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Recently iv'e been washing my car like crazy, full detail, inside and out,wax. Its hard to keep it clean when ever it sits in the elements. the other day there was a pretty bad storm, like right after i cleaned it, after the storm was over there was what looked like to be mud, that had dried on my car. i didnt think anything of it untill last night when i went back to the car wash and the spots wouldnt come off. this literally happened in one day. just my luck right?
i was wondering if anyone knew any way to fix the problem? i looked up some remedies and they were either temporary, or risky as hell. The water stains are on my hood, and the lid of my trunk, and a little on top of my car.
If it isnt able to be fixed, im just going to plastic dip over it.
Sorry i couldnt upload any pics of it, they are on my phone and i dont have time to upload it. any help will be appreciated.
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Re: stage II water spots

Try rubbing compound.
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First, what color is the car? You might wanna clay bar the car. Then take a polish to it and wax it last.
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I cant see the picture.
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Re: stage II water spots

Sorry it took so long to upload the pictures. i couldnt get them off my phone so i had to bring my computer outside and take them..
I do have some compound im going to try but its in my brothers barn that he locked so i have to wait, is there any cause for this to happen? it literally popped up in a day.
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Re: stage II water spots

Dirty rain. Seriously.

My car usually looks dirty after it rains. Can't say the spots get stuck though...

Hate to say it, but that looks like it could be the beginning of clear coat fail.
I had a red car that looked pink when I bought it.
Clay bar, industrial compound, expensive polish, wax and 40 hours later it looked worse

A freind reccomended a product called TR3.
One of those too good to be true polishes you wipe on and wipe off for $10? Yep.
Did it work? You betcha.

Before


During


After


8 months later


A year and another owner later...

If all else fails go to pep boys, grab a can and some cotton rags and have at it.
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Hate to say it, but that looks like it could be the beginning of clear coat fail.
Ill try the polish you recommended, quick question, take it easy on me if this is a stupid one, is it possible to not have a clear coat at all? i bought some expensive was a while back but when i put it on my lude it looked horrible, i figured it just wasnt the right kind for my color, or i was doing it wrong but my brother said my car doesnt have a clear coat and that wax wouldnt work.
I pretty much walk in my brother's foot steps when it comes to cars, other than this forum, i have no one else.
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Re: stage II water spots

All modern cars start out with clear coat. When I began my project my thought was "man I hope Honda didn't clear coat until '92'...my car was a 91. Sorry, they started in the 70's. So unless your car was repainted and they skimped on cost, you have a clear coat

But...when not taken care of (probably in your case by a previous owner) a bond between the original coating and the clear coat begins to break. Sometimes it happens even though it was taken care of.

It was about a 90 day adventure to achieve the look that red car had. Researching included hours and hours of looking for good waxes, good methods, and good ways to stop the already begun clear coat fail. Hours at night reading until my eyes watered, and hours scrubbing and polishing until my fingers cramped. All for what seemed like nothing. It just looked bad no matter how much I tried.
It was far from beautiful in real life. But I was dang sure proud of it when done. My buddy smakdade told me about TR3 he'd used on his wife's car. I never believed in miracle polishes. But that guy knows his business so I thought wth... What a dif!!!

Here's some examples of possible causes


My $350 car cover caused this
It got dirty underneath, it quit breathing and after a rain I would see this spot getting worse each time I removed the cover.



^^ bird droppings
This area hasn't failed yet, but will. I left for work and the car was clean. Got home, removed the droppings and it had gotten into the clear coat.


^^ acorn damage.
Yes, little acorns from a willow oak tree dropping on the car broke the bond in a dozen or so places. That's why I bought the cover.

All could have been prevented by keeping a good layer of protectant on the finish. I did not protect it one summer...3-4 months and mother nature got in there and damaged a 16 year old finish.

In your case, use 3m rubbing compound for the initial scrub. A cordless drill will make that way easier. Compound it at least twice using gentle pressure. Then clay bar that surface until it's smooth. You'll feel where you did and didn't. Then apply the TR3 resin glaze. Yep, it's like a new layer of clear coat. Let it cure a couple days and redo it. Then apply some nice carnuba wax for max shine. Synthetic wax lasts longer. But carnuba shines better. Let that cure a couple days. Re-apply carnuba with the head of a buffer by hand. Too easy to melt the new layer of protectant using a machine imo.

Figure on re-waxing the car once about every 90 days. Then figure removing all of it once a year with compound and re-applying the TR3 and wax.
Between waxings use a car wash with wax. I like rain x car wash. Cheap, suds last and water beeds for 14-21 days on an unwaxed surface like your windows, tires etc.
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Re: stage II water spots

Looks like acid rain to me. need better pic to tell.
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Clay and polish will get you back to good.youtube clay bar videos.
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Re: stage II water spots

sorry for the long pause ive been busy, but now im back

I looked up the RX product mentioned earlier, but this product is only used for windows, luckily i dont have any on mine, i went back to youtube to find one for paint, and i did, by the same guys who make the RX for windows, i went back to their website to find out that its not there, idk if they are discontinuing it or not but they are sure as hell making it hard and sketchy to order it.
while i was researching this i also found a home remedy, distilled white vineger, the guy in the video acts like he knows what hes talking about and it sure did work for his water spots, but mine are a little more.. hard core looking.
I think i should try this before ordering something else but i have a fear that vineger will eat away at paint. does anyone have any experience with this?
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If your going to attempt to remove those spots, you'll be killing yourself using your hand, invest in a DA polisher, certain pads "cut" more then others.

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