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Old 03-05-2015, 08:02 AM
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Best Cheap Exhaust Solution

Hey guys, how've ya been?

I'm in a bit of a pickle. Money is low and my 01 Prelude SH is falling apart faster than I can glue it back together.

Couple weeks ago, it failed inspection for the cat (the o2 spacer was no longer working, it shoved the o2 sensor back into the underbody, crushing the wires and causing a short - I don't recommend doing it)

So we put on a new cat, and new o2 sensors. But while we were under there, we noticed that the exhaust was also broken in like 3 places. (I knew it had a bit of a leak, but damn). So we fixed the broken spots with piping and exhaust clamps, as a temporary fix, just to give me time to get it through inspection.

However, a week later the exhaust broke again, this time in the flex piping after the header. I jerry rigged that with an exhaust clamp, but was going to buy a new section of flex and weld it in this weekend. Which leads us to this morning...

There's a huge snowstorm up here, and as I pulled into the gas station I noticed a dragging/banging from under the car. Looked under it and the exhaust clamp we put on right before the muffler came loose. ****. So I called out of work and tried to limp it back to my house.

When I got to my house, I looked under it again. My entire freakin' muffler is gone. It was there at the gas station, now it's gone. Didn't feel/hear anything on the way back. So now I'm going back out to try and locate my muffler, but it's definitely time for a new exhaust.


So...I need a relatively cheap exhaust solution, like a catback. It doesn't have to be performance or anything, just something decent. Any suggestions?

I'm open to any solutions, but I don't have the time or resources to be bending/welding exhaust parts in myself.


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*EDIT: Found my muffler on the side of the road
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Re: Best Cheap Exhaust Solution

Check out k-teller.com. One of the k-teller kits or perhaps a magna-flow.
For the time being put on a parts store Walker muffler to the k-teller and when you get the funds upgrade to a Vibrant or whatever.

Only thing with k teller is the hangers have to be welded on..that ensures a perfect fit instead of those that come pre-attached.(read pitb to install in many cases due to misalignment)
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Local parts store and buy a factory replacement cheap walker exhaust. It will last a couple years but thats about it
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Re: Best Cheap Exhaust Solution

The K-teller site isn't working on the page that has the exhaust tubing...dunno why. But it looks just like plain pipe, with no flanges or anything. I don't have time to be fabricating an exhaust system.

I can't find any Walker systems on the Advanced Auto web site, but their search function is usually terrible, so I'll have to go in and ask. The only MagnaFlow catback I found on their site is listed for $1,200...I could just buy a Megan or Skunk2 cat back for half that. Must be some kind of error.


Wait... is there a flange between the end of the resonator piping and the beginning of the muffler piping? I don't think so... so how is that normally attached?


(Honestly at this point I'm considering selling this thing and buying something more reliable. Hell, the money it's costing me in oil alone probably makes it worth it...thing is leaking out of almost every gasket it has. But, I need to at least get the exhaust fixed enough to get a clean inspection before selling it)
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Re: Best Cheap Exhaust Solution

The flanges are as follows;

downpipe to catalytic converter
catalytic converter to mid section (resonated length)
mid section to muffler


Walker is just a cheap off the shelf brand, you should be able to get it nearly anywhere. Being you're in Jersey, I know that auto plus and some other parts stores carry them.

The oil seals are all easy to fix, minus the rear main and valve stem seals. Clean the engine off, locate a leak and fix them one by one.
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The flanges are as follows;

downpipe to catalytic converter
catalytic converter to mid section (resonated length)
mid section to muffler
Hmm. Well my exhaust doesn't have a flange between the muffler and the mid section with the resonator. Maybe it rotted through and we cut it off, I don't really remember.

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The oil seals are all easy to fix, minus the rear main and valve stem seals. Clean the engine off, locate a leak and fix them one by one.
I'm aware that they aren't difficult to fix, but that depends on who you're talking to. I haven't gotten my hands dirty under the hood in quite awhile, so I wouldn't be able to do it quickly. This is my daily driver, I can't afford downtime. And even if I could, I don't have the space, equipment, tools, time or will to do it.

That aside, I'm not putting anymore money, time or effort into a 15 year old car that needs a complete engine rebuild, major bodywork, new tires, and several other expensive parts. It's just not worth it, not when the cost of fixing this one could buy me half (or more) of a brand new car.

I'm not looking to make this car mint. I'm looking to keep it on the road long enough to sell it.
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the prelude is not strong with this one
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go to the wreckers with some cash and pull what you need.

assuming you find one that is not rusted or in pieces.
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the prelude is not strong with this one

Or we're smart enough to know when to cut our losses and to stop literally flushing money down the toilet, but whatever.
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Or we're smart enough to know when to cut our losses and to stop literally flushing money down the toilet, but whatever.



But yet some just can't stay away long enough.
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But yet some just can't stay away long enough.


.......someone said I was trying to?
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go to the wreckers with some cash and pull what you need.

assuming you find one that is not rusted or in pieces.
Goodluck.
I honestly didn't think of that, I'll call around tomorrow. But...I'm not holding my breath. When I was in Ohio we were living near one of the largest pick 'n' pulls in the state. I called that place and nearly a dozen others, not a single 5th gen to be found. It's kinda awesome that even as trashed as my car is, people still come up to me and comment on it, it's a pretty unique car. Unfortunately, I've found out that it makes it a much bigger pain in the ass when you gotta find parts for it.

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Or we're smart enough to know when to cut our losses and to stop literally flushing money down the toilet, but whatever.
Pretty much. I loved my prelude, even though this thing has given me a hard time ever since I've owned it. But in the last year/year and a half, the hood completely rusted over since it's not a factory hood, both rear wheel wells have almost completely rotted out, the engine has sprung two leaks for every one that I fixed, the piston rings are so shot the guys at work call it "the mosquito killer" on account of the fog of blue smoke that comes out the pipes everytime I accelerate from a traffic light, and now my exhaust is literally (not figuratively) falling apart. The only system in this car that doesn't need major repair/complete overhaul is the transmission. Never did get that 5th gear grind on upshift.

So ya, at this point the car would pretty much need to be completely restored, from the ground up. Might as well just build a car from scratch for all the work and money I'd need to put into it...and I just can't do it. I don't have the money, the time, the tools or even the space to do it.

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The junkyard i typically get parts from just crushed a 5th gen. Had the exhaust still too.

There is a yard an hour north of edison that pulls parts for you, reasonably priced however I'm not sure where exactly you're located to make it worth the trip. Worth a shot, i'll grab the name from my car tomorrow. There's also shortys in philly and another one i can't think of in NJ
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I've looked up the parts...since the flange between the muffler piping and the resonator piping was completely rotted, we cut off both flanges. So there's no flange there anymore.

Getting a new OE style muffler and resonator section would cost about $350 from a maker called Bosal...or Bosen, or something.

So I'm going to try just buying a length of pipe, bring the car into work tomorrow, and welding it back together. It's a bigger PITA, and I had to beg my boss to let me do it, but it's practically free.

However, that doesn't solve the problem with the break I have in the flex pipe section of my downpipe. I have an aftermarket header, and I don't think I can get a replacement flex pipe piece by itself. So I might need to buy a new eBay header.

But I'm gonna measure mine and see if the auto parts guy can't get just the flex pipe section, so I can cut it out and weld the new one in.
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not sure if it's close enough but i heard ohio
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UPDATE: Bought some pieces of pipe, took the car into my shop today and welded it all up. Problem solved.

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Unsure if you fixed the flex issue or not - but you can purchase lengths of flex from vibrant/summit/etc
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