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Atts damage issue

I have a 97 prelude SH.I recently hit a pothole which caused little damage to the bottom frame.after damage occurred the car seems to run fine except for a noise coming from what I think the ATT S unit. It sounds like a metal on metal scraping/slapping sound. I only hear the sound after the car is been idling for 30 minutes or driven for 15 minutes. When sound occurs it is faint and then becomes noticeable. I think this is because of the transmission fluid displacement overtime, which makes the sound more prominent. I am an amateur mechanic and I have not yet let a certified mechanic look at this problem yet but I'm pretty sure the sound is coming from the ATTS unit. My questions are what are my risks if I keep driving on this issue? And how much would it cost to fix this problem if taken to mechanic?
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Re: Atts damage issue

Ok, this is going to sound harsh. Not meant to be. Just some insight to help you achieve your goal.

You strive to be a mechanic. A certified mechanic. Well you have to be a mechanic to become a sure enough bonified mechanic regardless of some peice of paper that says you passed some test. Ok? Nearly any bail-jumper or dope smoker can pass a test.

I say this so that you can hopefully understand that taking your car to a real bonified, sure enough, good mechanic is not a bad thing.
I know lots of certified mechanics who don't know jack about fixing cars, trucks or anything else except to guess, follow some book, waste lots of time and charge the customer lots of money. Many times not solving the problem.
Too much emphesis these days on certified this and educated that.

Your situation is ripe for teaching you how to become a sure enough good mechanic and not just another part changer who passed a test. Somehow you need to find a mechanic you can trust and learn from. Many times it's the grumpiest guy in the shop. Not the red faced hung over grumpy guy. But the one who rarely talks to people. Many times that's the one who's brain is focused on gears, cogs and hydraulics instead of being all pals with those around him. Find somebody like that to feed off of. Some of the best mechanics I know are usually the guy who passes by the crowd in the morning without as much as a grunt, much less a good morning....
Someone like a school bus mechanic. Or a person who works on cars, trucks, tractors and aircraft. A guy or gal in their 40's or older who grew up around motors that didn't have computers, but understands a tug on a wire here, a tap with a hammer there got ole Jinny going again.

You've already got half the problem solved by learning the details of your symptoms. A computer didn't do that, and a book didn't tell you that. You figured that out. Good start. So don't be ashamed of asking for help. Afterall the good mechanics had to learn at some point.
By good mechanic I mean somebody who knows how to diagnose a problem and then set about fixing it. His certification is just another tool in his tool set. You just need to learn a procedure to determine how to duplicate your situation with the car standing still. And then what happened when you hit that pothole (musta been some pothole), what was damaged, and then figure out how to correct it.

To say how much it'll cost is not practical from a computer. Could be a dust shield rubbing your brakes, could be you harmed your inner knuckle or broke loose a couple of atts mounting bolts and things are out of alignment. Could be coincidently you are low on the tranny fluid. Could be a cat is hung up in there...
But I'll say this. Once you figure out what it is, your confidence boost will propel you places you never thought you'd end up.
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Re: Atts damage issue

30 years ago the guy who didn't so much as grunt told me to sell my tools. Harsh words I took to heart back then. Another man said we can't know everything, the trick is to admit what you don't know and find those who do. Wise words I also took to heart.
I restored a couple of cars back then but much of the work was done by others.
See when we're young we have trouble with admitting we don't know stuff. So we tend to come off as know nothings who think they do. I just paid people to fix my problems. Better than screwing it up I thought.

Fast forward some decades. I now see my ignorance as a challenge and try to pass on my knowledge where possible. Much time is spent getting the youngster comfortable with themselves and their ignorance.

In 2012 I set out to restore a beat up, high mileage 97 SH. My son was still learning how to change his oil. A year into the project he advised me my atts was replaced with a 4th gen tranny. Tells ya how ignorant I still was.
This year he obtained an 01 with a broken motor. We both set out to swap in an H23. We needed help. A couple of grouchy pz members assisted in many ways and we figured out the rest. The pz members are some of the best there is at this sort of thing. Genuine nice guys disguised as frumps.
In the end my son and I did a better job than most shops full of certified techs would have done and there aint a certification amonst us. An ac guy, an electrician, a store manager and a road inspector figured out the how to's when things were not going as they were supposed to and actually improved on some things vs what most so called mechanics would have slapped together. My son teaches me the electronics and gadgets part, while I teach him how to a turn a bolt that seemingly no wrench can get to. Between us we're going behind some slip-shod part changers on both our cars by diagnosing, then repairing. His car was previously hopped up and modified by some rip off shops and mine was reassembled by somebody who seemingly should have to sell their tools.

I gave away those tools 20 years ago. But I have better tools today. Experience and a small box full of Pittsburgs is way more useful than the biggest packed macsimieser owned by an ase certified fool.
I'm no mechanic by any means. But when I do take my vehicle in for repairs the mechanic shakes his head and says "awe shux, this is gonna be a hard one if you're bringing it to a shop." I smile and tell 'em I'm just here for an annual inspection.
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Pretty much got flamed for driving like a jackass and was told to slow down. And I'll be damned, slowing down fixed it.

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