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Old 01-18-2008, 12:08 PM
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Rear main seal part numbers and isntallation

Aight guys, I got a question. Within the next few weeks, my car will be going into the transmission repair shop for a clutch and flywheel install. While they have my transmission off, I'd like to see if they will replace my rear main seal (do you think they would even do this for me, first of all?). If they agree to do it for me... what is the appropriate part number for my 97 Prelude SH.

When I go to Majestic Honda, it has two separate part numbers listed for "oil seal" number 45. I don't see anything on their that could be the front main seal... is one of these number 45's a rear, and one of these a front main seal? I'm confused. Help!


^^Edit: Just noticed that the front seal(s) is located on the oil pump, that's why I couldn't find it in the diagram for the cylinder block... but my question about the rear seal still stands... what is the difference between the two parts? And do you think the transmission guys will give me a hard time baout replacing it?

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Ok, got a little more info.. The actual part numbers are:
  • 91214-PAA-A01
  • 91214-P7A-004

They both have the same part description "Oil Seal (80x100x10)", so what is the difference? Sigh.

Edit: Alright lol, I just got a little more "information". Upon doing a google search for "91214-P7A-004" I found a service bulletin saying that this is the same part previously used as the rear main seal on civics, and that it specifically failed on them and would leak oil from between the engine and transmission... So, that being said, I think i'll go with the 91214-PAA-A01... but still.. any more info/help would be greatly appreciated guys.

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Anyone? Also, to replace the rear main seal, do the oil pan and crank have to be removed, or can it be replaced simply while the transmission is out of place? Because if it can be replaced with the transmission out of place, i might just ask the transmission shop to call me before they install my clutch and flywheel and I'd come do it myself if they refuse to do it for me.

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ah, on my 3rd Gen it did not have to come off, simply just removed old rear seal and put in the new one. Make sure not to use a screwdriver (I used needle nose pliers to take the old one out) for removal or installation, putting the new one in you might want to use a leather mallet or something round same diameter of the seal to seat it in properly. But I think the 5th Gen is probably the same case, I don't think you will have to remove the oil pan, plus if you were to take them the rear seal I think they will throw that in for you.

*BUT WATCH OUT FOR THEM TO USE A SCREWDRIVER*
that would be an easy way for them to have you back in for service later you have to watch shops closely now-a-days. If you know and trust a shop but if not try to be there and watch them put in the seal. One slip of the screwdriver and your block is screwed.
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Lol i'm gonna be right up there ass every step of the way. They are gonna hate me lol. I even printed out the pages from the manual on ATTS removal, transmission removal, clutch removal/install, and flywheel removal/install. I'm sure they know how to do all of that (except for maybe the ATTS), but I printed all that stuff out so that they have all the factory Torque specs... they better use that shxt!

God, I'm so freakin' excited to get my Lude back on the street. I haven't driven it since early December! I'm droppin in the lightened flywheel, and a Centerforce II clutch... i feel like a child right before Christmas!

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ok... so now I'm even more confused... I went ahead and ordered one of the parts... and I got a third different part number... the part number I got is 91214-PLE-003.... how many different part numbers do they have for the same damn part.... Mike (H4L), if you read this, please drop some knowledge on me... let me know I got the right part here lol.
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I am doing a clutch install myself in the next couple of weeks. I went to the dealership yesterday and I told the parts guy that I needed a rear main crank seal. He gave me part # 91214-PLE-003. I don't know why there are three different part #'s listed on slhonda parts in the link above. Good luck with everything.
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Lol... and the first two part numbers on there are different from the first two that I got... so that brings us up to 5 completely different part numbers... all listed as "Oil Seal (80x100x10)" lol... well.. i assume that the 80 by 100 by 10 is the dimensions of the seal... and that's probably the most important aspect... I assume that it is 10mm thick, has an ID of 80mm and an OD of 100mm.

Thanks for the help man.

Edit: so this was taken from the slhonda site

91214-P7A-004 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (ARAI) $12.49 $2.93
91214-PH1-004 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (ARAI) $12.49 $2.93
91214-PAA-A01 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (NOK) $12.49 $2.93
91214-PH1-661 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (NOK) $12.49 $2.93
91214-PLE-003 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (NOK) $12.49 $2.93

^^^ so what's the difference? Manufacturer I guess... I was just concerned because on my receipt they listed part number 91214-P7A-004, and then the part that they actually shipped me was the PLE-003... I thought they shipped the wrong part.

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I think it was a part manufacturer thing and they may have also changed designs over the years for improvement purposes.
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Re: Rear main seal part numbers and isntallation

old thread but helped me out big time in ordering this part. Bought it from paragon honda and seems like the part they gave me was


91214-PLE-003 OIL SEAL (80X100X10) (NOK) 16.83 11.95

and the Seal is now brown the stock one on mine was black so they changed the color.
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Re: Rear main seal part numbers and isntallation

Here is some up to date info:

Part:_____________Part Number:_____________Cost:___________Location:
Rear Main Seal:.......91214-PLE-003...................$19.69...................Bet ween Transmission and Side Cover Assembly/Block
Front Crank Seal:....91212-PAA-A01...................$9.56.....................Oi l Pump
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