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I just got a '97 automatic 'Lude (spare me the drama, i know what everyone says about them), and i want to change the transmission fluid ASAP, but i have questions.


When i was car hunting, i was looking at a '99 Accord, and while doing research i found that the consensus on their forum was to only use Honda's ATF because of how fragile Honda transmissions are.

However, i recently found this article (link below), claiming that it's better to transition to a synthetic transmission fluid, as well as doing a drain-and-fill for both the tranny, AND torque converter (does the '97 base even have a torque converter?). It also suggests power-flushing the cooler lines.

Our Top Tip to Extend the Life of the M6HA Transmission in Your Honda Accord

Can anyone back up this information? I know my tranny is doomed, but i really want to try to make it last as long as i possibly can.
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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

How many miles does you odo read?
Whats the current condition of your transmission?(sounds, clunks, leaks?)
What does your current fluid color look like?
Can you notice any metal flakes or chips?

If its black i would be very cautious to changing it depending on how many miles your engine/transmission has since last service.
By changing the oil, it could cause serious catastrophic failures, proceed with caution and deep pockets.(i would recommend not rebuilding transmissions even with warranty)
The old oil has retained small clearances you could say, that when removed, the new oil cannot fill.. this will just upset the function of the transmission more I believe.

I do know that the Accord of that year is similar in ways to our prelude. Most Honda`s for a fact are very similar to one another. but it will vary of-course.
The procedure listed in your link i`m sure can be done to your prelude. read into the service manual for your transmission type to gain insight.
I can not confirm this procedure though, I am sorry.

These tips on how to extend your tranny are for maintaining from future failure. If you are feeling the effects now, its too late i would imagine the life expectancy is low. ):

You might have no choice but to change the oil, only use Honda transmission fluid, nothing else ever if you need to add or replace.
(what i`ve been taught and what you already knew though)
Maybe somebody can shed light on using other fluids.

Best of luck sir, I hope you can resolve this as painlessly as possible.
I unfortunately have zero experience with the auto, I know they tend to go sour after 100k-120k original miles, sooner the harder people drive them or if they have over heated.
and used car lots try to sell them to people who have no clue what they are getting themselves into.
I know very little about transmissions, i hope somebody here can help you out further.

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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

Well it still feels pretty good. Has 145k original miles on it, and i took it to a reputable transmission shop in town for an tranny-fluid change, and basic servicing. I had to go for the cheaper option cause i'm broke, but i'm changing my transmission oil filter soon too. I don't use the tiptronics at all, and everything about the car feels fine.
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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

i say DONT DO IT...go to a Honda dealer and get Honda ATF...its true...honda prelude auto transmission is crappy...at least for the 5th gen...i used non Honda ATF on my 01 base lude and it broke...ended up swapping to manual.
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Well it still feels pretty good. Has 145k original miles on it, and i took it to a reputable transmission shop in town for an tranny-fluid change, and basic servicing. I had to go for the cheaper option cause i'm broke, but i'm changing my transmission oil filter soon too. I don't use the tiptronics at all, and everything about the car feels fine.
I use Honda ATF in mine.

Don't flush the system, just do 3 "drain and fills" all within 300-400 miles of each other, maybe less. This will get rid of 80% of the old fluid or more.

Transmission filter, thats going to cost $$$, it's internal, I believe the tranny would have to be dropped in-order for it to be changed.
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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

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I use Honda ATF in mine.

Don't flush the system, just do 3 "drain and fills" all within 300-400 miles of each other, maybe less. This will get rid of 80% of the old fluid or more.

Transmission filter, thats going to cost $$$, it's internal, I believe the tranny would have to be dropped in-order for it to be changed.

Damn. My girlfriend was able to get her transmission filter changed on her Celica for $75 from her family's mechanic, when it costed $200 to just do a fluid change from our city's best transmission shop. It cost me about $150 to get my transmission serviced (which included a drain-and-fill) by them.

I understand Toyotas and Hondas are very different platforms and whatnot, but how much worse can it really be?
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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

The filter is way down deep inside the transmission...not external like most.

So when you remove the pan and drain the oil you are only draining a portion of it.

That's why blacklud said what he said.

Sorry blacklud, didn't mean to step on your statement, just add to it.
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Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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Damn. My girlfriend was able to get her transmission filter changed on her Celica for $75 from her family's mechanic, when it costed $200 to just do a fluid change from our city's best transmission shop. It cost me about $150 to get my transmission serviced (which included a drain-and-fill) by them.

I understand Toyotas and Hondas are very different platforms and whatnot, but how much worse can it really be?
I'm guessing that in order to change the filter it will be atleast $300-500, the tranny will have to be dropped.

Celica's must have an inline external filter, those are much easier to change. Many newer Honda vehicles nowadays have servicable external filters unlike our Preludes that have the filter inside the transmission, should a stupid design, what was Honda thinking when they did that.

How many "drain and fills" did you get for $150?
Does the invoice state how much fluid you were charged for?
What else did they do?

Here in Canada Honda OEM tranny fluid costs $10-11 per Litre, each "drain and fill" requires 2.5Litre's of fluid.

No problem bykfixer, hey look what I found!!


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Re: Transmission Fluid questions. Can anyone confirm this article i found?

Aaaaaaaaye!

You're either a fan of TV Land or like me, know what geritol is...'cause yer old
(As compared to the majority here)

If you tuned in each week, you may remember how many phrases we typically use to this day that came from that show...
"Mr C", used to name grown ups like Mrs G etc.
"that sucks", came from 'suck an egg'.
"that's cool", fonzy and his thumb up or down..
Plenty of others, but...I'm all forgetful these days. I'm sure we use Pottsy or Joanie phrases too, but just don't realize it.


Many think correcta-mundo came from pulp fiction...

Oops....
I've read and heard of shops rebuilding the auto tragic w/o the internal filter and placing it outside the case. Because: Accord.
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