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Old 02-10-2008, 10:41 AM
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remote start on 97 prelude

workin in japan and recently purchased a 97 prelude and was wondering if someone knows if i need any bypasses for a 97 prelude to work with a remote start system? i used to be an installer at CC so i can install it myself, but the sites i refer to for wiring give me differing opinions on whether or not a 97 prelude needs an immobilizer bypass module. i do have a japanese, right-side drive prelude, and i don't know if that would make any difference? any help would be appreciated as i would like to order my system soon. and btw, japanese remote starts are way less cool then those from the states. why would i want to shut off my engine to unlock my doors? something that all japanese systems i've seen require me to do.
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:57 AM
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Auto or manual? Don't think you'd want it on a manual although I've heard of it being done before. The clutch has to be phyically pushed in before the engine will start, so you'd have to bypass that somehow and pray that you left the stick in neutral before starting. I don't know of any write-ups on this, auto or manual. Good luck.
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its an auto, and yea, its confusing getting different responses at different sites and not knowing if there is a difference between japanese and american prelude for this kind of install. is there an easy way to tell if my car has the immobilizer system? sorry, don't know much about it or preludes right now.
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When you shut the car off you should see a blinking "key" icon in the gauge cluster. Blinks like 3 or 4 times, that's the immobilizer system arming itself.
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Old 02-10-2008, 05:50 PM
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YES you need a bypass. i installed a viper 5900 on my car recently.
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Some alarm systems can do it, but I can't see the value of it. Other than when you walk up to the car with a bunch of people and you hit the button and it starts, and everyone goes "wow."
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When you shut the car off you should see a blinking "key" icon in the gauge cluster. Blinks like 3 or 4 times, that's the immobilizer system arming itself.
when i turn my car off it doesnt do that, nothin blinks and im pretty sure that my car didnt come with a factory anti-theft system. my keyless entry remote only has two buttons and doesn't have the third red button that i have seen many places online.

broncosi, does yours have the blinking key icon? is yours a 97 prelude? is it american or japanese version? (i'm guessing american one) i've seen sites online that show 97-01 need bypassed and ones that show 98-01 need bypassed. i'm just trying not to buy any unnecessary parts as it will be very hard to return them seeing as how i live in japan.

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yea i have a 2000 and yes i have the blinking light, i lost my keys for a day and i used a trick, where i have my spare key thats not from honda(so it wont start the car but it will turn on the accesories) and i put it in the ignition and turn it on then use the remote start to actually crank the car. It worked but the anti theft key light blinked non stop while driving because it doesnt sense that chip in the key being in the ignition.

and about the factory alarm, i dont think the key light has anything to do with that other than to remind you to take your keys. I never had a factory alarm on mine or keyless entry.

Also let me know what the price is that your going to pay for your bypass and ill see if i can get one cheaper and ship it your way.
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Old 02-11-2008, 12:16 AM
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Don't they make a bypass for 5 speeds for remote starts?
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yea but your going to be pressed for luck if you can find a dealer that will install it. Most dealers and larger corperations that carry remote starts have restricted their installers from performing installs of remote starts on manuals for saftey/legal reasons.
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hey broncosi, thanks for the offer, but i found the bypass on ebay for $15 including s&h. so i can't beat that. even if i don't need it i don't feel bad wasting just $15. and as far as putting a remote start on a M/T, i know we weren't allowed to touch them at circuit city in the installer bay and i'm pretty sure the local best buy had the same policy.
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ok, i finally got the remote start installed in my car...which by the way did not need a bypass (jdm thing i guess) and now im just wondering where i can find the lock/unlock wires...ive looked where a few wiring diagrams have told me it should be (they are for usdm, not jdm, i dont know if that makes a difference in wire coloring) and i cant seem to find what they describe as the correct wires...does anyone know of a module in the drivers kick panel that they would be coming in/out of? possibly with pictures to show? thanks for any help...
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The wires aren't different colours, just on the other side of the car. So when the USDM guide says "drivers side" it still means the side the steering wheel is on.
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lol @ Rob

