. Make sure the bleeder screw is closed

2. Have the person in the car push down and pull up on the clutch pedal

3. Open the bleeder screw and let the fluid (and air) drain out

4. Close the bleeder screw tightly and then notify the person in the car it's closed

5. Have the person in the car push down and pull up on the clutch pedal

Repeat over and over until firmness has returned to the pedal

As for the slave cylinder, that would be the smaller container to the right of the master cylinder, i don't know exactly how to do it, but if you wait until tomorrow morning when im back in school i can give you the exact directions from the manufacturer and how much time it will take, all that good stuff
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There's an easier way to bleed it, get a hose long enough to reach from the bleeder valve to a bottle of brake fluid. Attach one end to the valve and insert the other end inside the brake fluid all the way to the bottom of the bottle. Loosen the valve and go and pump the clutch for about 5 minutes. You will start will air in the hose but that air will be pushed out until you see nothing but solid brake fluid with no bubbles. Oh and you will need to open and fill your reservoir (fill it maybe 2-3 times at most). This trick takes 1 person but usually 2 bottles of brake fluid (I don't mean entire bottles of brake fluid, just seperate).

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Bleeding the clutch is easy, I have to do it alot now that my clutch is going bad, so here are the easy steps:

This is best done with 2 people, one is fine, but it's more complicated, so ill tell you how to do it with two people
1. Make sure the bleeder screw is closed

2. Have the person in the car push down and pull up on the clutch pedal

3. Open the bleeder screw and let the fluid (and air) drain out

4. Close the bleeder screw tightly and then notify the person in the car it's closed

5. Have the person in the car push down and pull up on the clutch pedal

Repeat over and over until firmness has returned to the pedal

As for the slave cylinder, that would be the smaller container to the right of the master cylinder, i don't know exactly how to do it, but if you wait until tomorrow morning when im back in school i can give you the exact directions from the manufacturer and how much time it will take, all that good stuff
That's incorrect...

The slave cylinder is the cylinder with the piston that pushes the clutch fork over to actually engage or disengage the clutch... it's the thing that the bleeder screw is actually on bolted to the front of the motor... The master cylinder is the cylinder that your actual clutch pedal is attached to that you pressurize/depressurize by pushing/releasing the clutch pedal that is attached to the firewall... Hence the Master/Slave concept, the master cylinder receives input from your foot, pressurizes the brake fluid, which in turn actuates the slave cylinder

Other than that, you guys got the right idea... just make sure you keep the reservoir topped off during the entire process, don't let it drain out too much.

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i thought to bleed the clutch you gotta pump the pedal a few times, then hold it to the floor while you open the bleed valve?
or am i confusing that with brakes?
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I think there are quite a few ways of doing it, and I think that is one of them... the key to all of the methods though is keeping that reservoir full the hole time, and not stopping until you don't see any bubbles anymore

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That's incorrect...

The slave cylinder is the cylinder with the piston that pushes the clutch fork over to actually engage or disengage the clutch... it's the thing that the bleeder screw is actually on bolted to the front of the motor... The master cylinder is the cylinder that your actual clutch pedal is attached to that you pressurize/depressurize by pushing/releasing the clutch pedal that is attached to the firewall... Hence the Master/Slave concept, the master cylinder receives input from your foot, pressurizes the brake fluid, which in turn actuates the slave cylinder

Other than that, you guys got the right idea... just make sure you keep the reservoir topped off during the entire process, don't let it drain out too much.
Yea, sorry, i got the reservoir and the slave cylinder mixed up, my bad.
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Yea, sorry, i got the reservoir and the slave cylinder mixed up, my bad.
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i thought to bleed the clutch you gotta pump the pedal a few times, then hold it to the floor while you open the bleed valve?
or am i confusing that with brakes?
No way, never pump the clutch pedal, not like bleeding brakes at all..
If you have to pump the pedal like that, then the master cylinder is malfunctioning. I've had to bleed my car's system so many times due to faulty MC's. Stupid old car!


After a few times, if the system is clear of air, it'll fix itself and regain clutch firmness.
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This is straight out of AllData so here ya go:

CAUTION:
Do not spill brake fluid on the vehicle; it may damage the paint; if brake fluid does contact the paint, wash it off immediately with water.
Plug the end of the clutch line with a shop towel to prevent brake fluid from coming out.

REPLACEMENT:

Disconnect the clutch line from the slave cylinder.

Remove the slave cylinder from the clutch housing.



Install the slave cylinder in the reverse order of removal. NOTE: Make sure the boot is installed on the slave cylinder.


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Awesommmme, thanks a lot man. Looks simple enough. Do i have to bleed that **** before and after installing the slave cylinder?
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Awesommmme, thanks a lot man. Looks simple enough. Do i have to bleed that **** before and after installing the slave cylinder?
Not before, but DEFINITELY after, and those instructions are up above, just make sure the reservoir is ALWAYS full, i always cap the reservoir after filling it, but thats just me, im always worried about getting air in there

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Do i need to hook up a hose or some **** to the bleeder screw? My bad for all these dumb questions but I've never bled anything before so I'm more or less clueless on it.
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Do i need to hook up a hose or some **** to the bleeder screw? My bad for all these dumb questions but I've never bled anything before so I'm more or less clueless on it.
You can, put a tube leading to an empty can or something, but I usually just throw down some newspaper or cardboard underneath the front of the car so that when the fluid squirts out it just falls on the cardboard.

