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Old 12-02-2016, 02:54 PM
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I have just bought a 97 prelude for my grandson. It is a good base. the car has 211,000 miles. Runs good and has no oil leaks. Should I try a rebuild or should I buy a used engine. I have done a lot of reading but I need good advice from you guys. I am leaning toward an engine swap, if so where is the best place to purchase one. It is important that he has a reliable car to help his family as he is the oldest of four in a single parent home. Please help me make the right decision. Thanks
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I would go with a H23a Vtec with low miles from a legit engine company. A few of my friends have went with HMO http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/whatsnew.php
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Thanks the h23 was what I was thinking. Will the engine drop in or are there modifications. If I get an h23 what should I replace on it before I install. Thanks for the quick reply. anything else I should know please feel free to tell me I can take good and bad news.
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are you saying that a rebuild is out?
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rebuilt isn't out but its easier and probably cheaper to just get a swap. 900~ ish for the engine itself compared to whatever a machine shop + parts cost

If its a base model lude the transmission will work and bolt on but not if its a SH transmission. Axles work also. Engine seals, water pump, timing belt, H23a1 Manual tensioner or Ks tensioner. Swap over the intake manifold from the H22a4 onto the H23a.. I forget exactly what electronics need to be converted but I'm sure someone on here can help with that
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if it aint broke, don't fix it. I first got my lude with 200k and I drove it all over. even did 12+ hours driving one weekend and I didn't have a single problem till I decided to do an engine swap. my lude is on its 3rd motor now but running strong.
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I would just keep driving it with the current setup if it has no major problems. Usually by the mileage you currently have the motor will be burning at least a bit of oil, just keep a regular eye on that and keep up with your timing maintenance and you should be good.

When you tear into a honda that is when the magical reliability fairies tend to escape just keep that in mind.

If for some reason you are dead set on going for a motor swap I'd also be partial to doing the H23. It seems to be the best bang for your buck depending on your current setup and whether the car is an SH or not. I had good experiences with hmotorsonline as well.
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what timing maintenance are you referring to
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By that I mean the replacement of the timing & balancer belt as well as the water pump and auto tensioner/pulley assy., should be done around every 100k miles if not a bit sooner. Its probably the most critical bit of maintenance on these cars. That and watching the oil level like a hawk until you are familiar with what your engine consumes.
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I am willing to spend the money for the swap. Are you saying that the swap could make the car less dependable. He loves the car. We don't want to do more than make it as dependable as possible. I really appreciate you guys input. I understand the timing built issue. Which is best in the long .run swap or drive it until it fails
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Do you know the last time the timing belt was replaced? Sometimes shops will put a sticker or decal on the timing cover to indicate that, or maybe it was written down somewhere. Otherwise if it is an unknown its one of those things that could last a long time or god forbid it could have a ton of miles on it and something could go wrong.

Personally I would drive it as is for now and he can just use/enjoy the car and maybe at a later point you and your grandson can work on the car together and do the timing job. Its a decent days work for two people (that have never having done it before) but it might be a cool experience for you guys if he is into that sort of thing.

I wouldn't spend time thinking about a swap unless you know something terrible is wrong with the motor.
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I have never worked on this type engine although I have worked on engines for many years. I drag race and build my engines but they are small block engines. I am sure that I can change the belt. The engine has 211,000 miles on it. I know the owner took good care of it, so what I am hearing is to change the belt and water pump and drive it. The car does produce blue smoke when running but it sounds ok. How long will these engines run if they are maintained. He is planning to help me on the project. How much oil will this motor use?
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^ replace water pump also + tensioners + maybe cam seals and valve cover seals

Prelude 2.2 VTi (1996 – 2001) H22A Oil capacity 4,8 l, change every 10000 km / 12 months

you can also download cars manual from internet. EVERYTHING is there.
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some h22 / h23 burn no oil or some burn a decent amount you just need to monitor the dip stick a little more often then some other cars
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thanks. where online can I get the manual that you were referring to?
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^ for example check DIY section

or google it by yourself - it should be 1350+ pages (~176 mb)
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