Brash22 i realize that, i guess im just not seeing them...would u happen to have a picture of where they are? and ive looked at two different wiring diagrams, both provided different colors and locations...
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Interesting :smoker:How much does a good remote -start kit usually go for?
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u can pick up a name brand one for 200-300 dollars at circuit city or best buy, most times including install fee....that was last time i checked, but its been a while....if u can wire yourself (be careful, cuz u do have to tap into ignition wires and sometimes into your key column) then you can pick up a cheaper one for under 100 dollars probably...you can find em all over ebay and at local auto parts stores sometimes...
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Thanx for tha info bro, i think i'll get the kit towards the end of the month
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Some alarm systems can do it, but I can't see the value of it. Other than when you walk up to the car with a bunch of people and you hit the button and it starts, and everyone goes "wow."

HAHA what a joke, you must live in the town of perfect from those wallgreen commercials, however here in raleigh its been 105+ degrees for the past 2 weeks and its only going to get hotter. The low at night is normally around 80 degrees so add in our southern humidity thats always present plus a "hot" date and its more than a "wow" thing to be able to get in a cool car and not have your date sweating off her makeup before we go out to eat.

the only enjoyment i get out of not using the remote start is when i take a girl out and i know shes wearing a skirt or short shorts and i wont start it know the black leather will burn her ass!
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soo.....any help on the locations of these two wires?? id like to use one key ring thingy instead of two ^^ thanks!
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dei 556uw and an extra key and youll be good
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actually, my prelude is a JDM prelude (RHD), its a 97 Si. the remote start doesn't require any extra modules to operate correctly. i currently have it installed and operating, and if you read above all that i was wondering now was if someone could help me with the location of the wires for lock & unlock. possibly with a picture of a module they are running to/from or of a bundle of wires they can be found in. i've found different information as far as wire location and colors from multiple sites and just wondering if someone here has actually encountered them. links are of a couple sites i found wiring diagrams. the first two are the same, but the third suggests a different place. anyone able to help me with either of those locations?

http://64.85.6.121/diagrams/diagram....3&link=BULLDOG
http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wir...elude/712.html
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/...tail/1081.html
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:17 AM
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ill check for a wiring schematic for which ones you need to tap into for lock/unlock when i get to work ill post the link.
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The wires are in a small I think gray plug that doesnt plug in to anything that should be on the outboard side of the steering column. I dont recall the wire colors but you should have 12v on them and they will go to ground when the lock or unlock is pressed. As long as a proper manual transmission interface (yes, interface not override) module is used they are 100% safe unless you are trying to make it start in gear. With car running set park brake while in neutral, this engages continuous run mode, get out of the car, shut door. Car turns off. If a door is opened before it is remote started it will not start. Fail safe. You would have to try to make it start in gear. Like leave a window open and reach in and put it in gear. Totally safe but cheapo remote starts dont have an option for it.
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the lock wire black/white and the unlock is blue/orange. Wires are both located in the driver kick panel. Both wires are -. Let me know if you have anymore problems ill scan the wire diagrams in when i get home this afternoon.
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i was thinkin of gettin a remote start...thanks for the help guys
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Thats weird that everyone is so against remote starters for manuals. i have a manual and all I have to do is make sure my ebrake is on and my car is in neutral. If its not all that happens is the remote starter detects that my car is in gear and doesn't try starting the car...

And for the guy who used the remote starter without chipped key, I donno how that worked cause I had my keys frozen once (prank) and I was driving and the green key light came on (musta stopped detecting the chip) and as soon as that light whent on my car shut off.
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Man i wish i could get remote start, it is illegal to have remote starters in my city if you have a manual.
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What!? A shop that doesnt do it told you that appearantly. There are no laws pertaining to remote starts particularly city laws. You cant start your car and leave it unattended with the keys in it but nothing about a remote start. Particularly biased against a certain transmission. You may wanna look deeper into that.
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They do installs of alarms and remote starters, because i was gonna buy one for about 400. but never got all the way to it. because of that and since i have been working on other jobs with car.
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