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Old 02-03-2008, 12:59 AM
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Timing belt issues... I think

So i just recently got my timing belt changed and ever since i got it back the car has been making this really loud squealing noise the first 10-20 seconds i have the car on... Its usually happens when its cold out but i had never heard that sound before i had got the timing belt changed. Also there is a constant noise of a belt(i think) and when i push the clutch even very slightly the sound goes away. however this sound is always there, not like the really loud squealing noise thats there only at the beginning. Any ideas of what this could be? help would be appreciated greatly
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Old 02-03-2008, 01:09 AM
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yea the squeal is T belt...the other im not sure...

the squeal is becuz the belt has moisture on it...i think...dont quote me
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So does it need time to settle in or something, cause thats what my cousin told me. or was the timing belt job unsuccessful.

I really have no idea about this stuff... that sound is really really bad!
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tell u the truth...i dont know much about my car...or anything else in that matter...but i try to help


just wait and someone will pick up on this, also try to search cuz i think this subjects been up a few times
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when i 1st did my t-belt it did whine for a little bit and it has gone slowly away. make sure u didnt over tighten ur accessory belts
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Did they change the water pump and tensioner also? Your tensioner may be wearing out if they didn't replace it.

As for pushing in the clutch and sound goes away kind of throws me off, The motor is still turning when the clutch is in so your timing belt should still be making a noise if its your timing belt.

Otherwise sounds like a release bearing (throw out bearing) going bad.

Hard to diagnose the problem without being there to hear it in person.
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I've heard a rumour that there's a certain belt that makes the squealing noise... I don't quite remember what one.
But my t belt was making the same noise and i've just ignored it...
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is it a pulsating sound or a squeal?
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did they replace your tensioner pulley? I've heard that the new belt with more tension than your old worn out belt had can make a failing tensioner pulley start to squeal.
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The water pump was replace but the tensioner was not. I havent heard the sound for a couple of days now but thats also because its been a little warmer out, i think the noise only sounds when its really cold out. The guy who changed the timing belt said that he would change the tensioner if it looked like it needed to be replace, but i guess he thought it was fine? the other quieter sound is coming from back of the engine like near the transmission i think, maybe its something to do with the clutch...
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ALWAYS replace the tensioner!!
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no kiddin always do the water pump and tensioner while you are in there it can save sooo much time and headache.
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does the clutch vibrate or just make a noise? it might be your throw out bearing but i don't see why now after a timing belt change it would appear- maybe your serpentine belts are wearing aswell?
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Some people talk about this like " the famous noise of timing belt replacement"

I change all timing belt kit, and my workpals says:this is b'cos the belt is new...don't worry
6000kms and the sound is every time more soft....
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^^lol. the clutch doesnt vibrate. i was also thinking it was the throwout bearing... if it is the throw out bearing does that mean i have to change the clutch or do i just wait til my clutch goes bad and than do all that stuff? cause i dont think it would make sense to go through the work of taking out the transmission and not change the clutch.

I havent heard the timing belt sound since about last week... does that mean im fine or do you guys still think i have to change the tensioner? and what are the consequences of a tensioner failure?

Thanks for the responses!
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consequences areee...... needing a new motor.


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damn! shoulda got a new tensioner
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So i just recently got my timing belt changed and ever since i got it back the car has been making this really loud squealing noise the first 10-20 seconds i have the car on... Its
Well, the timing belt is a toothed belt, so it can't "squeal" across the cam pulleys. Two possibilities how I see it. The most likely one is that the guy didn't tension the alternator or PS belt properly. They are what is making the squealing noise. It is also possible that the timing belt tensioner is frozen and making the noise, but I doubt that. Check the accessory belts first. They might be loose, or might have oil or grease on them.

The throwout bearing would make the opposite noise that you are describing. It only rotates when the clutch is pushed in. With the clutch out it just sits there. Sounds more like the input shaft bearing in the tranny might be a little noisy. Check your tranny oil level.

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Ah but the tensioner does not go on the toothed side of the belt, so if that bearing in there is going bad then yes it would squeal like a pig, okay maybe not a pig.

But seriously if that tensioner pulley starts to seeze up your new belt is toast, and if it breaks your valves are toast.

As for the clutch, Good way to check if the clutch is worn, find a steep hill start from the bottom and go slow as you start up the hill and put the car into a high gear like 4th and smash the gas pedal to the floor, if it slips you need a new clutch. Funny thing is if you havn't replaced it before, I'd say get a clutch kit and replace the whole thing while your in there, saves you time and money in the long run.
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Sure, the tensioner runs on the smooth side of the belt. However, I would think that if the tensioner bearing was going bad, it would be noisy all time, not just at start up (not saying it is impossible, just that I've never seen it). I have heard tensioners that made a noise at a certain rpm, but they _always_ did it, not just at startup.

I think it is much more likely to be an accessory belt, especially considering they were all removed and replaced when the timing belt was done.

The only noise that I can think of that goes away when the clutch is depressed is a transmission input shaft bearing. Throwout bearing and pilot bushing would act the opposite way.

Is it possible that the noise you hear when the clutch is out was always there, but now since you are listening closer you are just noticing it?

Just my $0.02
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Thanks guys... what do you recommend i do? should i replace the tensioner now or should i just let it be? the car has 84,000 miles on it, and i think your right, the sound from the clutch area was probably there before, iprobably never payed any attention to it.
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Well, if you just got the timing belt done recently, and you paid to have it done at a professional garage, I'd take it back and ask them to check it out.

If you don't have that option, well then it depends. If the belts are not new, you could replace them and tension them properly. If they are newer, you could remove, clean and tension them properly. That should only take a couple of hours in the driveway. (make sure you clean the pulleys with a rag and some solvent before you put the belts back on).

So, it depends on your situation.
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