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i have a 1998 Honda Prelude. Recently its been having some starting problems,[ turn key no noise ] i tested my starter and its good. now i believe i found out what the culprit is.
I looked up the online manual and found out where the starter wire runs from and where its located.


well it isnt connected to anything so my buddy helped me rig up a new wire to bypass this problem

but now im ready to fix it, i saved up money and now i have time to dedicate to her.Has anyone else had this problem? is it an easy fix for a noob or should i get bent over at a shop? and one more thing before i found out what wire wasnt connected right, it would still start once in a blue moon, how is this possible? is it the ignition switch? or am i going after the wrong problem.. any help will be greatly appreciate.

ps- when i try starting it there isnt any noise, it either starts up or it doesnt, when it doesnt i just turn the key 1000 times untill it does start. when my buddy installed our bypass wire connected to a button near the driver side of the car, i would have to turn the key and click the button at the same time to turn the car on, the button would power the starter. After a while the button trick doesnt work anymore. When i push the button no noise happens indicating that the starter is being powered, so my first guess was that i broke my starter some how. when it didnt start i would get someone to turn the key while i used rubber handled needle nose pliers to touch both bolts on the starter creating a circuit and bam sparks, power, the whole 9 yards. so ATM i carry around those pliers in case she decides not to start one day. i use her strictly for work ATM and thats it.
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Re: white/black starter wire snapped

i apologize the starter wire is black/white colored..
the wire in the pick is white/black, i dont believe this is the problem, but still... should it just be hanging there like that?
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Re: white/black starter wire snapped

Take it to a shop. Have them 'diagnose' the problem. They'll use a voltmeter and test out things. If your rigging buddy is handy with one have at it.

But for about $75 a shop will tell you what is really going on and you can decide to diy or pay the mechanic.

Everybody acts like going to a shop is such a bad thing. Just ask around and you'll know which ones are cool and which ones to avoid.
Everybody should know how to pick a shop sooner or later, because at some point you'll need one. It boils down to the annual inspection if nothing else.

Even the experts go see a mechanic once in a while...
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Everybody acts like going to a shop is such a bad thing. Just ask around and you'll know which ones are cool and which ones to avoid.
Everybody should know how to pick a shop sooner or later, because at some point you'll need one. It boils down to the annual inspection if nothing else.

Even the experts go see a mechanic once in a while...
i was debating on bringing it to a shop, its just i wanted to find out as much as i could about the problem, so there would be less theyd charge me for ya know.
thanks for the feedback, seems like your the only person active on here sometimes. any way ill be back with an update incase anyone else has this problem
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Re: white/black starter wire snapped

I used to think the worse the problem the more they charged as if finding the issue was like being in a cab...charging by the minute. Some places may still do that.

But a diagnose fee is just that..a fee to diagnose. Example: my sons accord up n quit one day on the interstate. He called AAA and got it towed to the shop he gets inspection done at. This was a Sunday.
Monday I get a call from the shop that they have the car, but wonder why. My son gave them my number on the note he put in the key drop I guess. I had my son call the guy to describe what happened. He had no code flashing cel.
By now in my mind we're up to $100...meter still running. The guy could not get the car to start. He had replaced a cracked dizzy cap and the rotor.
Days go by. He tested, he swapped parts, he did all kinds of stuff trying to get the car to start.
Each day I'm calling the guy thinking 'oh Heavens it's up to a grand by now' and the guy keeps saying we'll charge you the diagnose fee plus the price of whatever part fixes the problem.
Dude calls thursday and says he thinks he's gonna take to another shop. An electrical expert.
So I asked if he had re-set the ecu. He says "oh yeah, we always do that"..an hour later he calls back and says "car started".. so I'm thinking holy cow man this is gonna be $1800000...so I say how much and he says $35...and if you want us to install the new cap and rotor add $50..or we'll take them off and you can diy. I sent my son up there with a $100 bill and had him tip the guy the $15 change.


So the no code thing..that incident where the cel flashed, tach dropped to 0 and no code was stored was apparently happening or had to a number of folks and nobody could figure out why. It seemed folks were swapping out parts left n right to no avail.
I spent hours and hours searching internet pages trying to figure out why my sons car would not run. The whole time thinking if I find the answer my son can get his car back sooner and the bill won't be as bad.
PZ kept popping up. Helpful chaps it seemed.
My other son had a 91 prelude that plagued him at times. Again, pz kept popping up. Other sites did too. But there was much drama and little fixing broken stuff going on at those. A couple of years later I acquired a prelude and soon after joined this site. After a while of blabbering to anyone about anything (due to the pure stoke of owning a prelude) I kinda settled into a role of one of those helpful chaps here at PZ.
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Re: white/black starter wire snapped

shops have soooo many programs that allow them to utilize their time very well. They'll get a diagram c what wires go where find the break rewire and you'll b out 50$. At our shop at least. Although for the record there is a positive wire coming directly from the battery post. The starter grounds itself on the engine block so their is no actual ground wire. The only other wire going to the starter is a 5v reference coming from the ignition and goes the solenoid. As said it's only 5volts so jumping the 12volt terminal to it will ruin your solenoid after so many times so I would assume a new starter is in need.
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Re: white/black starter wire snapped

^^ see?
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Re: white/black starter wire snapped

I've had some slight starter trouble recently too. It's only happened 3 times over the last month or so, but i'll turn my key a thousand time, and only here a click, then it starts out of nowhere. I think my problem lies where the 5V wire goes into the starter solenoid. I'm having difficulties getting in there to actually check out the problem, though.
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