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Power Locks and Window

Hey Everyone,

I skimmed through a few threads concerning this topic but couldn't find any cases where the power window was giving issues as well. My issue is that the power locks on the driver side is not working. When I hit the lever, no sounds are made at all. Obviously manually locking the door works just fine. The passenger side power lock lever DOES lock BOTH driver and passenger doors. Secondly, the power window module on the driver's side works for the driver's side ONLY. The switch for the passenger side on the driver's side module does NOT work as it does not make any sounds are move the passenger side window. The passenger power window switch works as it should. Sorry for the capital letters I just wanted to be exact lol.

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Re: Power Locks and Window

Uh oh...sounds like broken wires in the connection between the door harness at the hinge point.

Fixable...but not your typical idea of a good time.
BRB with some pix from a repair...


^^ weather resistant cover


^^ the connection

Open the driver side door. You'll see a rubber wire loom. It covers the connector and harness in a weather resistant conduit.

Remove the screw holding the center slider of the door to the car. (12mm?)


^^ and prop the door open.

Grab a stool because you will be in a tight crevice for a while. May as well be comfy as possible.

Using a dental pick remove the weather resistant rubber cover. It has green 'tits' to keep it fastened front (side you see) and back. Once you figure out how to 'peel' the cover off the tits on the front side do same for back side.

Now the cover likes it position. So you'll have to roll it over, like rolling up a shirt sleeve. Then you press down on the top tab of the connector, while pulling on the right half of the connector. You may have to coax it started with your dental pick.

^^ you'll see this.
Hopefully not exactly though....

Sometimes the fine folks at Tyco (who made up the harnesses for your car) over pinched the pin holding the wire. Sometimes they break near the pin (if you're lucky)...but at times they break at the pin.


^^ another view.
Mine were broken inside the pins.
If you see what I saw when I pulled mine apart, you can go to preludecentral.com and see a how to on the repair.

Now you can simply drill out the pins on both sides (male and female) of the connector, splice a wire to the half at the fender side, shove it through the holes you made, then splice or quick connect it inside the door. But if you ever have to remove the door you'd have to cut those wires to get the harness free.


^^ the other side

It is held in place by some 'tits' on the outside of the door. Dental pick will pop those free.


^^ the connector and what's what wire-wise.
This is the view from the fender side of the connector.


An alternative to rebuilding your connector, but still being able to free the harness from the door as well as having a factory look and still have weather resistance...it was my Plan B. You still have the weather resistant cover, connector still snaps together...I kinda regret not doing that. But I was told rebuilding it to factory couldn't be done. I did it anyway.


^^ a pair of 8 pin connectors in the door.
If you have a Type SH or heated seats, folding mirrors etc it'll take 3 connectors.


^^ drill out the door side.
All pins removed.


^^ fender side (female) connector disconnected.

You build a pigtail on the fender side about 18" long using the 2-3 connectors. Shove each through the hole you made in the oem connector.
Then simply fasten those to wires inside the door. Need to remove the door someday? You just disconnect the stuff inside the door, then go about things like you would have before the wire repair.


^^ what the how to at prelude central is about.
Gives part numbers, tools, and methods.
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Mine started out as a speaker quit. Then the power lock did like yours. I thought my driver door courtesy light bulb was out and speakers fail...and that Honda had the driver side lock switch do the passenger side only as a no lock keys in car thing.
My mirror on the passenger side would move side to side, not up n down. Then it quit the side to side. I bought replacement parts either new or from a junkyard car. Putting in new parts changed nothing...yet like yours, all worked on the passenger side. So I hooked non working driver side parts to the passengger side and show-nuf, they worked. Huh?

Then I read or heard (I forget) that sometimes the wires break at the door of either side..

I went from there.

Now...if you rebuild it, think about not rewiring the power lock wire for the driver side door. I accidently locked my doors twice with the car running...away from home...
and thankfully the windows down or sunroof open...

Mine started out with 3 wires broken and 2 breaking. While cleaning out all the die-electric grease those and 3 others broke. When I got up to 10 broken while trying to fix it in car, I cut off the connector, took it indoors and removed all the pins.

I found Honda TSB-00-099 very useful. It's a how to replace pins due to some Acura issues that used to happen.
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Re: Power Locks and Window

Thanks for all the help bykfixer. This seems like a lot of tedious work as I am not well acquainted with electrical work. I will have to attempt it when I have the time and determination. Thanks again for the detailed guide!
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Hope it turns out not to be broken wires, but just loose something or other...
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