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What Suspension??

Hi all,
I have just bought a 99 2.2 VTEC prelude.
I am picking it up at the end of the week and can't wait to start modifying.

Will post pictures once i get the car.

Ok .. what i need help or advice is what is the best suspension setup suited for this car?
I am looking to change the shockers and the springs with a 40mm drop.(do not want coilovers)

Now normally when i have lowered a car i always go for Bilstein sports shockers and Eibach springs, has anyone got this setup on their prelude? I have looked and it seems this is not possible.

Your thoughts and advice?
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I have not done a suspension on mine yet. I'm not too sure but Bilsteins or Sachs are good I hear. So Bilsteins w/ Eibach springs is not possible you say?

Have you looked into Skunk2 products? I'm not going to do my suspension until I have the 18" wheels on and the body (lip) kit put on. Plus I have to some how tuck a 3" exhaust piping under there somewhere. (boosting it) I will have to see if it will be possible at all to drop if any.
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I have tokicko 1.5" drop strut/spring combo and they do pretty well. I think they were like $500 brand new give or take a little
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I am looking for BBilstein Shockeers with EEibach springs but alal the websites i have seen so far do not sell these products for the prelude.
Is there a reason for this? I can get the Koni setup but would really prefer the Bilstein/Eibach.

I will also be getting 18's but not just yet, will i have a problem dropping the car on the standrd 16's and then later on upgrading to 18's.
Usually i would do wheels first but this time i want the suspenion done asap.
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can you guys give me websites where i can buy or look at these suspension parts from, i'm from the UK so not a massive variety here for these cars so might have to get it imported from the states.
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im from the UK too and i have stock shocks with Tein s tech springs and they work perfect.
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try this site: www.optionsauto.com - they do ship to the UK and their prices are very competetive or www.tokyo-express.co.uk

I would be very careful when getting advice on shocks and springs. reason being is that USA roads are very different to that in the UK, what might necessarily be excellent in the states may not be too healthy for your lude here. e.g they dont have as many ramps / speed humps as we do, their tarmac is also smoother/flatter than that in the UK as well as having different speed limits and restrictions.

Im not knocking brands in the US and most will work perfectly but some softer shocks like tokicos will make your car bounce a lot due to pot holes and ditches depending on where u live in the UK but its not really their fault because it does say for 'US roads only' on them.

What i realised the hard way is it is better to stick to the well known brands rather than go for something cheaper and regret it later.

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R8GYY i agree with what you have just said which is why i am specifically looking for the Bilstein/Eibach setup as it is one i have used before and know it is very highly rated.

The springs you are using, how are they? how much drop is there and is it very firm or firm enough to live with, has it given you more confidence in the bends?

Can`you send me a link to thhe exact springs you got please i will consider them.
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Tein s tech springs - for 1997-2001 5th gen honda prelude 2.2 vtec 4ws (bearing in mind even if it says not for the 4ws it doesnt matter coz they still work)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-PRELUDE-...QQcmdZViewItem

here u go.. if u look around hard enuf u may even get them cheaper..they are always cheaper in the US due to currency difference but if u can find someone in the US to ship them out for you u might make a saving.
The Tein s tech springs i think are perfect for our roads..they have good handling and ride comfort is acceptable (not too stiff)

plus the stance is really good, there is about 2 fingers clearance on the arches but u have to be a little careful on speed ramps

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Thanks dude
Have saved the link and will consider them.
Thats another thing i was unsure about when some say not for the 4ws model why will it not fit? will it affect the 4ws in anyway?
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no...they say not for 4ws because they are very rare in the USA and they are not sure wether they will fit or not therefore to save themselves the hassle they just say not for 4ws..4ws doesnt have any bearing on the springs or shocks unless you have the SiR vtec 5th gen then u may have to be a little careful but can still fit most shocks and springs.
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I will also be getting 18's but not just yet, will i have a problem dropping the car on the standrd 16's and then later on upgrading to 18's.
Usually i would do wheels first but this time i want the suspenion done asap.
No, you will have to go with a pretty low profile of tire though. I looked at a 1999 SH that was lowered about 1.5 to 2 " and it had 18" Hart Racing wheels without even using a camber kit on it. I forget the tire size but I think it was a 215 40ZR 18 I could be wrong. But his rode great I think his was running on a Koni set up.

