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Possible to hit 300hp with a 4k limit?

Hey guys, I'm just wondering if it would be possible to hit 300hp with a 4k limit. I'm thinking boost and a budget nos kit.
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please dont get nos....im not a big fan on nos....i like the look it gives to the inside of a car havin a tank there but please dont do anything past that n u can probaly get a nice turbo kit for under 2k then do all of them nice lil mods that add 30hp here n there
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yeah buy a older vette lmao
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Hey guys, I'm just wondering if it would be possible to hit 300hp with a 4k limit. I'm thinking boost and a budget nos kit.
sounds like detroit steel.
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Ok not being a smart a$$ but 300 hp on a 4k bug will be kinda hard if you want the car to run for more then two trips down the track
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Like mizlude said, boosting to 300hp is easy, dependably boosting to 300hp will cost more than 4k.
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any particular reason why 4K and 300hp are set in stone? if you dont have the money, you may just have to go with a small boost kit and sacrifice such big gains. otherwise your 4k will turn into you oweing a lot more for repairs that you could have originally put into your car to make it run properly in the first place. imo...
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If your going to boost up to 300hp, just to say you have that..just grab that 4k and put it down on a audi s5, but if your going to use it on the track then you might as well save up enough to get you to your desired hp range, and also extra money on the side just in case something goes wrong b/c you never know
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IF YOU DONT CHEAP OUT ON A SINGLE PART!!!!!
and if you start out w/ a very healthy motor, 300hp on a stock boosted engine is very reasonable, and can also be just as reliable as a stock engine.

4K is the PERFECT amount to put together a very solid setup w/ the best name brand parts, so yes, you can do it.
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IF YOU DONT CHEAP OUT ON A SINGLE PART!!!!!
and if you start out w/ a very healthy motor, 300hp on a stock boosted engine is very reasonable, and can also be just as reliable as a stock engine.

4K is the PERFECT amount to put together a very solid setup w/ the best name brand parts, so yes, you can do it.
Yeah that is if hes starting out with a f22, but im guessing he has a h23a1/a2 and he/she wants to boost it. Like I said sell the lude and but a lt1 vette.
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h22 type s cams and pistons (oversize if you bore)hytech header or equivalent , 2.5 CUSTOM exhaust as straight as possible, some bore and stroke h23 crank and rods maybe itbs but a blacktrax mani is fine....hondata im gasket, a thinner head gasket a good condenser like buddy club and a sic ass tune. and thats just all motor, it wont be 300,but it will be 240 easy to the wheels...trust me, it will feel like 300..and it will be under 4k if u look for deals.

i had two hundred with less than that and no tune. on kenny trans dyno in south padre islands, tx.
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hell yeah...4k = 300hp is easy..a super charger and internals could get you that very easily. but then you just have to worry about stopping power
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Yeah that is if hes starting out with a f22, but im guessing he has a h23a1/a2 and he/she wants to boost it. Like I said sell the lude and but a lt1 vette.
no sh!t sherlock, 5th gen forum = H22.
you could build a RELIABLE turbo kit for ANY engine for 4 grand, on a STOCK block. please explain how building a turbo kit for an H22/23 would be more than 4 grand? or how you think an entire kit for an H is insanely more expensive than an F?
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no sh!t sherlock, 5th gen forum = H22.
you could build a RELIABLE turbo kit for ANY engine for 4 grand, on a STOCK block. please explain how building a turbo kit for an H22/23 would be more than 4 grand? or how you think an entire kit for an H is insanely more expensive than an F?
ummm built h22/23 is about 2 to 3 grand its self. Yeah you can boost one of them to about 300whp but like I said its not going to last long.
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who said anything about building the engine??

if you have a competent tuner and a healthy engine, it should be just as reliable as a stock engine.
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I think he is talking about the FRM sleeves in the H22... but they should hold up fine under mild boost as long as you don't put in forged pistons...

And even with low compression forged pistons and resleeved cylinder walls it probably wouldn't run you much more than the 4.5-5k range (if you did all of the labor [minus the sleeving of the cylinders] yourself).
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lets break this down the turbo way

random turbo kit 800-1000$ range
some kind of tuning $hit 300-1200
getting it tuned 100 to 300 an hour
then you have all of the other parts like clutch a 3" cat back and any thing else Ive left off. even the cheap way it will be hard to hit the 300 mark with it being a dd kind of car. You have to think that not everyone knows what there doing when building a car Neck.
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I think reliability is the biggest issue here. 4k can get you a lot but remember that the more power an engine produces the less reliable it is when its not made for that kind of power.

Companies put cars out that make a certain amount of power, a lot of the times with limitations to the engine so that they can pass emissions, claim better gas mileage etc etc. I doubt this is the case with a prelude though. These cars rev high, rev harder under vtech, run small sized blocks and make good top end power...pushing these cars with out proper build up will definitely wear these engines faster and cause breakage.

going from 170 or so to the wheels to around 260 to the wheels is a huge difference and much bigger strain on the motor, not to mention other area's of the car like chassis, brakes, ignition, suspension, etc etc...

I live in LA and from what i see around here any well built engine, specially if its built for boost cannot be build with a 4k budget....you'll spend about 2k on just installation or tear down and then theres the cost of parts, specially if they're quality parts and then theres no warranty for what the car will do and how long it'll last =\
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I totally read that as meaning 300hp at 4k rpm's.
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Wow peoples' sigs are so big on this message board its hard to follow responses lol. Whats wrong with nitrous? Completely safe as long as you have the correct safety measures (WOT switch, Window switch, FPS Switch, as well as correct wiring and fuel modifications). You could dyno over 300 horsepower with some spray - and still have money left over for dyno tuning and suspension mods. Of course, as stated above it puts a strain on the rest of your drive train, but a good wet N20 kit even with all the switches and everything is under a grand. Thats 3k you could put into anything else you wanted/needed to.

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well the only big issue is the bottom end at 300hp... an h22/23 gets iffy around there... on the other hand a healthy f22 should be be able to hold up fine if done correctly
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as long as it's tuned properly it should have no problems. Ludetech was hitting over 300hp on a stock block without any problems.
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yes you can have around 300hp with 4 grand. just make sure you get a good tune so you wont just throw all that money away.
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i dont think so ... even if it can be done...how many sec can it last
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that i think is the issue...safely running it...i don't like spray, thats like pumping yourself with 10 REDLINES and hitting the gym, how long can you go til your heart explodes?!
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