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Old 02-07-2008, 03:37 AM
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tien type FLEX... new sways or no?

I'm about to install some tien type flex coilovers.. I have stock sway bars, but i am thinking about swapping them out as well. am I going to need new sways or if i put some new ones in am i going to kill the effect of the coilovers??
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I recently had the Type flex installed last weekend, I'm not totally done though. I still have to get the EDFC and strut and tie bars on, it was incredibly corroded though so I have to drive it for a couple of days so the anti-corrosion "stuff" (can't remember the name of it for the life of me) can work its magic.

Right now, without the edfc, it rides incredibly rough but it handles amazingly as well. It was really hard getting the struts on though because I have a neuspeed sway and it's incredibly stiff and made it difficult to get the struts on.

Apparently the rear end is more likely to kick out when you have a rear sway bar, I haven't had that happen yet (I've had the bar for five years) Now with the Tein kit on it seems even more unlikely, I have yet to lose traction and I'm running on stock wheels with Toyo Proxes.

You don't need new sways and if you get them I would only go with the rear and it certainly would not kill the effect of the coilovers. Do be prepared for a much rougher ride regardless though, I wouldn't even think of getting urethane bushings at this point, we'll see after I get the EDFC put in on Saturday.
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am i going to kill the effect of the coilovers??
no. i have the flex's and the neuspeed rear sway bar. car handles like it's on rails.

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Right now, without the edfc, it rides incredibly rough but it handles amazingly as well.
edfc has nothing to do with how stiff your ride is. it just lets you adjust your dampening electronically from inside the cabin. if the ride is rough right now, adjust the dampening by hand. your flex's should have come with a little hex screwdriver... for adjusting the dampening.
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edfc has nothing to do with how stiff your ride is. it just lets you adjust your dampening electronically from inside the cabin. if the ride is rough right now, adjust the dampening by hand. your flex's should have come with a little hex screwdriver... for adjusting the dampening.
That depends on how you use the word I suppose. I use it as an antonym to damp, in regards to softness of course, not wet. Or as a synonym to rough.

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Don't you want a little bit of oversteeeeeeeer when driving hard? I know, for a fact, unless you have an SH with a working ATTS (unlike me), your lude is gonna understeer like a mofo. And slight oversteer is what you want. With my suspension setup, I haven't really pushed it to its limits yet. but I know, when i had stock suspension, it understeered when turning (with about half throttle) and then snap-oversteered when I let off. Sooo, my point is...sway bars aint gonna hurt nothin, although they wont make much of a difference unless you've got a non-stock suspension setup.
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That depends on how you use the word I suppose. I use it as an antonym to damp, in regards to softness of course, not wet. Or as a synonym to rough.
This sentence is confusing.... What word are you using as an antonym to damp? Dampening??? Wouldn't that be, "to dampen"? An antonym to damp would be dry.... I'm just confused as to what word you are using as an antonym to damp(ening) and a synonym to rough...

Bottom line is, you don't have to wait till you get your EDFC to adjust the dampening... you can make it softer or harder by hand... that's the point hotrod is trying to make. Your EDFC simply controls that from inside the cabin.
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A rear swaybar will help the cause. But if you run out of money it can wait.
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This sentence is confusing.... What word are you using as an antonym to damp? Dampening??? Wouldn't that be, "to dampen"? An antonym to damp would be dry.... I'm just confused as to what word you are using as an antonym to damp(ening) and a synonym to rough...

Bottom line is, you don't have to wait till you get your EDFC to adjust the dampening... you can make it softer or harder by hand... that's the point hotrod is trying to make. Your EDFC simply controls that from inside the cabin.
I consider rough and stiff to be the same while damp/en/ing to be the opposite of stiff or rough.
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nice.. thanks for help.. but what would help even more would be a sweet write up with photos on how to do this. I've been surfing around the net and i see some decent write ups on different cars.. i just don't want to fu.ck up my ride.. i'm getting new rims and wheels so after i install the tiens i don't want to destroy my tires on the way to the getting everything aligned. any tips mckillio or hotrod?
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I consider rough and stiff to be the same while damp/en/ing to be the opposite of stiff or rough.
rough and stiff are NOT the same. look the words up in the dictionary. Although your use of grammar in attempt to fight your way out of that statement was mildly impressive.
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Is this a thread about grammar and word usage? Or a thread about sway bars?
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excuse me. MY suspension setup owns all!

I do however agree with brash. If you have to put off the sway bars, it's ok. They do however compliment a good setup nicely.
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nice.. thanks for help.. but what would help even more would be a sweet write up with photos on how to do this. I've been surfing around the net and i see some decent write ups on different cars.. i just don't want to fu.ck up my ride.. i'm getting new rims and wheels so after i install the tiens i don't want to destroy my tires on the way to the getting everything aligned.
There's a thread stickied at the top of the Tyre/Wheel forum with all the details you need in it. It lists the tyre sizes and wheel offsets recommended from what has been experienced by all who have modified the fifth generation Preludes since 1997.
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i'd recommend you to ride on your old tires and rims for a week after you install the teins. reason is you want to give the teins some time to settle in. then, after that first week, do the alignment with the new tires and rims.
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