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Attempted to do this today, everything went fine until i got to the clutch line. The bolt is rusted on and my bootleg wrenches from Costco just slip on of it. So in fear of stripping the bolt or bending my clutch line, i tried detaching the slave cylinder so i could twist it off but there's no room. I was going to remove the fan to make room but that seems like more trouble than it's worth. Also if the clutch line is bent will this cause problems?
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Attempted to do this today, everything went fine until i got to the clutch line. The bolt is rusted on and my bootleg wrenches from Costco just slip on of it. So in fear of stripping the bolt or bending my clutch line, i tried detaching the slave cylinder so i could twist it off but there's no room. I was going to remove the fan to make room but that seems like more trouble than it's worth. Also if the clutch line is bent will this cause problems?
Which bolt?

If the metal clutch line is bent, i can see that causing problems because it will constrict the flow and could possibly spring a leak, which would be horrible.
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The bolt on the end of the clutch line that connects it to the cylinder. I think I'm gonna just pull the fan out to get a vice grip in there. I love how this simple **** gives you the biggest problems lol.
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The bolt on the end of the clutch line that connects it to the cylinder. I think I'm gonna just pull the fan out to get a vice grip in there. I love how this simple **** gives you the biggest problems lol.
Yuppers, it never fails man, never fails. just be careful nothing f**ks up the clutch line and you're golden!
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Yuppers, it never fails man, never fails. just be careful nothing f**ks up the clutch line and you're golden!
Yeah you don't wanna kink that hardline, be very careful of that.

Let us know how it all turns out... I'm gonna be doing this soon just for preventative maintenance's sake.
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I'm in Philly for the weekend so i can't fix my **** but i was thinking about removing the fan and was wondering, are there any bolts holding it on other then the two 10mm on top. Also, if anyone knows some ill spots in Philly let me know, I'm bored as a mother ****er.
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For the past week it's rained every day that I wasn't working but I finally got it done today. Ended up having to pull out the clutch line and breaking the bolt with some vice grips and my foot. It's awesome to have her back on the road.
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Re: Slave Cylinder and Bleeding Clutch

So I've never forumed before but I know this is a great resource. Today i was replacing both the master and slave clutch cylinders, and all went well until it came to pressurizing the system. We just can not get pressure back into the pedal- we bled using vacuum at the slave bleeder, pulling all the air out, the res level never dropped too low (DOT 3 of course), but the pedal was lifeless and we couldn't figure it out. We pumped and held the pedal to test pressure. Do you not EVER pump the clutch? Im open for any tips and tricks, im in a rut. Oh, its a 97 btw. WTF do i do?!?!
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WERD: use a line wrench that grabs the nut from 3 sides instead of 2, i think its an 8mm. And definately take that damn fan out. I couldn't get any kind of anything on the bleeder valve with the fan in the way. Its like 4 10mm bolts, and the electrical connection for the fan



Trevortron...keep pumping son. I'm sure he meant down ever pump the clutch while the bleeder is open.

Pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, slowly open bleeder valve, then close. Then Repeat, until the pedal kicks back by itself.
It took me about 30 minutes of pumping and running around to the front of the car until i actually got pressure in the pedal.
Either that, or you have a leak in ur line somewhere. Double check all the fittings that you undid. You should see it dripping out of somewhere.



How many of you guys actually adjust ur clutch pedal height, by adjusting the nut on the rod that goes thru the firewall (bulkhead) and to the MC????
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Re: Slave Cylinder and Bleeding Clutch

yea the biggest pain is the pumping LOL. every 5spd swap if done its at least a good 20 minutes of pumping.... and you will feel the pedal getting stiffer after awhile. obviously make sure the slave is move the fork back and forth. good luck.
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Alright, all sounds good. Ill just pump the living sh*t outta it before i break down and get another Master. I was thinkin perhaps the parts place just gave me a bad master from the get go- bad inner seals or somethin, idk. Not my favorite thing to do, but Ill try the pump method first for sure. The car is in my shop at work and cant be left there for too long obviously so im hopin somethin works fast. haha Thanks yall. Ill be back.
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Re: Slave Cylinder and Bleeding Clutch

I neverheard of this being such a problem bleeding the clutch have by myself anyway the last two guys are correct . Try to do it from under neath jack the car up and, put jack stand that way your safe you don't have to take out the fan if jack it of the floor but if you don't have the jack stand then you might to take out the fan .
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Re: Slave Cylinder and Bleeding Clutch

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I neverheard of this being such a problem bleeding the clutch have by myself anyway the last two guys are correct . Try to do it from under neath jack the car up and, put jack stand that way your safe you don't have to take out the fan if jack it of the floor but if you don't have the jack stand then you might to take out the fan .
hey bro, this thread is a little over a year old -.-
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