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Broken Timing Belt

My car was fine one day then not fine the next.
I started my car and pulled forward a few feet so I didnt get a curb side ticket and shut it off. Didnt hear any sign of damage.
The next day I went to drive it and all I get is starter noise.
My friends dad is a mechanic and did a few tests, he eliminated the fuel pump, battery, and the spark as being the issue and he thinks its the timing belt.

Should I do a leak down test? Is it worth repairing?
Any help is appreciated, Im a car noob.
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Re: Broken Timing Belt

A belt wouldn't break while not being used.

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Re: Broken Timing Belt

Thank you.. Yes I have CEL light been like that for a year.
We've checked the battery, and bypassed the fuel pump. He put gas right in the spark plugs
He says its not the starter. You dont think I could have lost the belt pulling the car up the street a few feet?
What would you do next?? Thank you much
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im confused.. should I do the leakdown test next or odbII ? I think i did the odb over a year ago and it was an o2 sensor causing the cel light...
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Re: Broken Timing Belt

Possibly your ignition control module.

Try a squirt of starter fluid. If she tries to start and shuts off shortly after it's fuel delivery issue
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Possibly your ignition control module.

Try a squirt of starter fluid. If she tries to start and shuts off shortly after it's fuel delivery issue

im pretty sure we bypassed the fuel delivery system as I mention, my friends dad put gas right inside the spark plug chambers, and tried to start it, it didnt even try to turn over, just got starter noise. We tested the spark as well.. spark was ok.
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Re: Broken Timing Belt

I saw you mentioned "Starter Noise"... When you turn the key, and the starter makes the noise, do the accessory belts turn?
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I saw you mentioned "Starter Noise"... When you turn the key, and the starter makes the noise, do the accessory belts turn?
Pretty sure thats a no. I'll have to confirm
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I saw you mentioned "Starter Noise"... When you turn the key, and the starter makes the noise, do the accessory belts turn?
Pretty sure thats a no. I'll have to confirm
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Re: Broken Timing Belt

Well, if your Accessory pulleys (Alternator, A/C, Power Steering Pump, Etc.) aren't turning when you turn the key, but the starter is spinning, it sounds like you just may have a bad Starter Drive or solenoid. If that's the case, you may be able to just fix the starter if you can find replacement parts and have the skill, Otherwise, I know the major remanufacture parts Houses here in my area carry New and/or remanufactured starters, as does several Online parts places.
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Well, if your Accessory pulleys (Alternator, A/C, Power Steering Pump, Etc.) aren't turning when you turn the key, but the starter is spinning, it sounds like you just may have a bad Starter Drive or solenoid. If that's the case, you may be able to just fix the starter if you can find replacement parts and have the skill, Otherwise, I know the major remanufacture parts Houses here in my area carry New and/or remanufactured starters, as does several Online parts places.

But Im getting spark at the plugs, so could it still be the starter?
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If the engine is indeed cranking, one way to see if the timing belt is broken is to pull off the dist cap and crank the motor. If the distributor rotor does not move then the belt is broken. If the belt is broken then you will not have any bent valves because the engine was idling when it broke. When cranking the motor make sure the belts are turning if not then like a tonemeister69 mentioned it could be the starter or maybe bad or missing teeth on the flywheel so check that first.
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Re: Broken Timing Belt

One sure way to tell is to see if your accessory belts turn when you crank the car. This is what you do:

Crank the car, (Turn the key to Start and whether it fires up or not, the starter should spin and make noise) Have a friend look at the belts for you if you can't see them as you are cranking it.

If the visible accessory belts move when the starter is spinning and making noise, then the starter is good.

If the visible accessory belts DON'T move, but the starter is making noise, then the starter is bad.

Let us know what you see & find out.
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Thanks guys. So I just checked and the accessory belts are moving when I turn it over
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Re: Broken Timing Belt

Kool, the starter is working. Now, is the distributor turning? You can take the cap off and disconnect the coil wire from the cap and turn the key. If it is turning, then your timing belt ISN'T broken. It can still have skipped a tooth, but not broken.

I have a 3rd Gen Prelude so i'm unfamiliar how the timing belt is covered on the top, but it may be covered by the valve cover.

You should REALLY find one of the online sevice manuals on here and download it. Read it. Study it. You should be able to find the section on how to set the timing and replace a timing belt. Even if the belt isn't broken, you can use this procedure to make sure the crank and cams are lined up properly.

You should also read into the link that twokexlv6coupe posted. Here it is again:

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You should REALLY find one of the online sevice manuals on here and download it. Read it. Study it. You should be able to find the section on how to set the timing and replace a timing belt. Even if the belt isn't broken, you can use this procedure to make sure the crank and cams are lined up properly.
Ironically the service manual thread is in the...
(Drum roll....) Do It Yourself section. I know I know, it sounds crazy, but that's where it is.
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Ironically the service manual thread is in the...
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Which makes it ALL THE EASIER to find!

Thanks for sharing that info!
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But Im getting spark at the plugs, so could it still be the starter?
If your getting spark then your distributor is turning and theres no need to remove the cap check. Your timing belt has not broken but yes it could have skipped timing
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Sorry guys, Im at work camp.

I dont have the tools or time to fix it myself. I guess Ill have to find someone to look at the timing belt when I get back.

Thank you all for your help
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