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Old 01-15-2008, 11:39 PM
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Ok - I bought my black 97 Prelude SH in August of 2007 and have been driving it basically stock aside from a pioneer deck and a couple of speakers and I'm deciding it's time to step up and make it my car. I'll have to wash it this weekend and get pics up. Anyone who has reccomendations on products or reccomendations on how to make some of this work cost effective or tips on doing any of this work LET ME KNOW!!! Here's my list of things to do in order of priority:

1. Black Rims/ New Tires (Budget: $800)
2. Lowering Springs 1"-1.4" (Budget ($300)
3. Garmin Navi (Budget: $400)
- Mounted top left corner of windshield
4. Upgrade Sound for Deeper Bass (Budget: Cheap as Possible)
- Considered adding small amp to current speakers or small amp
and sub.
5. Reduce Speaker Vibration (Budget: ???)
- On heavy bass hits my current speakers rattle the plastic pieces in the car - how can I get rid of this?
6. Change Trim (Budget: $200)
-Brushed Aluminum/Cherry Woodgrain
7. Shortened Shifter/ Short Throw Shifter (Budget: $100)
8. Cheap Performance (Budget:???)
- Headers
- Intake
- Performance Computer
9. XM Radio (Budget: $200 for unit)

Thats about it for now. I'm a noob to tuning or doing any of this so PLEASE let me know of any reccomendations you guys might have for these upcoming projects. I'm primarily interested in advice on the bass/vibration/improving sound issue and the best deal on lowering springs. Any tuners in the SD area let me know!! Thanks.
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I would/plan on, going with a DVD Navigation system. It fits perfectly in the center console. You install it where the "cd/storage holder" is below the cd player, it's more expensive then the GPS but it has many more features and looks amazing.

Do you have key-less entry? That along with no digital climate control were my two biggest complaints about my car. I got key-less entry/alarm installed today, I love it.

As far as performance I would definitely start with suspension and wheel/tire combo. I would start with strut and tie bars. You should probably re-think your budget for the wheels and tires. You get what you pay for.

With the age of your car, how many miles do you have, I would get wires, plugs, rotor, and external coil. I would also start with a pulley set, personally I'm against crank pulleys, with exceptions of course.
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1. Black Rims/ New Tires (Budget: $800)
You get what you pay for. Save a little longer and buy some good quality rims with good rubber. These are what keeps you going where you wanna go, don't skimp on quality here.

2. Lowering Springs 1"-1.4" (Budget ($300)
As above. But having said that, what's a set of Neuspeed Races worth over there? Tein S Tech, Eibach, etc. Also if you plan on driving the car fast then budget to replace the shocks as well soon after. They go to chit not very quickly when running lowered springs.


4. Upgrade Sound for Deeper Bass (Budget: Cheap as Possible)
- Considered adding small amp to current speakers or small amp
and sub.

I had a mate who put together a small box with a 8" sub in it, running 100WRMS. Sounded great and gave the system the balls it required. Have you upgraded from the speakers? Don't bother amping the stockers, it's just not worth it. Been there, done that.

5. Reduce Speaker Vibration (Budget: ???)
- On heavy bass hits my current speakers rattle the plastic pieces in the car - how can I get rid of this?

Turn the volume down. Or you could spend a half hour punching all the plastic bits to see which ones are moving lots. Movement = vibration. Take them off and put a kitchen sponge or two in there. The sponges aren't that good a sound deadening product, but they're cheap and will probably do the job.

7. Shortened Shifter/ Short Throw Shifter (Budget: $100)
You've narrowed yourself down there. Neuspeed have on the market a short shift adapter, which retails I believe in the region of US$100. Other alternatives? 4Bidden haven't finished theirs yet, but it'll probably be the other side of $200. If you can find a Lean Racing that would be great. There are others, but not in that budget. Search, this was covered not long ago.

8. Cheap Performance (Budget:???)
- Headers
- Intake
- Performance Computer

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but there's no cheap performance. A good header will probably cost you in the region of $500. As for the intake, it has been dyno proven that even the best on the market is only slightly (and by that I mean half a WHP) better than the stocker with a K&N filter. Again this was covered not long ago if you do a quick search. As for tuning, a second hand VAFC can be picked up for around about $100 from the classifieds of most Honda forums and will be good enough for the basic breathing mods of intake/header/exhaust.

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Mckillo,

All this other stuff is as a result of me deciding not to go with an in dash - I plan to later down the road but for now I like the garmin in the corner of the windshield, hold a little screen up there when you get a chance - it looks cool and gets the job done.

Keyless entry is def. on my mind - local shops have great product + install deals so that'll get done soon.

I've come across some really good deals on wheels locally and some other internet steals on wheel/tire combos ,that's the reason for the low budget.

It's good to know that people I've talked to like that I'm starting with traction/handling oriented performance.

I'm coming up on 94k miles so - of your reccomendations on performance (plugs, rotor, wires, ext. coil) I like ext. coil the best but all those are excellent ideas for performance/gas consumption and I def. will consider.

THANKS!!!!
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Brash,

I'm actually extremely happy - advice - good or bad - is still advice.

1. As i told Mckillo, the reasoning behind the low budget is excellent deals that I've found. I have a guy who's done a ton of performance work looking over my shoulder with all this and helping me out. Of all these the low budget isn't sacrificing much quality.

2. Neuspeeds run right around $200 - perfect idea. And yes, shocks will come soon after the springs, maybe a couple months later.

3. What's your opinion on the navi set up???

4. It sounds like your friend has a similar set up that I was looking at doing. For amping the stocks, does it blow them out or make them rattle worse?? I have a pretty basic pioneer deck and front speaks are Pioneer coaxial.

5. The rattling can occur at lower volumes, it's just real intense speaker vibration that gets it, most commonly at an average volume. Sponges sound excellent and cheap, do you know any products for sound deadening - fabric or anything?

7. I'll check out this Neuspeed adapter - sounds just right. And keep my eye out for the 4Bidden one a little over $200 isnt too far fetched for that.

8. After posting that I had a good long talk with my buddy who's helping me with all this work and he also shoved the "intakes suck" joke in my face. Intake is out but WOW... never even heard of the VAFC - that's definitely a buy.

Again I'm extremely happy with your opinions/ suggestions... thanks a million!!! Definitely changed what's going in/on my car.
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I don't know anything about navi setups, which is why I didn't comment on it. I plan on getting a indash screen with a GPS hookup later on, but I don't know enough to even give bad advice on what you have proposed. But I do wonder why you would spend money on doing it then spend more later doing it properly.

As for speakers, your best bet is to go around and listen to other setups and see what you want. (Says the person who just jumps in with two feet and does something totally different) Amping the stocks gives them more volume but they're still crappy speakers; your money is better spent on a good set of front splits from a reputable manufacturer, Alpine, MB Quart etc. I've had the Pioneer stuff, I use the speakers as frisbees for the dog these days.
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