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Old 02-29-2008, 03:00 PM
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Distributor Cap/rotor

My 97 base has 120K and is starting to feel its age. I want to do a tune up myself to make it run better.

Ive had the timing belt/water pmp/related belts/tensioners replaced at 100K, so thats done.

I hear cleaning the EGR, IAC valve and replacing the CPV valve/tube is a good idea.

Any other ideas to help her run strong again?

I installed ngk platinum plugs and denso wires last night. I want to also put a new distributor cap and rotor plug on, as i hear this is a good idea. I could easily find normal stock type replacements for these parts, but I wonder is there some kind of higher end/peformance distributor cap/rotor that I should consider?
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Old 02-29-2008, 03:59 PM
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Naww...

I'm not sure myself, but I can't imagine there being some sort of "high end" performance distrubutor rotor.

I definitely don't see how any sort of distributor CAP could help performance at all...

I just bought a new distributor rotor for my h23 for about $15. Although it's not doing me much good now because I bent valves when my Timing belt snapped about 2 weeks ago...
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:35 PM
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caps and rotors wear out in 2 ways. one the metal points on them get corroded and or worn down after a while. Two, the plastic has emi shielding designed into it. Over time the shielding in the plastic breaks down and allows electro magnetic interference to happens and thus decrease the efficiency of the spark. Does that make sense? hope that helps.
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:10 AM
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OUch, gota change that timing belt... sorry to hear that. Look at the bright side, this is an opportunity to upgrade parts while your in there repairing the head. Performance cams? Bore out the cylinder? Lots of $$$ though....
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Old 03-03-2008, 11:49 AM
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Clean/replace gaskets as necessary on the following: EGR, IACV, VTEC solenoid, replace PCV, check all vacuum hoses for leaks/worn hoses. Don't forget the easy stuff like Air Filter. NGK Iridiums are also recommended over Platinums (from me at least)... Do the cap and rotor, and what kind of shape is your battery in?

Also.. when you say that it's starting to feel it's age... what specifically do you mean? What are the symptoms? PS, you may also be eligible for a free "emissions tune up" from Honda. Ask your dealership about Honda Service Bulletin 98-081 from March 18, 2003.

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Originally Posted by Taken from service bulletin
Between 75,000 and 150,000 miles - At this time the
dealer should:

• Inspect the OBD system again, and replace any
parts that have caused a DTC to set.
• Replace the distributor cap, rotor, ignition wires, and
spark plugs.
• Change the oil and oil filter.

All of the above services are free of charge to the
owner. You must use Honda parts and fluids for this
service.
This warranty can only be used once per vehicle (it's done by VIN, not by owner).. and you can check to see if it has been cashed in on your car yet by checking the following.

If your car has already undergone the complimentary 75k-150k Inspection, there will be a small center punch mark underneath the second digit of your engine compartment's VIN tag (I.E. BB6...), and you are not eligible for it again.

If your car has already undergone the 75-150k Service, there will be a similar center punch mark underneath the third digit of your engine compartment vin tag (I.E. BB6...), and you are not eligible for it again.

Edit: Here is the link to the service bulletin in PDF format... print this out and bring it to your dealer to ensure they don't try to rip you off. It's a shame you didn't find this sooner... plugs and wires are included.

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Old 03-03-2008, 05:57 PM
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No specific symptoms. Just an overall feeling when driving that the car is a little sluggish at times.

Do you have to remove IM to gain access to egr to clean and replaced gaskets?

Can the vtec solenoid be access by removing the valve cover? Is it a very involved procedure? Ive never taken the valve cover off... would be interesting to see whats under there tho
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You don't need to remove anything to get to the EGR valve. I've never done the vtec solenoid myself though so I don't know about that... I thought there used to be a guide to all of the above right here on PZ... but I can't find the how-to's anymore... so even though I don't want to, I'm gonna link you to a different forum for the write ups... but you gotta promise to stay loyal to PZ =P.

These following 2 articles are hosted by preludepower.

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Cleaning your Vtec solenoid how-to


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Id say change the fuel filter.. havent seen that in the list, and its a pretty general part of a tune up.

Sparkplugs, fuel filter, and dizzy cap make up the general "tune up" that a shop offers.
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Yeah, i have a fuel filter. I just haven't had time to install. I was changing my distributor cap and rotor last night, and the screw that holds the rotor in started to strip out. It is REALLY in there tight. Any ideas on how to get this f***er out? Maybe I should start a new thread for this
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Dude... why don't you just take it to the honda dealership and get it done for free like I suggested 5 posts ago =P.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taken from service bulletin
Between 75,000 and 150,000 miles - At this time the
dealer should:

• Inspect the OBD system again, and replace any
parts that have caused a DTC to set.
Replace the distributor cap, rotor, ignition wires, and
spark plugs.

• Change the oil and oil filter.

All of the above services are free of charge to the
owner.
You must use Honda parts and fluids for this
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Try to turn it to tighten a very little to break it free and it should come right off.
its what i had to do
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or use PB blaster. that **** works miracles... or try hitting the butt end of the screwdriver with a hammer while you turn it... also works miracles.
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wd-40, double check that your screwdriver is the right size and the bit isnt shot to hell
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I wouldnt spray anything in there if I was you since that is the main part of your ignition and its all open right there I had the same problem with mine...it sounds kind of dangerous but I took a small hammer and hit the end of the screw driver while turning it and it finally came loose but be careful not to bend the shaft that it is on...I did this about 2 weeks ago when I first got my lude so its fresh in my memory seems like it gave me better throttle response when I was done.
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actually wd-40 is fine for things like this, it displaces moisture and safe for ignitions. It lists it on can and website....i mean dont make a puddle, just use sparingly, let sit and wipe off the rest.
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WD-40 is fine... WD stands for Water Displacement... most people get that confused and think it is strictly a lubricant... but that is not the case.

Right on that list is what you're lookin for =)

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All good ideas I wish I had tried before the screw became completely stripped. So what are my options now? Drill it out somehow? Either that or leave the damn thing in there forever... I refuse to do that. I swear, this car has some seriously seized bolts/screws. My header/cat bolts were a f*&^%in b!tch too. The WD40 and hammer techniques I will DEFINITELY use in the future. Thanks for those ideas guys.
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:57 PM
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Sears has a kit that extracts stripped bolts and such.....I have such kit, and it works so-so on heavy rusted stuff. so it ought to be ok for you.....if it doesnt work just return it to sears.....
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Hmm I learn somthin new on here everyday...hell I would have used WD on mine if I would have know that.
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