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A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

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I am just curious about the experience you have had with the jump from a 4th to a 5th gen Prelude. I owned a 93 Si about 5 years ago while I was in high school and fell in love with the car until the engine locked on me. (Still have it with hopes of repairing it this winter) Now though, I am a getting close to finishing with college and I am a few days away from test driving an unmolested 99 base and if all goes well will be leaving with it.

I guess the real question is in your experience are they a better car and do they feel the same to drive. I have read the buying guide sticky and know what I will be looking for and I know that we all experience things differently. Just want to know what I will be getting into for the most part.

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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

The 4th handles better on the country roads. But the 5th is more of a luxury hot rod. You'll love it.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

I think they both ride pretty similiar compared to each other. The suspension is pretty close to the same minus some things. I would go 5th gen over a 4th but I think its really just preference. I wouldn't call one better then the other but a well maintained car speaks for itself regardless of the age.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

The two cars are effectively identical in size. The 5th gen is about 200 lbs heavier. Unless you have an ATTS-equipped car, there's really no difference in handling -- I've driven both, and really couldn't tell a difference at speed. The biggest difference you'll notice going from a 4th gen Si to a 5th gen is you have about 40 more horsepower up in the top part of the rev band due to the VTEC engine, and there's a distinct kick as the engine shifts cam lobes. Find a 4th gen VTEC, and that difference goes away -- the 4th gens had 10 less horsepower due to an exhaust restriction, but between the lighter weight and the fact that it's all up on the top of the rev band, you can't feel it. The only other significant difference I can think of is in the power steering -- on an autocross course, it's possible to get ahead of the 5th gen's power steering, which is a bit annoying as the steering effort changes in the middle of a turn. It's not something you're going to run into in regular driving, though.

Bottom line: all other things being equal, there's really no difference. It really comes down to which car do you like better layout and styling-wise.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

It's good to hear they are similar. I liked the 4th and it's styling and feel but always felt that the 5th gen was a better looking car. Regardless after this winter if everything goes well I will have my old one running again and I will be checking out the 5th in the next week. The 40 extra horse power should counter act the extra weight so I'm not worried on that. No matter what it will be better than my Tiburon I have now.

As a rookie question are there anythings to watch for while searching the car over. I already have a list of maintenance for the car since it was new which I am fairly trusting of over the meticulousness of it but just common issues to be aware of and test while driving.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

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It's good to hear they are similar. I liked the 4th and it's styling and feel but always felt that the 5th gen was a better looking car. Regardless after this winter if everything goes well I will have my old one running again and I will be checking out the 5th in the next week. The 40 extra horse power should counter act the extra weight so I'm not worried on that. No matter what it will be better than my Tiburon I have now.

As a rookie question are there anythings to watch for while searching the car over. I already have a list of maintenance for the car since it was new which I am fairly trusting of over the meticulousness of it but just common issues to be aware of and test while driving.

I went from a Tiburon to a SH Prelude. BEST DECISION EVER!!!!! Tiburon is garbage, barley 180 HP from their V6 SMH... find one that has the least amount of owners as possible and as close to stock as possible. It just makes finding issues easier if you don't have a ****ty car to start with
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

The one I'm looking at is a base with 2 prior owners, 120kish miles, gonna need a timing belt sooner than later, last recorded timing belt was at 55k so I'm going to expect that if it isnt in the service records he sent me that what's next.
Aside from that things I'm upgrading to are back to power steering, no rust, no peeling paint ( few bumper scrapes) still need to check suspension, clutch, and check for any leaks and all that but we'll see if there is anything that makes me walk.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

Definitely have the timing belt done. If for no other reason time-wise. That should include a new water pump while it's apart.

The o-ring around the distributor flattens in time and lets oil past it. Hardest part there is making sure you don't rotate the distributor 180 before reassembly. Just mark it to be sure how it came out.
And always use a crush washer when doing oil changes. Some times the o-ring between the block and the oil cooler housing will leak. It's a deal where coolant passes through near the oil filter and is an easy fix.

Rust develops on these cars along the rear wheel wells, and sometimes at the bottom of the doors.

The biggest issue imo is the EGR system allows soot build up. Very common for most cars that age, but something to watch for as the VTEC engine errs on the side of a rich fuel mixture. Nothing dreadful, but something to be aware of when you see soot at the output of your exhaust pipe.

Lastly the trim along the door windows will peel at some point.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

Thank you for that bud! First step is just getting it to be a reliable daily. I will be changing the timing belt with in the first 5k miles or so as soon as I find a thread that lists which brand parts to use. (If there is a brand that makes a better than oem quality part I will use it), switching to a manual tensioner because not taking a risk on a car I have wanted for so long, checking the wheel wells for interior rust (outside is very clean but that doesn't mean anything) and under coating the wheel wells at a minimum.

Aside from that it's gonna stay stock until something goes bad. No ram air intake, not going to drop it unless the shocks go bad and if then it would be a tiny amount. I don't plan on go fun bits unless I can retain the stock reliability of the car or improving reliability of the car.

Any other suggestions or links to other posts about increasing the longevity of the car would be much appricated. I have looked at the 5th Gen buying guide and a majority of the 5th Gen resource guide so if there is a link in those to research extensively just point me to which one if I haven't read it.

Also if I have hijacked my own thread and broke to far away from what the original post was about and should just make a new one with the same questions I will do so. Thanks in advance.
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Re: A question for those who went from a fourth to fifth gen

Yer good bro. It's your thread. Keep it 90% Prelude and you're going to be fine. My "how-do-ya-do" introductory thread was like 19 pages or something. One guy (Ferdie) uses his for chronicling his EPIC build.

OEM parts are the way to go timing belt and water pump wise.
A good source is 'hondapartsnow.com'.

Don't rule out your local junkyard for some things. At HPN you can type in a part number and it'll populate what Hondas used that part.

Don't know if the links still work but in the diy section a thread dedicated to service manuals has the ones Honda uses.

Maybe if you decide to document your progress, tell a few stories about it share some photos the "members rides" section would be a great place.
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