p.s. If you really want a good suspension look and see if Ohlins makes anything for the Prelude. Your talking big money though, I'd get them if I hit the lottery. With enough need for them if Ohlins doesn't make them I'm sure they would look into making a set for the Prelude. Alot of Rally cars use Ohlins

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you should be able to get away with a 215 35 zr18 or possibly get your arches rolled and you will definatly need a camber adjustment kit - i go through a set of tyres in 3 months because i cant be bothered hunting for camber kits and mine are only 17"
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no...they say not for 4ws because they are very rare in the USA and they are not sure wether they will fit or not therefore to save themselves the hassle they just say not for 4ws..4ws doesnt have any bearing on the springs or shocks unless you have the SiR vtec 5th gen then u may have to be a little careful but can still fit most shocks and springs.
Thanks mate, that makes sense now.
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How much have you lowered your Lude R8GYY?

Yeah maybe come to think about it that guy did have 35's on his 99 SH. But he was riding without a camber kit. I didn't notice if he rolled the fenders though. He did have the Z3 type fenders though so they were probably already rolled.

I think I have a picture of that guys car, I was going to buy it before I found out from CARFAX it was a salvage. So I got my 97 Base model instead. When I get home from work I'll look for it and post it up it was a very good looking Lude, just about too overdone but still clean looking.

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Yeah maybe come to think about it that guy did have 35's on his 99 SH. But he was riding without a camber kit. I didn't notice if he rolled the fenders though. He did have the Z3 type fenders though so they were probably already rolled.
mine is lowered 40mm and i had to roll my arches coz im on 215/40zr17"
i say arch rolling but really i just took an angle grinder to the lip and cut away 1.5cm off the lip because when ur turning the 4ws turns the rear wheels and if you hit a bump at that time u get some rubbing.
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im suprised you cant lower the car by 40mm with 18's without rolling the arches.

I don't like the idea of rolling the arches so what should i look at? 17inch rimms with 30mil drop?
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if you get shocks too then u will be ok dropping by 40mm with 18's and still not have to get arches rolled.. but if u run it on stock shocks then u may have to get arches rolled or other option is to go for 205/40 that way the tyre will be on the inside of the arch but the width of the tyre will be thinner
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thats the plan dude, get new shocks with springs on 18's.

Thinking of these alloys, always liked them but never got round to getting them.

http://www.topgear.co.uk/acatalog/4x...225_40_18_.php
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what rims do u have on ur car at the moment??

those rims are nice...but too common i have seen about six 4th gens within a 1/4 mile with those rims..but yeah those are good... i am looking for the motegi rims but they cost an arm and a leg...i should never have gotten rid of my old ones
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Maybe it would be better to go a little thinner on the tire size. Less hydro plane 'ing (sliding on top of the water)
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thats exactly what i was thinking
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Tt the moment got the standard wheels on.
They are a bit common but not seen many around on 5thgen in Manchester and i've always likedthese rims so will most likely get them.
hopefully picking up the car early next week or late this week so will make final decisions then.
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Here is that photo of that 98 SH, that was lowered with 18's without a camber kit.

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damn them front wheels looks well low...u see in the Uk if u have it that low and without camber u would hit the arches and rip ur exhaust off and leave it lying in the middle of the road
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where can you get a camber kit from? Looks like if i want to do this properly i am going to have to invest in one.

(off topic i couldnt access this forum since Sunday, did anyone else have this problem or was it just me?)
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where can you get a camber kit from? Looks like if i want to do this properly i am going to have to invest in one.

(off topic i couldnt access this forum since Sunday, did anyone else have this problem or was it just me?)
yeah bro..site was down all day today ..prob due to MLK Day and Stonewall Jackson

btw i have just the thing for ya..

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Thanks mate,
Your up late LOL you from the UK?
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Manchester here.
Im off sick from work think i got that virus that has been going around and can't sleep.

What exactly do the chamber kits actually do? I understand the basic principles of positive/negative chamber but where do these kits actually go adn what are their purpose?
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